Bryant charged with felony sexual assault

[Ryanwb]

Just because Kobe is a famous multimillionare basketball player, he is not above the law. I hope the DA is good and can prove his case so FINALLY a scum bag athlete can serve some jail time.

 

[JJ Slim]

Innocent until proven guilty only works if you are white and rich. Sorry to break the news but while our nation was founded with that being one of the main premises it has been a very long time since it actually worked that way. Nice ideal but all it is now is a nice catch phrase.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Originally posted by Freddie
You guys act like you've never made a mistake. When FJ was with Hancock's wife I don't think there was this much resentment.

Jordan had a child out of wedlock, so did Malone, as well as many other players. Look, stuff happens. Sometimes it's hard for ANY normal man to keep his manhood in his pants when a girl is throwing herself at you.

I am not condoning his actions, but I can't believe none of you don't know someone who's had an affair. Just because he makes millions doesn't mean he's not human.

Good grief! This is not about a mistake, its about felony sexual assault. That is rape. And you can bet that there is a very good case against Kobe or the county attorney would not be filing charges.

It doesn't matter how cool, nice, or together he seems to be. What matters is what he does.

Right now, Mr. Bryant is in deep trouble.

 

[Lefty]

I wonder how many other females Kobe has had sex with since he got married? Could you imagine if some of those girls came public with it.

 

[Shane]

Not to pick on anyone but I cant believe how many posts I have read with people inferring that just because he's kobie this probably didnt happen? Or the girl is just out to get rich so Kobie must be innocent. Many of you may be right but you could just as easily be wrong!

Its funny when its someone like Kobie how many of you forget that there is quite possibly a very real victim here who was possibly forced to have sexual intercourse.

You guys act like just becasue a guy is rich,famous, and good looking that he doesnt have to rape anyone. That is probably so but for many men they get turned on by the power trip involved in rape. It is many times an illness!

I hope this is all a big sham too. But hoping it doesnt make it so. try and take soem time and put yourself in the victims shoes!

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by JJ Slim
Innocent until proven guilty only works if you are white and rich. Sorry to break the news but while our nation was founded with that being one of the main premises it has been a very long time since it actually worked that way. Nice ideal but all it is now is a nice catch phrase.

I'm not so ignorant as to believe that minorities in general are not oftentimes at a disadvantage in a court of law still today. However, I think someone would have to be in denial to think that being African-American didn't help O.J. Simpson. If he was a prominent white athlete/actor he wouldn't have been able to play the race card which is the only thing that kept Simpson from being put to death.

Joe Mama

 

[JJ Slim]

Very true, Joe. There are definitely exceptions. And sometimes the justice system also works as it was intended. But those times are few and far between. In most cases it is like what I said.

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by Shane H
Not to pick on anyone but I cant believe how many posts I have read with people inferring that just because he's kobie this probably didnt happen? Or the girl is just out to get rich so Kobie must be innocent. Many of you may be right but you could just as easily be wrong!

Its funny when its someone like Kobie how many of you forget that there is quite possibly a very real victim here who was possibly forced to have sexual intercourse.

You guys act like just becasue a guy is rich,famous, and good looking that he doesnt have to rape anyone. That is probably so but for many men they get turned on by the power trip involved in rape. It is many times an illness!

I hope this is all a big sham too. But hoping it doesnt make it so. try and take soem time and put yourself in the victims shoes!

I couldn't agree more. None of us know the first thing about this girl, and frankly we really don't know Kobe Bryant well enough to even speculate what really happened. There are all sorts of sexual criminals out there who are guilty as hell and had people that thought they really knew them think they were innocent. It happens every day.

Joe Mama

 

[Joe Mama]

Have you guys ever watched that show on Sunday nights where they show the real trials? It's one of the 20 Law and Order shows on TV these days.

It is truly scary how little evidence one jury will use to convict someone. Then the next week you couldn't possibly find more evidence of guilt, yet there is some yahoo on the jury who thinks they are innocent. It's actually prove frustrating to watch.

Joe Mama

 

[Skkorpion]

He said, she said. He wins.

In the end, whether it was rape or consentual sex, Kobe Bryant is a scum of a human being. And his "wife", term used loosely, is a fraud who wants to keep her money.

yech!

 

[Chaz]

Originally posted by slinslin
First he said he didn't even know her
Then he said he didn't sleep with her

Now he says he did sleep with her !but! they both wanted it.

Just based on that he is a liar and it will certainly not help himself.

