Budda signs 3 year extension

[BritCard]

Who???? The guy is 25, been on 4 teams in as many years and yes, he having a nice season. Lets see how much that guy is overpaid at this next signing for being the worst rated run defending safety in the league. The dude blows nearly one in 5 tackles he attempts. And I found this on Wikipedia.

Geno Stone sir, is no Budda Baker

Safeties are playing 60% of snaps in coverage.

Would you rather have one that has an INT every 2.5 games for $7m or one that's a good tackle for $18m?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I'd rather spend money on more good players, not overpay a safety for "leadership".

You can get 90% of what Budda offers on the field, plus ball skills, for around half the money.

JC offers leadership, but we aren't overpaying him for it.

That's ultimately the problem with paying Budda big money...if he made the big plays he'd be a no doubt 18M per year player. He doesn't and hasn't for the vast majority of his career.

The counter that "well nobody else will come here" is just a loser mentality. They're paying a ton of money to Budda/Conner/Fro and none of them play a premium position.

 

[Shane]

That's ultimately the problem with paying Budda big money...if he made the big plays he'd be a no doubt 18M per year player. He doesn't and hasn't for the vast majority of his career.

The counter that "well nobody else will come here" is just a loser mentality. They're paying a ton of money to Budda/Conner/Fro and none of them play a premium position.

Leadership bro leadership lol

 

[QuebecCard]

He'd be worth $18m if he had any ball skills, he doesn't. Which is a problem for someone playing 60% of snaps in coverage.

Budda has 10% missed tackles vs 16% for stone. Not sure that's worth $11m more.

Budda has allowed a 124 passer rating. His career rating allowed is 109.

Stone has an 88 passer rating allowed and a career 68.

Also he's not had 4 teams. He had 4 years with the Ravens and signed a 2 year deal with the Bengals this offseason.

I guess Stone will be worth $20 million per next time out.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Completely disagree… Hudson for whatever reason the day he got here couldn’t snap in shotgun to save his life.. bowling them backward towards Kyler or over his head way too often. It was ridiculous.

I think this was recency bias. For about that 1/2 to 3/4 of a season, we finally had top 5 center play in the NFL and it showed.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

He'd be worth $18m if he had any ball skills, he doesn't. Which is a problem for someone playing 60% of snaps in coverage.

Budda has 10% missed tackles vs 16% for stone. Not sure that's worth $11m more.

Budda has allowed a 124 passer rating. His career rating allowed is 109.

Stone has an 88 passer rating allowed and a career 68.

Also he's not had 4 teams. He had 4 years with the Ravens and signed a 2 year deal with the Bengals this offseason.

...and if he could throw the football, he'd be a 40m player, lol.

And despite all of that, he is our best player, and it isn't even close.

3 years / 30 guaranteed seems like a great fit for both sides, especially if a lot of that cap goes into this year. Sadly, he'll likely be gone by this team ever really competes, but I guess you could say the same thing to about 98% of every Cardinal player ever, lol.

 

[Shane]

I think this was recency bias. For about that 1/2 to 3/4 of a season, we finally had top 5 center play in the NFL and it showed.

No way his snaps were out of control. It was ridiculous

 

[QuebecCard]

No way his snaps were out of control. It was ridiculous

Fro has rolled a few.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No way his snaps were out of control. It was ridiculous

Anyone know where they track these 'fumbles' that are clearly on the C, but are always credited with the QB for some dumb reason?

 

[ajcardfan]

Anyone know where they track these 'fumbles' that are clearly on the C, but are always credited with the QB for some dumb reason?

Shane's brain.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Shane's brain.

I meant a reliable source...

 

[Shane]

I meant a reliable source...

sadly they are credited to the QB which is kinda crazy… but he was responsible for MANY ERRANT SNAPS how you guys dont remember it is a bit asinine as bad as it was. Even ones that didn’t turn into fumbles. Where Kyler had to jump and save it from going over his head or pick it up from rolling along the ground. Etc. it was bad. It was like he forgot how to snap all of a sudden. It was frequent and talked about in game threads.

 

[Shane]

I meant a reliable source...

Even jokes made about it right here because it was happening so often in this thread:

Cardinals at Panthers gameday thread 10-2-22

Going for it, again And it's no good on a bad snap

www.arizonasportsfans.com

Another game thread

Cardinals at Niners gameday thread 1-8-23

Cardinals can use a new owner, GM and head coach. I know one can't get everything but two out of three ain't bad.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

And more

Chiefs at Cardinals gameday thread 9-11-22

Looks like the LA playoff game Cards in playoff form for sure.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

3 in one game

Even back in 2021

Mistakes

made by this team are ridiculous. This game is over

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Comment specifically related to Hudson's issues after he left and forhold starting from @kerouac9

So clearly he remembers the issues as well:

All is Not Lost

It’s easy to get discouraged and think this is a lost year. However, that would not be a valid conclusion. Of course, most everyone is pleased with the coach’s, though I warn you there will be some rough times ahead. There will be more losses than wins. Nonetheless some other valuable things...

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You guys try to pass his snap issues off as recency bias or as if it was a non issue is a little bizarre. .

