Browns going QB at 1 & 4 ????

[AZ Native]

Nothing says, “I have no faith in my scouting department and no idea what I’m doing” more than drafting two QBs with two first round picks, especially in the Top-4. The Browns were 0-16 because it has multiple holes all over the roster. It has an opportunity to draft two premiere players at different positions.

We are talking about the Browns, right?

 

[GimmedaBall]

I have posted, on more than one occasion, the number of QB's that have QB'd this team since they arrived in AZ and believe me, that list would rival the Browns on any day.

No disagreement there when comparing Cards and Browns. Difference is the most recent number of first-round picks by the Browns that have failed---have to go back to Leinart for a comparable bust in the first round for the Cards whereas the Browns are making it an annual event.

The real calculation that needs to be done is the success rate when a veteran QB changes teams and has a revitaliztion and/or growth that leads to wins. Palmer went from the Raider discard bin to some good years with the Cards.

That success rate result would provide a good comparison and direction when deciding between a newbie draft pick or a young vet to fill the QB position.

 

[NJCardFan]

No disagreement there when comparing Cards and Browns. Difference is the most recent number of first-round picks by the Browns that have failed---have to go back to Leinart for a comparable bust in the first round for the Cards whereas the Browns are making it an annual event.

The real calculation that needs to be done is the success rate when a veteran QB changes teams and has a revitaliztion and/or growth that leads to wins. Palmer went from the Raider discard bin to some good years with the Cards.

That success rate result would provide a good comparison and direction when deciding between a newbie draft pick or a young vet to fill the QB position.

Can't argue that. Of course we have the distinction of drafting players, them sucking here, only to become near hall of famers elsewhere. Thomas Jones, Leonard Davis, Garrison Hearst, Calvin Pace, all had much better careers elsewhere than here. The Browns, well, not so much.

 

[Ronin]

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[GimmedaBall]

Can't argue that. Of course we have the distinction of drafting players, them sucking here, only to become near hall of famers elsewhere. Thomas Jones, Leonard Davis, Garrison Hearst, Calvin Pace, all had much better careers elsewhere than here. The Browns, well, not so much.

Add Jay Novacek, TE. Although he was only a 6th round pick in '85, he did move to Dallas and have a solid career with some Pro-Bowls and plenty of playoff wins. (Not sure if he didn't get the opportunity here. He started 6 games for us in 5 years, 88 games for the Cowpies in 6 years).

 

[moklerman]

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Which doesn't make sense to me. Why take one of those guys at the top and likely sacrifice a blue-chipper? One could get Allen or Mayfield at 4 and pair them with Barkley. But probably not doing it in the reverse order.

 

[notdeadyet]

Barkley at #1, whatever QB remains at #4. That QB will be fine with Barkley behind him...

 

[pmacLean]

I hope it's true. Personally, I'd laugh my ass off if one was a total bust (i.e. Russell, Leaf) and 1 wqas the next Tom Brady... and they kept the right one...... the humour here is off the scale (and I object to the spell checker flagging humour, oh my god, you can;t have that u there, it is so dumb-s$$t unamerican to use PROPER english. Who programs this crap ?

 

[Ronin]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account@AdamSchefter 9m9 minutes ago

Just to add a bit more murkiness to top of draft: one NFL executive said this morning that Baker Mayfield is “definitely” in Cleveland’s conversation to become the No. 1 overall pick.

 

[CardLogic]

It has been said that the Giants are willing to consider trading out of the No. 2 pick. I had the thought that Cleveland has enough "draft capital" to be able swap their No. 4 pick plus additional compensation with the Giants for that No. 2 spot.

Crazy as is sounds, it is a deal that could work for both teams. How wild would that be for the Browns to have the Nos. 1 and 2 picks in the same draft! They could get Saquon Barkley AND their choice of QB's!

 

[jf-08]

I hate these weird click bait threads.

 

[Chopper0080]

You take the QB #1. If you are too stupid to identify the best one, it isn't going to matter. Barkley is a huge running back that runs with the power of Reggie Bush...he is no way more valuable to a franchise than a QB.

 

[gmabel830]

It has been said that the Giants are willing to consider trading out of the No. 2 pick. I had the thought that Cleveland has enough "draft capital" to be able swap their No. 4 pick plus additional compensation with the Giants for that No. 2 spot.

Crazy as is sounds, it is a deal that could work for both teams. How wild would that be for the Browns to have the Nos. 1 and 2 picks in the same draft! They could get Saquon Barkley AND their choice of QB's!

If I was the Browns, I would try to move from 4 to 2 to ensure they get their QB and Barkley. I think they are content staying at 4 and getting Barkley or Chubb though.

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[oaken1]

joe thomas just retired...anyone know who the browns have at LT to replace him?? good chance whichever young qb they select is going to get blindsided regularly

 

[don7031]

^That's when he isn't getting plastered by the other edge rusher. The Browns have a solid triangle but their tackles are young and below average in pass protection.

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/03/13/cleveland-browns-offensive-line-rankings/

 

[GimmedaBall]

joe thomas just retired...anyone know who the browns have at LT to replace him?? good chance whichever young qb they select is going to get blindsided regularly

Cleveland has three picks in the second round at 33, 35, and 64.

They could gather some good talent for their OL by staying put with their picks at the top of the second round. Another alternative would be to bundle those 2nd round picks and get back into the lower half of the 1st and get a top OL player.

Sure is fun to draft when you got the draft pick captial.