It is unfortunate it happens to someone the NBA made one of its icons but I would feel a lot worse if it happened to TMac.
Lakersfans must not wonder that other teams fans are wishing them bad the way most Lakersfans act.

Do you have some links / quotes where Kobe said anything?

I just heard today he admits adultry. I never heard any denials except that he was innocent of commiting a crime.

Just wondering if there was some documentation for calling him a liar.

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by SirChaz
Do you have some links / quotes where Kobe said anything?

I just heard today he admits adultry. I never heard any denials except that he was innocent of commiting a crime.

Just wondering if there was some documentation for calling him a liar.

I was thinking the same thing. I've only heard him deny he was guilty of a crime up until today.

Joe Mama

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by SirChaz

Just wondering if there was some documentation for calling him a liar.

Hmmm....did you notice that at first he said he didn't know her? And now he is saying that he had sex with her.

I don't know what you qualify as lying, but that sounds like a lie to me. Let's face it. We already know that Kobe isn't the role model that we believed, even if he isn't guilty of rape.

 

[JJ Slim]

Kobe's new jersey. Enjoy!

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[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by KloD
I personally didn't see any problem with the police job in the OJ case. What the defense did was claim they were all in some big conspiracy to set up OJ. The jury was filled with people who had little education...I'm not going to waste my time. The evidence all
pointed to him 100%, but the claim he was setup is what the jury focused on. A pure and pathetic joke!

Hmmm...The police only took 6 oz. of blood from OJ instead of the 7 oz. standard. That blood was transported to the scene of the crime in an unsealed envelope.

Because they only had 6 oz. instead of 7 oz. and the blood was taken to the scene of the crime, it isn't unreasonable to claim that the police might have spread 1 oz. of blood on a q-trip around the scene of the crime.

OJ's hair was found at the scene of the crime....but the police had taken a blanket of Nicole's to cover the body. Another violation of police procedure (we now have 4 violations of police procedure).

The LA CIS had trainees collecting evidence, and it was filmed like all investigations are. The film showed that the trainees were collecting the evidence improperly in a way that could cause faulty evidence (another violation).

The point I'm making, is that the LA police department bungled this case. I could think of five violations of police procedure off the top of my head. The police dept was either conspiring (unlikely, but still possible) against OJ or the police dept. was doing a shoddy job (very possible). No matter what you think about his guilt, the law says that you must be 100% certain he was guilty. There was enough reasonable doubt that he could not be convicted (though he is still guilty in the court of public opinion).

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
The point I'm making, is that the LA police department bungled this case. I could think of five violations of police procedure off the top of my head. The police dept was either conspiring (unlikely, but still possible) against OJ or the police dept. was doing a shoddy job (very possible). No matter what you think about his guilt, the law says that you must be 100% certain he was guilty. There was enough reasonable doubt that he could not be convicted (though he is still guilty in the court of public opinion).

The law does not say you must be 100% certain of guilt. It says you must be certain beyond a reasonable doubt. If all the police had was DNA evidence all of those police screw ups would be enough for me to reasonably doubt guilt. But when you put the DNA with all of the circumstantial evidence surrounding the case I believe O.J. Simpson was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Joe Mama

 

[Chaz]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Hmmm....did you notice that at first he said he didn't know her? And now he is saying that he had sex with her.

No I guess I didn't hear him say he didn't know her. I was just asking where anyone else heard that is all.

It is obivious now there was a relationship of some kind. I just never heard of an explicit denial.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Joe Mama
The law does not say you must be 100% certain of guilt. It says you must be certain beyond a reasonable doubt. If all the police had was DNA evidence all of those police screw ups would be enough for me to reasonably doubt guilt. But when you put the DNA with all of the circumstantial evidence surrounding the case I believe O.J. Simpson was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Joe Mama

But because the blood sample wasn't done to police standards, technically there was no DNA evidence. All they had was circumstantial evidence. The team of lawyers that OJ put together, destroyed the prosecutions case.

I guess saying that you have to be 100% certain of guilt is misleading, but there was reasonable doubt, and that's why he was let off.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
But because the blood sample wasn't done to police standards, technically there was no DNA evidence. All they had was circumstantial evidence. The team of lawyers that OJ put together, destroyed the prosecutions case.

I guess saying that you have to be 100% certain of guilt is misleading, but there was reasonable doubt, and that's why he was let off.

Exactly, and he was found guilty in the wrongful death civil case because you do not need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something. Instead it's based on a preponderence of the evidence.

