pmacLean
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I'll just correct that last line
"CC was on a very BAD team & left for money to play on a GOOD team.
Calais Campbell
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I'll just correct that last line
"CC was on a very BAD team & left for money to play on a GOOD team.
Cardsfanstl
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Looks like Jax got there money's worth for at least one game.
gmabel830
It's football season!!
And you can't field a competitive team with a bunch of dead cap money in 2019 and beyond due to cap mismanagement now. It'll be interesting to see if Campbell makes it all 4 years of his contract. The Jags have eaten bad contracts before, it's part of the reason why they've been so lousy for so long.
kerouac9
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Who knows what's going to happen in 2019? The salary cap is increasing $10M per year. We can't field a competitive team right now. I don't know why you should be more worried about two years from now.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
We have a bad offense right now...but we could arguably still be competitive with a dominant defense. We don't have a dominant defense because we lack an interior pressure player. This is why I argue that the biggest issue for the Cards is a complete lack of an identity. If they would have planned for a top end defense and work in progress defense, we are in a different mindset right now. We aren't, and we are on the verge of a lost season, and complete overhaul next year. Who knows what happens at that point, much less in 2020. Play for the now. If the worse part of a vet contract is one year, it is worth it. The issues are the ones where in year 2 it looks bad.
iLLmatiC
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We have spent 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder on defense in the past 2 years, in addition to trading a 2nd rounder for CJ. I'm not quite sure what we could've done different. There was a mass exodus of talent from our defense last year and unfortunately I think we found out the difference between Calais on the line vs not being on the line yesterday.
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Yeah... the complete lack of identity is what had me so lukewarm going into the season... and that was even with DJ, because I knew with Arians at the controls, we were never going to become a dominant running team.
I just didn't get the "going for it one more year" plan... while losing TWO of our best players/impact makers on D, letting the CB spot exactly the same and coming back with pretty much zero upgrades to the WR corps. That doesn't and didn't look like "going for it"... it looked like playing out the string with this group.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
OK, but if you don't fill the spot that you need, those picks are worthless. We added another ILB...that doesn't help the DL. Nkemdiche has been a question mark in college, and if we are stupid enough to pin our hopes on him, then we deserve this mess. After that we added another undersized S who is used as a backup for Mathieu. So, we used our limited resources is pretty short sighted ways if we are using this as the reason we didn't get creative to keep Campbell.
100% legit concerned with next year. We have a mediocre defense, and a bad offensive line that is expensive. We have too many holes to fill and Arians has failed to show he can scheme an offense for 1 year and 1 game. That is assuming he returns.
So true, we needed a FS so badly and they never addressed it and expected to replace CC with a guy who hasn't been able to get on the field to play one half never mind an entire game. By the way Chopper your avatar is so appropriate for where this season is quickly going.
Not sure why anyone is complaining about the Cards D last night. They're what kept them in the game. If the offense actually played offense, the game would have been a blow out. The D was on the field waaayy to much and eventually was going to crack.
To me, the D is a dominate one. Yeah, it stinks losing CC, but they played well without him.
To me, the D is a dominate one. Yeah, it stinks losing CC, but they played well without him.
kerouac9
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I actually think we have and will have a pretty good defense. The problem is that it's reached its ceiling.
Stafford had 7.1 YPA and the Lions averaged 3 YPC.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
It will be tough for our defense to be pretty good when it is trying to overcome this offense. Our personnel is really good on defense outside of defensive line. I still have my doubts about Bettcher. Your comment that they have reached their ceiling is probably correct. I don't see them getting better unless Keim doubles down next year and we get a QB like Alex Smith who doesn't put the defense in bad spots.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Yes. Our defense is not going to be able to beat this offense.
pmacLean
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Stafford Stats here are pretty misleading .. I assume that is for the whole game
Lions Rushing 3rd Q - 4 for 7 yds for a 1.75 avg
Lions Rushing 4th Q - 9 for 42 yds for a 4.6 avg
Lions Passing 3rd Q - 8 for 58 yds for 7.25 per attempt
Lions Passing 4th Q - 8 for 122 yds for 15.25 per attempt
we has a pretty good defense for 2 and 1/2 quarters.
Unfortunately, the Lions adjusted and we, as per usual, did not and the wheels came completely off in the 4th.
We only have a 'good' defense if the opposing team does not adjust, when it does, we are toast.
The only team that would fail to adjust and that I think we could maybe beat ... is us.
If we do not annihilate the Colts (assuming Luck is not back and if he is we should at least beat them handily) then no more proof will be needed. We will be revealed as a an over-hyped, under-perfoming, BADLY coached bunch of imposters... and a high pick for a new QB will probably be almost certain.
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no one's over-hyped us this year... except our own coach who laughably talking about "rings" in his last presser before the season.
And before anyone says "what do you want him to say at the presser that he think we're going to suck?!"
No... I want my head coach to be less blustery, especially after a piss poor season last year and focus on the here and now and stop making himself look silly by talking about getting a ring.
"well, I think we might win some games this year. There are questions guys on our roster, unlike all the other teams that are stacked. So we might win games, we might suck. We'll see. I hope this makes my players confident"
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iLLmatiC
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Minimizing the turnovers would help the defense a lot. Can't do much when you're starting on the 50 yard line, eventually an offense is going to score.
We should shut down the Colts but this team has proven me wrong before.
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Harry
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I never expected them to pay that much for CC. I just thought they needed to do more in personnel acquisition rather than just depending on Nkemdiche and Peters. There were players available, like Williams.
The poor offense left the defense out of gas by quarter 4. The question is, was age a factor? The Lions won last year by being in better condition for quarter 4. This game clearly showed that again. If this becomes a trend the Cards are in big troubles.
The poor offense left the defense out of gas by quarter 4. The question is, was age a factor? The Lions won last year by being in better condition for quarter 4. This game clearly showed that again. If this becomes a trend the Cards are in big troubles.
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guess you missed this part of my post, so I'll post it again.
And before anyone says "what do you want him to say at the presser that he think we're going to suck?!"
No... I want my head coach to be less blustery, especially after a piss poor season last year and focus on the here and now and stop making himself look silly by talking about getting a ring.
Does Bill Bellichek talk about rings before a season? How about Andy Reid? How about Greg Popovich? Do those guys NOT talking about rings before a season mean they're saying you're hypothetical "if they're not talking rings, this is what they'd be saying" drivel above?
No. Coach talking about rings before he's ever won ANYTHING and coming off a piss poor season is as stupid as your post above.