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Even jokes made about it right here because it was happening so often in this thread:

Cardinals at Panthers gameday thread 10-2-22

Going for it, again And it's no good on a bad snap

www.arizonasportsfans.com

Another game thread

Cardinals at Niners gameday thread 1-8-23

Cardinals can use a new owner, GM and head coach. I know one can't get everything but two out of three ain't bad.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

And more

Chiefs at Cardinals gameday thread 9-11-22

Looks like the LA playoff game Cards in playoff form for sure.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

3 in one game

Even back in 2021

Mistakes

made by this team are ridiculous. This game is over

www.arizonasportsfans.com

Comment specifically related to Hudson's issues after he left and forhold starting from @kerouac9

So clearly he remembers the issues as well:

All is Not Lost

It’s easy to get discouraged and think this is a lost year. However, that would not be a valid conclusion. Of course, most everyone is pleased with the coach’s, though I warn you there will be some rough times ahead. There will be more losses than wins. Nonetheless some other valuable things...

www.arizonasportsfans.com

It's not that I don't remember them, I do. It's just like I'm not going to stress out about every time Budda misses a tackle, since that is also a core responsibility.

trying to bring the thread back.

 

[Shane]

It's not that I don't remember them, I do. It's just like I'm not going to stress out about every time Budda misses a tackle, since that is also a core responsibility.

trying to bring the thread back.

Well its a little bizarre that you would call it recency bias and call for the stats to be looked up. And of course @ajcardfan saying they only happened in my head. (clearly they didnt) as if there was no issue and his snaps were just fine. If you or him now remember the issues? But whatever you're right lets get back on topic Hudson is a non issue anymore thank god.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well its a little bizarre that you would call it recency bias and call for the stats to be looked up. And of course @ajcardfan saying they only happened in my head. (clearly they didnt) as if there was no issue and his snaps were just fine. If you or him now remember the issues? But whatever you're right lets get back on topic Hudson is a non issue anymore thank god.

I didn't call for the stats to be brought up for that reason. I just have never seen a site that tracks them. I wasn't trying to prove either one of our points one way or another.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Well its a little bizarre that you would call it recency bias and call for the stats to be looked up. And of course @ajcardfan saying they only happened in my head. (clearly they didnt) as if there was no issue and his snaps were just fine. If you or him now remember the issues? But whatever you're right lets get back on topic Hudson is a non issue anymore thank god.

I didnt take it that way. I just thought he meant that you remembered them much more clearly than others...

 

[ajcardfan]

Well its a little bizarre that you would call it recency bias and call for the stats to be looked up. And of course @ajcardfan saying they only happened in my head. (clearly they didnt) as if there was no issue and his snaps were just fine. If you or him now remember the issues? But whatever you're right lets get back on topic Hudson is a non issue anymore thank god.

I don't think you made them up. Yes, snaps have been an issue sometimes. I just made a joke like you haven't forgotten any of them or have been keeping track mentally.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don't think you made them up. Yes, snaps have been an issue sometimes. I just made a joke like you haven't forgotten any of them or have been keeping track mentally.

I didn't add a smiley either. I thought it was understood. Sorry Shane for the confusion...

 

[BACH]

He seems to be fading a little down the stretch. I wonder how much of that is Brown next to him. Brown started strong, but seems to be getting beat more now. I could be wrong since that is based on what I remember seeing.

Check out my weekly O-line analysis.
IMO since Hernandez went down Froholdt has been asked to compensate for the guards.

Instead of playing him to his strengths he has been asked to stay “at home” and had to make some really difficult blocks in order to spring the guards to pull. It worked in the beginning at the season, but with Hernandez out and defenses started to scheme against the guards and primarily started shooting the G gap, Froholdt was put in a very difficult situation. Some of the plays against the Seahawks where the defense blew up the running play, Froholdt was asked to make close to impossible blocks.

This week the pulling scheme was altered and the primary pulls was Froholdt and backside tackle. The results showed immediately on multiple fronts.

1. Run game improved.
2 Froholdt made some great blocks.
3. Guards are asked to hold their own. Adams has done that well in the run game, struggles more in the pass-pro. Brown has looked good in pass-pro but exposed in the run game

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Check out my weekly O-line analysis.
IMO since Hernandez went down Froholdt has been asked to compensate for the guards.

Instead of playing him to his strengths he has been asked to stay “at home” and had to make some really difficult blocks in order to spring the guards to pull. It worked in the beginning at the season, but with Hernandez out and defenses started to scheme against the guards and primarily started shooting the G gap.

This week the pulling scheme was altered and the primary pulls was Froholdt and backside tackle. The results showed immediately on multiple fronts.

1. Run game improved.
2 Froholdt made some great blocks.
3. Guards are asked to hold their own. Adams has done that well in the run game, struggles more in the pass-pro. Brown has looked good in pass-pro but exposed in the run game

Great call out, but we played a very poor team and that has to be taken into account. If we see the same success against the Rams, I'll be on board with this...

 

[TigToad]

I’m thrilled with this deal. Am I wrong to think we can apply that bonus this years cap space? That means his overall extension won’t be a big negative long term. I think this is a solid win.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

sadly they are credited to the QB which is kinda crazy… but he was responsible for MANY ERRANT SNAPS how you guys dont remember it is a bit asinine as bad as it was. Even ones that didn’t turn into fumbles. Where Kyler had to jump and save it from going over his head or pick it up from rolling along the ground. Etc. it was bad. It was like he forgot how to snap all of a sudden. It was frequent and talked about in game threads.

I remember this

 

[WisconsinCard]

I’m thrilled with this deal. Am I wrong to think we can apply that bonus this years cap space? That means his overall extension won’t be a big negative long term. I think this is a solid win.

Does it really matter? I mean whatever isn't used this year rolls over. So IMO it's six in one hand 1/2 a dozen in the other.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I remember this

Me too