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Ledger & Gyllenhaal to Play Gay Cowboys
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Wednesday, January 14, 2004


Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal are in talks to play gay cowboys in the next film from The Hulk director Ang Lee, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Brokeback Mountain revolves around two men who meet one summer in Wyoming and form a bond and love that spans 20 years. The film tracks that time period and their evolving relationship. The start date has yet to be determined.

The Focus Features project was adapted by Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana from a short story by The Shipping News screenwriter E. Annie Proulx.
 

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Now, if you play a gay character in a movie, TV show, or play...does that make you gay?
 

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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Now, if you play a gay character in a movie, TV show, or play...does that make you gay?

Yep!
 

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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Now, if you play a gay character in a movie, TV show, or play...does that make you gay?


Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
Yep!

Gee, tell that to Tom Hanks and Antonio Banderas.

And funny that you put that Seinfeld pic up, Mike. Jason Alexander played a gay man in a movie a few years ago. (I forgot the title)
 
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Originally posted by Chaplin
Jason Alexander played a gay man in a movie a few years ago. (I forgot the title)

Love! Valour! Compassion! (I never saw it but it got a lot of press).
 

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Originally posted by Chaplin
Gee, tell that to Tom Hanks and Antonio Banderas.

And funny that you put that Seinfeld pic up, Mike. Jason Alexander played a gay man in a movie a few years ago. (I forgot the title)

Gee, I was only kidding...

I swear you have about as much a sense of humor as my big toe
 
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That's funny--who's taking things seriously, Ryan? Certainly not me.

I guess I should have put a smiley down, since that's the only way you can tell sarcasm, cynicism, or humor.
 

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Originally posted by Chaplin
That's funny--who's taking things seriously, Ryan? Certainly not me.

I guess I should have put a smiley down, since that's the only way you can tell sarcasm, cynicism, or humor.

Sorry, but I am not the one who is continuously asked to "lighten up"....

So lighten up
 

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If his American films are any indication, Ang Lee is much better suited to drama than he is to action (I say this because while CTHD had some excellent action sequences, it was not an action movie per se while the Hulk should have been an action movie and instead tried to follow CTHD's format)

Homosexuality in Westerns? I'll stick with the undertones in Red River, thanks.
 

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Opens December 9th

Brokeback Mountain (Opens Dec. 9) -- Director Ang Lee's "gay western" about two men whose 20-year bond to each other proves stronger than either of their marriages. The movie won the Golden Lion (Best Picture) at the Venice Film Festival. It is based on a novella by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Annie Proulx, with a screenplay co-authored by Pulitzer-winner Larry McMurtry, and stars Jake Gyllenhall and Heath Ledger.
 

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Brokeback Mountain

Release Date: December 9, 2005 (NY, LA, SF; wider release: December 16)
Studio: Focus Features
Director: Ang Lee
Screenwriter: Larry McMurtry, Diana Ossana
Genre: Drama, Romance, Western
MPAA Rating: R (for sexuality, nudity, language and some violence)
Website: BrokebackMountain.com

Starring: Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Linda Cardellini, Anna Faris, Anne Hathaway, Michelle Williams, Randy Quaid

Plot Summary: From Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ang Lee comes an epic American love story, based on the short story by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Annie Proulx and adapted for the screen by the team of Pulitzer Prize-winning author Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana. Set against the sweeping vistas of Wyoming and Texas, the film tells the story of two young men – a ranch-hand and a rodeo cowboy – who meet in the summer of 1963, and unexpectedly forge a lifelong connection, one whose complications, joys and tragedies provide a testament to the endurance and power of love. Early one morning in Signal, Wyoming, Ennis del Mar (Heath Ledger) and Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal) meet while lining up for employment with local rancher Joe Aguirre (Randy Quaid). The world which Ennis and Jack have been born into is at once changing rapidly and yet scarcely evolving. Both young men seem certain of their set places in the heartland – obtaining steady work, marrying and raising a family – and yet hunger for something beyond what they can articulate. When Aguirre dispatches them to work as sheepherders up on the majestic Brokeback Mountain, they gravitate towards camaraderie and then a deeper intimacy. At summer's end, the two must come down from Brokeback and part ways. Remaining in Wyoming, Ennis weds his sweetheart Alma (Michelle Williams), with whom he will have two daughters as he ekes out a living. Jack, in Texas, catches the eye of a rodeo queen Lureen Newsome (Anne Hathaway). Their courtship and marriage result in a son, as well as jobs in her father's business. Four years pass. One day, Alma brings Ennis a postcard from Jack, who is en route to visit Wyoming. Ennis waits expectantly for his friend, and when Jack at last arrives, in just one moment it is clear that the passage of time has only strengthened the men's attachment. In the years that follow, Ennis and Jack struggle to keep their secret bond alive. They meet up several times annually. Even when they are apart, they face the eternal questions of fidelity, commitment and trust. Ultimately, the one constant in their lives is a force of nature – love.
 