 

[rkellysunsfan]

No I guess I didn't hear him say he didn't know her. I was just asking where anyone else heard that is all.

Of course you didn't hear him say that. He didn't say anything like that. He basically said that he would never sexual assault a woman. That is still to be determined, but people on these boards saying that he lied before and that he said that he had no relationship with that woman are wrong. It's as simple as that.

In the end, whether it was rape or consentual sex, Kobe Bryant is a scum of a human being.

Oh come on! People make mistakes. He cheated on his wife and he was wrong for that. But it seems like his wife can forgive him for ti, so it's really none of our business after that.

And his "wife", term used loosely, is a fraud who wants to keep her money.

I guess that makes sense...? First of all, by "wife", people mean the woman that Kobe Bryant married legally in the state of Los Angeles, under the law, and under God. I'm not completely sure how much more of a "wife" a person could have.

And how can people express that they feel so badly for Kobe's wife, because he's scum for cheating on her, but then call her a fraud? She's not a fraud. Her husband cheated on him, so in reality, she's a victim here. But if she just wanted to keep her money, don't you think it'd make sense for her to just sue her husband for a divorce, and take half of that $45 million Nike contract he just signed, and his Laker contract he'll be playing out for the next who-knows-how-many years. She may be rich, but that doesn't make her a fraud. What has she done wrong during this whole ordeal? Maybe she just loves her husband and trusts him, because the truth of the matter is, Kobe wouldn't do something like that.

 

[elindholm]

Maybe she just loves her husband and trusts him, because the truth of the matter is, Kobe wouldn't do something like that.

??????

Bryant wouldn't do "something like" what? Is "the truth of the matter" that he wouldn't cheat on her? Is that what you're saying? Or that he would cheat on her, but he wouldn't commit sexual assault? So she trusts him for that -- "Well, my husband may cheat on me, but he won't commit assault"?

By the way, rkellysunsfan, you are the Mike Spisak of this board. Repeatedly getting banned, coming back over and over under new nicknames, insisting that you aren't the person who was banned, and then starting in with your same tired (expletive).

I'm sick of it. To be honest, I don't think you ever should have been banned, in spite of your juvenile insults -- but please, try to curb back the nauseating routine of springing to a tear-jerking defense of every last one of your NBA heroes.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by rkellysunsfan
Of course you didn't hear him say that. He didn't say anything like that. He basically said that he would never sexual assault a woman. That is still to be determined, but people on these boards saying that he lied before and that he said that he had no relationship with that woman are wrong. It's as simple as that.



Oh come on! People make mistakes. He cheated on his wife and he was wrong for that. But it seems like his wife can forgive him for ti, so it's really none of our business after that.



I guess that makes sense...? First of all, by "wife", people mean the woman that Kobe Bryant married legally in the state of Los Angeles, under the law, and under God. I'm not completely sure how much more of a "wife" a person could have.

And how can people express that they feel so badly for Kobe's wife, because he's scum for cheating on her, but then call her a fraud? She's not a fraud. Her husband cheated on him, so in reality, she's a victim here. But if she just wanted to keep her money, don't you think it'd make sense for her to just sue her husband for a divorce, and take half of that $45 million Nike contract he just signed, and his Laker contract he'll be playing out for the next who-knows-how-many years. She may be rich, but that doesn't make her a fraud. What has she done wrong during this whole ordeal? Maybe she just loves her husband and trusts him, because the truth of the matter is, Kobe wouldn't do something like that.

Kobe will probably lose his contract with Nike regardless of the outcome......

The ramifications of this could be quite extreme...he could serve some prison time, and lose a tremendous amount of cash over this.

 

[Krangodnzr]

R Kelly suns fan.....you know the artist that slept with many young girls and has been convicted of statutory rape?

Nice choice. Now you can possibly (if Kobe is convicted) idolize two rapists (R Kelly is a pedophile too).

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Kobe will probably lose his contract with Nike regardless of the outcome......

The ramifications of this could be quite extreme...he could serve some prison time, and lose a tremendous amount of cash over this.

And deservedly so.

Regardless of the outcome of the case, Kobe's admission of adultery has forever tarnished his reputation.

 

[Ryanwb]

I read an article that said basically if the outcome of Kobe's case results in his being guilty. All of the major companies such as Nike, McDonalds, etc are simply gonig to stop offering individual players endorcements and start sponsering events. The risk factor has become too large to invest so much in one person. That is huge!!!!