Broken record Sleazy Bashing time.

[Phrazbit]

Anyone see the article in the Republic yesterday?

It is almost a surprise that they are even 7-10 with Beasley not living up to the starring role.


“That’s what I’m still looking for,” Beasley said. “That’s what is so frustrating and so disheartening. I want that role so bad. I feel like I am that player that we need. I haven’t had a chance, or maybe I haven’t taken the opportunity to show it.”


In most cases, the Suns simply need to be better defensively and turn to P.J. Tucker at small forward for important minutes.


“I feel like I’m playing pretty decent defense,” Beasley said. “I’m not grip pliers. I’m not going to clamp, but who does? The NBA is about scoring points. I don’t feel like anyone is playing head and shoulders above me. I feel like I’m getting into my rotations and doing what I’m supposed to do on the defensive end. I don’t feel like I’m that far, or far at all, behind everybody else.”

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...ael-beasley-left-out-picture-crunch-time.html

Thats a hoot. He feels he is doing his job defensively? That no one is really outplaying him on the team? All while (and yes I am going to say it again) Beasley has been measurably the worst player in the entire league up to this point in the season.

Thats fantastic.

The guy is a moron who does not get it, he does not even remotely grasp what it takes to win games. Best case scenario for the Suns is Beasley gets back on the refer, gets caught and we can void his contract.

 

[elindholm]

My impression is that Beasley's offense has been worse than his defense, so in that sense he's correct that his defense shouldn't be costing him minutes. I read his comments as, "I can be competent defensively, but I know that my job is to make things happen on the offensive end, and that's where I've been so lousy."

 

[Phrazbit]

My impression is that Beasley's offense has been worse than his defense, so in that sense he's correct that his defense shouldn't be costing him minutes. I read his comments as, "I can be competent defensively, but I know that my job is to make things happen on the offensive end, and that's where I've been so lousy."

He is bad on both ends but he certainly hasnt been competent defensively. There are individual plays where he looks okay on D, such as occasionally on isolation (but still not as good as any other wing defender on the team), but if he is having to keep with a man who is moving off the ball, or make a read on a screen he is abysmal... like as bad as he could possibly be. Most of the time when he ends up on any part of a screen play he comes away covering no one, or flailing at the air as his man is running 3 strides in-front of him.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12PHO9.HTM#onoff

Look at the stats when he is in and out of the game, especially on defense. We give up 119 points per 100 possessions with him in the game, a horrific defense rating. When he is out of the game we get nearly 25 points better on D! As a team opponents shoot 54.4% with him on the court, 47.9% with him off.

He is, by a wide margin, our worst defender, and a huge factor in why we are constantly having to dig back from early holes.

However... yes, he is also among the worst offensive players in the NBA right now. He is a dual threat... to his own team.

 

[Superbone]

If Beasley thinks he's playing competent defense, then he's fooling himself. Sorry, Beas, games are won on both the offensive and defensive sides of the game.

 

[BC867]

From the AzRepublic/AzCentral after the loss to the Knicks . . .

VIEW FROM THE PRESS ROW

P.J. Tucker and Michael Beasley are polar opposites defensively at the small forward position. Eighteen games in, even the offense has not clicked for Beasley. Tucker has shown he can defend top scorers, staying with Carmelo Anthony well and forcing him to make mostly difficult shots.

At 7-11, the Suns might be close to a time where they consider living with Tucker’s offensive shortcomings to start solid on defense.

Paul Coro

That is a no-brainer.

Here is the comparison of Tucker and Beasley in the game vs. the Knicks.

PLAYER....MINUTES.....FG/M-A.....FT/M-A.....REB/O-T.....ASSISTS.....POINTS

Tucker......25:42...........5-6..........0-0...........1-5.............2..............10...

Beasley.....21:10..........4-10.........0-0...........1-4.............2...............9...

As Coro said, "Even the offense has not clicked for Beasley." If Tucker has offensive shortcomings, then Beasley has offensive retardation. And no defense.