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Atleast this movie wasn't called "******** Mountain"


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Forbidden Territory
In Ang Lee's devastating film 'Brokeback Mountain,' Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger buck Hollywood convention.

By Sean Smith
Newsweek
Nov. 21, 2005 issue - Two weeks ago, Ang Lee showed his new film to an audience in Los Angeles, and afterward he stuck around to answer questions from the crowd. Director Q&As are pretty common in the movie industry, and Lee—who won an Oscar for "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and has directed such acclaimed films as "The Ice Storm" and "Sense and Sensibility"—has done more than his share. But something strange happened this time—the same thing that happens almost every time Lee screens "Brokeback Mountain." "People don't have many questions," he says. "Most of the time, they just stand up and tell me how they feel." When they're still crying, he already knows.

Based on the short story by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Annie Proulx ("The Shipping News"), "Brokeback" is the tale of Ennis Del Mar (Heath Ledger) and Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal), two ranch hands who, in the summer of 1963, are hired to herd sheep on Wyoming's Brokeback Mountain. There, separated from the rest of the world, their laconic friendship develops, almost by accident, into a sexual relationship. As the summer ends, the two men are forced to separate, and they discover that their feelings for each other are stronger than they imagined. Jack dreams of buying a ranch together. Ennis thinks they'll be killed if anyone suspects their relationship. And so they marry women and have children, and for 20 years live apart, seeing each other only on rare camping trips, trying to hold on to the innocence and beauty of that first summer on the mountain. Inevitably, the longing and frustration, the years of repression, lead to a devastating conclusion.

Proulx's story caused a sensation when it appeared in The New Yorker eight years ago. Its raw masculinity, spare dialogue and lonely imagery subverted the myth of the American cowboy and obliterated gay stereotypes. It also felt like a sledgehammer to the chest. "This is a deep, permanent human condition, this need to be loved and to love," says Proulx from her home in Wyoming. "While I was working on this story, I was occasionally close to tears. I felt guilty that their lives were so difficult, yet there was nothing I could do about it. It couldn't end any other way."

The film, written by Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, is a near-perfect adaptation of Proulx's work. It has already earned the top prize at the Venice Film Festival and is almost certain to be an Oscar contender. More than that, though, "Brokeback" feels like a landmark film. No American film before has portrayed love between two men as something this pure and sacred. As such, it has the potential to change the national conversation and to challenge people's ideas about the value and validity of same-sex relationships. In the meantime, it's already upended decades of Hollywood conventional wisdom.

The day Jake Gyllenhaal was cast in "Brokeback," the chatter around the industry was not about what a wise choice he'd made. "It's the most stupid move he could make," said one top producer over lunch that afternoon. "It'll alienate his teen-girl fan base and could kill his career. What a waste." It's always been considered risky, if not career suicide, for actors with A-list aspirations to play gay roles. Tom Hanks's performance in "Philadelphia" helped a little, but even Hanks didn't kiss another man on screen. Gyllenhaal and Ledger don't dodge it. The kissing and the sex scenes are fierce and full-blooded. But if the actors were taking a risk, they sure don't seem to think so. "I never thought twice about it," Ledger insists. "For one thing, I never felt like I had anything at stake, and I think if you make decisions based on society's opinions, you're going to make boring choices. What terrified me was self-doubt. I knew that if I was going to do justice to this character, to this story and to this form of love, I was really going to have to mature as an actor, and as a person."