Another 20-point deficit! It is time to complete the lineup switch and give Tucker the starting and finishing minutes.

I hope Gentry reads Coro's column at the bottom of this article.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...nix-suns-lose-new-york-knicks-game-recap.html

 

[Superbone]

I agree but will the front office? They have to try to protect their number one free agent acquisition this Summer.

 

[Phrazbit]

Some more breath taking statistics on the Sleaze.

This has been a season-long trend as the Suns are nearly 21 points per 100 possessions better when Beasley sits than when he plays, according to the NBA’s stats tool. Almost all of this difference comes at the defensive end, as the Suns possess a superb 95.0 defensive rating when he sits and an abysmal 114.7 rating when he plays.
To put that in perspective, the Suns without Beasley would be the best defensive team in the NBA but they are the worst by seven points per 100 possessions when he’s on the floor, which is a pretty wide margin that covers the difference between the No. 11 and No. 30 defensive teams in the league.

Read more: http://valleyofthesuns.com/2012/12/...oenix-suns-99-more-of-the-same/#ixzz2E7SNpZ4l

And lets not forget he is also the worst offensive player on the team right now... huzzah!

 

[tobiazz]

Personally, I would play Beasley, the human tank, even more minutes. I don't see a need to build chemistry with some other SF, since few of these players will be on this team in three years.

 

[Phrazbit]

Personally, I would play Beasley, the human tank, even more minutes. I don't see a need to build chemistry with some other SF, since few of these players will be on this team in three years.

I agree, its better for us in the long term to get a high pick... I just wish I didnt have to suffer through it. It would be a lot easier to stomach a bad season if we were playing a ton of young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves in the league. But watching us play awful with selfish, lazy and stupid players is depressing.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I agree, its better for us in the long term to get a high pick... I just wish I didnt have to suffer through it. It would be a lot easier to stomach a bad season if we were playing a ton of young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves in the league. But watching us play awful with selfish, lazy and stupid players is depressing.

I'm not sure who the lazy and selfish players are. IMO, Beasley is just stupid. Seriously, he's clueless not lazy.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

I'm not sure who the lazy and selfish players are. IMO, Beasley is just stupid. Seriously, he's clueless not lazy.

Steve

Beasley is lazy... a guy barley moves unless the ball is in his hands, is regularly slow in transition and appears to have made no progress in improving himself as a player in 4 years... if he isnt lazy who is? He is certainly selfish, I dont care if once in every 8 games he decides to throw some passes (and even so his assist to turnover ratio is horrible), once he gets the ball 95% of the time he calls his own number and only motions for a teammate if he wants a screen.

I think Shannon Brown certainly qualifies as both stupid and selfish. Scola is not stupid, a very smart player but he looks like he is taking a siesta half the time he is out there.

 

[Phrazbit]

Credit to wallabypie on another forum:

More stats showing Beasley's impact on our team:

+/- per 36 minutes with Beasley on court:
Dragic -8.2
Dudley -4.9
Brown -12.0
Tucker -6.6
Scola -12.2
Morris -8.9
Gortat -9.0
O'Neal -0.7

+/- per 36 minutes with Beasley on bench:
Dragic +2.8
Dudley +12.1
Brown +0.3
Tucker +4.7
Scola +11.2
Morris -6.2
Gortat +1.6
O'Neal +12.5

The damage Beasley does to his own team is unreal. He is like the anti-Steve Nash, destroying the stats of those around him while putting up trash stats himself.

Oh, one more note. The Timberwolves despite a rash of injuries have the most improved defense in the NBA from last year to this year. Its not a coincidence. Beasley is literally one of the worst players in the league.

 

[Covert Rain]

That is about as ugly as it gets.

 

[SirStefan32]

I always disliked Beasley, but that can't be right. Nobody can be THAT bad.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I always disliked Beasley, but that can't be right. Nobody can be THAT bad.

In that case, let me introduce you to Michael Nobody - and yes, he is that bad.

Steve

 

[tobiazz]

I agree, its better for us in the long term to get a high pick... I just wish I didnt have to suffer through it. It would be a lot easier to stomach a bad season if we were playing a ton of young guys who are trying to make a name for themselves in the league. But watching us play awful with selfish, lazy and stupid players is depressing.

It hurts not seeing them give any worthwhile prospects some burn, but I don't have to deal with any disappointment these days since I have no hope that they'll have a winning season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It hurts not seeing them give any worthwhile prospects some burn, but I don't have to deal with any disappointment these days since I have no hope that they'll have a winning season.

I have no problem with who we don't play, it's who we do play that bothers me. We have no worthwhile prospects sitting on the bench that need to be in there in place of Beasley. That's what happens when you give away draft pick after draft pick.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

I appreciate the OP for starting this thread. It makes it easy after every game to vent about the Beas and his poor play.

 

[Superbone]

I have no problem with who we don't play, it's who we do play that bothers me. We have no worthwhile prospects sitting on the bench that need to be in there in place of Beasley. That's what happens when you give away draft pick after draft pick.

I don't enjoy watching Beasley. I'd take anybody on the team (even Zeller!) to watch before him. It's frustrating watching his constant turnovers, bad passes, 20 foot shots just inside the three point line, non-contact, no foul basketball.

I truly wouldn't mind if he never played another minute and just sat on the bench the rest of his time here until we can shed him.

Just for you Steve, I enjoy watching Scola about 8 to 1 over Beasley.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't enjoy watching Beasley. I'd take anybody on the team (even Zeller!) to watch before him. It's frustrating watching his constant turnovers, bad passes, 20 foot shots just inside the three point line, non-contact, no foul basketball.

I truly wouldn't mind if he never played another minute and just sat on the bench the rest of his time here until we can shed him.

Just for you Steve, I enjoy watching Scola about 8 to 1 over Beasley.

Except for the small handful of us dedicated Scola haters, this ratio sounds about right. I tend to lump them together but there's no real argument in favor of Beasley. Scola is occasionally (perhaps frequently) horrible but Michael is horrible pretty much all the time. For me though, one of the the worst things about Beasley is he gives people a legitimate reason to stick up for Luis Scola.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

Except for the small handful of us dedicated Scola haters, this ratio sounds about right. I tend to lump them together but there's no real argument in favor of Beasley. Scola is occasionally (perhaps frequently) horrible but Michael is horrible pretty much all the time. For me though, one of the the worst things about Beasley is he gives people a legitimate reason to stick up for Luis Scola.

Steve

lol, I know exactly how you feel. All of the Kolb excuses based on other QBs awful play.

But I dont want this thread to get too off topic so please allow me to say:

Michael Beasley sucks. He sucks. He sucks really bad. He freaking sucks. He might be the worst player in the NBA. Watching him stain the Suns uniform with his presence makes me nauseous. He sucks.

Also Scola sucks too... but not near as much as the Sleaze.

 

[BC867]

It's official! Beasley gets benched.

Jared Dudley is back in the starting lineup. This time at his best position -- Small Forward -- as Beasley is finally sent to the bench.

 

[Phrazbit]

Jared Dudley is back in the starting lineup. This time at his best position -- Small Forward -- as Beasley is finally sent to the bench.

To celebrate this momentous occasion let us note how awful Michael Beasley truly is.

Michael Beasley has the worst +,- stat in the NBA (despite only ranking 108th in minutes played). The Suns have been outscored by a staggering 141 points in Beasley's playing time.

Furthermore the Suns have outscored their opponents by 61 points when Beasley is out of the game. In only 20 games played on the year the Suns have a jaw dropping 202 point swing from when the Sleaze is on and off the court... on pace for an 800 point swing for the season.

And we thought Childress was bad...

 

[Phrazbit]

Jared Dudley is back in the starting lineup. This time at his best position -- Small Forward -- as Beasley is finally sent to the bench.

 

[Superbone]

Beasley played well for three quarters today and then basically gave the game away in the fourth with his bad passes and turnovers. Part of it is on Gentry though. Dudley was playing really well but couldn't get back in the game both halves.