There's no doubt he rose to the challenge. It is, without question, his most powerful performance ever. Far from killing Ledger's career, which was in trouble after a string of failures, the movie has reignited it. Gyllenhaal isn't exactly hurting for work either. "They were like the beta-testing guys," says James Schamus, co-president of Focus Features, who has produced all of Lee's films and is releasing "Brokeback." "They've had to go through the endless questions about 'So, what was it like to kiss a guy?'"

Yes, they get asked about the sex a lot. "I'm amazed, really," Gyllenhaal says, laughing. "Everybody is soooo interested in it." And their conversations with journalists have given them fresh insight into straight-male psychology. After seeing the movie, Gyllenhaal says, male reporters will enter a room to interview him and almost always follow the same routine. "They come in and they're all, like, 'I just want you to know I'm straight'," he says, and laughs. If they've been moved by the film, he says, they often rationalize it by saying things like "Well, it's really more of a friendship." No, it isn't. "It's a love story," Gyllenhaal says. "They're two men having sex. There's nothing hidden there." Ledger has a theory about why the movie makes some men uncomfortable. "I suspect it's a fear that they are going to enjoy it," he says. "They don't understand that you are not going to become sexually attracted to men by recognizing the beauty of a love story between two men."

That discomfort would seem to make the movie difficult to market. When the trailer plays in theaters where there are a lot of young men in the audience, it's often met with snickers or outright laughter. How do you get those guys to see the movie? You don't. "If you have a problem with the subject matter, that's your problem, not mine," Schamus says. "It would be great if you got over your problem, but I'm not sitting here trying to figure out how to help you with it." In an early meeting, Schamus told Lee that, from a marketing standpoint, they were making this film for one core audience. "Yes, of course," Lee said. "The gay audience." No, Schamus said. "Women."

When it came time to design the poster for the film, Schamus didn't research posters of famous Westerns for ideas. He looked at the posters of the 50 most romantic movies ever made. "If you look at our poster," he says, "you can see traces of our inspiration, 'Titanic'." Still, questions remain about whether the film will play in rural America, and whether it can make a profit if only women and gay men go to see it. But Schamus says that by selling off the international distribution rights, Focus has already broken even on the film. "Literally, if your mom and my mom go to the theater, we're in profit," he says, laughing.

And it's likely that more than our mothers will buy tickets. The constant stream of positive word of mouth is turning it into a must-see for film lovers. More encouraging to the filmmakers, however, is that it's often having a profound effect on people—even the most seemingly cynical. At the Toronto Film Festival, Lee and the cast faced off against a room of reporters who had just seen the film. One blogger raised his hand and stood up. He didn't have a question, he said. He wanted to apologize. "For the last year on my Web site I've been calling this 'the gay-cowboy movie'," he said. "I just want you to know that I'm not going to be calling it that anymore."
 

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I will definitely rent this when it comes out. I tagged only three movies to see in the theatre this winter; Potter, Narnia and King Kong.

I've heard Brokeback Mt. is amazing though; Jake is a great actor.
 

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I went and saw this with my mom today. Camelview was a complete zoo. I've seen long lines there but never like this.

The movie was okay but a little boring (and thankfully it did not have that many gay cowboy scenes). All the hype about this movie being a beautiful love story that transcends sexual orientation is overblown. Their relationship seemed to be driven entirely by lust.
 

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Finally got to see this yesterday - one word - AWESOME!

Extremely well acted, beautifully shot, emotionally gripping - a great look at the torment and choices that gay men have had to face, and in many areas, still face, along with the emotional damage that is inflicted on all involved. It does move slowly in places, but it is not an over-wrought, over dramatic movie - a lot of subtitly in it.

Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams give powerful performances. Jake Gyllenhall is good as well.

And it is a love story - while there is some primal lust that drives the beginning, it is very evident that Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar do deeply love each other.

For those squeemish about seeing men kiss/have sex - those scenes are brief, and you do get to see Anne Hathaway's boobies (cue Harley).

Highly recommend this movie - I had been anticipating this for months, and it did not disapoint.
 
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