Calais Campbell

[Cheesebeef]

Nope.

He got crazy money good for him. You always keep the younger guy

Why did it have to be one of the other? We are STILL under the cap significantly.

 

[GatorAZ]

This is one I won't hold against Keim even if CC produces in Jax. He's 31 and had a career season in a contract year. He needs to answer for the Nkemdiche pick though.

 

[TJ]

Letting this Cardinals legend go for Chandler Jones = another mega Steve Keim mistake

My brain hurts from all of the ignorance in this post

 

[Shaggy]

Miss him already. He had 4 sacks.

 

[Jasper]

I give CC props, the Jags might have a better record than we will this season. We will be in a rebuild next season for sure.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Omg. I just saw he had 4 sacks every player that leaves the Cardinals....succeeds Most of the time

 

[SeattleCard]

I miss CC!

 

[Chopper0080]

The problem is that the Cardinals have zero clue what type of team they want to be. They let Campbell go to essentially pay for a deeper roster and a TE they won't really use in Gresham. Instead of committing to being a defensive team, they wanted to be a balanced team. For those who say age played the part, the Seahawks paid Michael Bennett who is about the same age.

 

[TJ]

The problem is that the Cardinals have zero clue what type of team they want to be. They let Campbell go to essentially pay for a deeper roster and a TE they won't really use in Gresham. Instead of committing to being a defensive team, they wanted to be a balanced team. For those who say age played the part, the Seahawks paid Michael Bennett who is about the same age.

Except Jacksonville money-whipped Calais.

 

[Finito]

The problem is that the Cardinals have zero clue what type of team they want to be. They let Campbell go to essentially pay for a deeper roster and a TE they won't really use in Gresham. Instead of committing to being a defensive team, they wanted to be a balanced team. For those who say age played the part, the Seahawks paid Michael Bennett who is about the same age.

They actually didn't pay him he took less to stay. The Cardinals actually offered to pay him more than Bennett. I don't think people understand just how much money CC got.

Bennett
3 years, 30 million with 14 million guaranteed, 8 million signing bonus. 10 mill a year

CC
4 Years, 60 million with 30 million guaranteed. 6 million dollar signing bonus. 15 mill a year.

Those contracts aren't close not even in the same universe.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I said it on a post before and I will say it again, Jacksonville is loaded with some talent. Campbell deserves praise for his performance by all means but he is one on a overall great young unit and some appear to think he carried their defense today

 

[gmabel830]

Why did it have to be one of the other? We are STILL under the cap significantly.

You need to plan out your contract and cap management several years out. Guys like DJ, Humphries and Golden will need to be extended and you might be negotiating an extension with PP before Campbell's contract expires. Letting him move on waa a necessary long term move.

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[Cheesebeef]

You need to plan out your contract and cap management several years out. Guys like DJ, Humphries and Golden will need to be extended and you might be negotiating an extension with PP before Campbell's contract expires. Letting him move on waa a necessary long term move.

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The idea that we have to plan for a big contract for Humphries at the expense of our best D linemen seems silly to me considering a) he's never shown any consistent good play and b) can't stay healthy.

And again, we sat and did nothing with 11 mill in cap space.

 

[gmabel830]

The idea that we have to plan for a big contract for Humphries at the expense of our best D linemen seems silly to me considering a) he's never shown any consistent good play and b) can't stay healthy.

And again, we sat and did nothing with 11 mill in cap space.

If he develops into a quality LT, he will get paid.. a lot

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[Chopper0080]

The idea that we have to plan for a big contract for Humphries at the expense of our best D linemen seems silly to me considering a) he's never shown any consistent good play and b) can't stay healthy.

And again, we sat and did nothing with 11 mill in cap space.

The next contract that we even need to consider worrying about is Markus Golden. Humphries, Deone, and/or John Brown should not be reasons to consider not paying Campbell. They have shown nothing to make me think they should/will be worth a large dollar contract.

 

[Chopper0080]

He

If he develops into a quality LT, he will get paid.. a lot

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He has to play a full season first.
After that, he has to actually be good doing it.

He is running out of seasons to do this before his next contract is due.

 

[nashman]

It's not like he is gonna do that every game lol. The Texans are awful they gave up double digit sacks today Campbell is just part of a pretty good young team, but he is getting older and disappears sometimes. We will look back and say thank god we didn't give him that much money in the not so distant future!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The idea that we have to plan for a big contract for Humphries at the expense of our best D linemen seems silly to me considering a) he's never shown any consistent good play and b) can't stay healthy.

And again, we sat and did nothing with 11 mill in cap space.

100.

 

[GatorAZ]

I said it on a post before and I will say it again, Jacksonville is loaded with some talent. Campbell deserves praise for his performance by all means but he is one on a overall great young unit and some appear to think he carried their defense today

Hey, we have talent on the DL too. Robert Nkemdiche was a first rd pick!

 

[gmabel830]

Campbell got 30 mil guaranteed in his first two years.. and in years 3 and 4 he is making 12M and 15M (with larger cap hits due to signing bonus distribution. So, as you plan the team, you need to figure out if you can afford cap hits of like 14 and 17M in 2019 and 2020). If you can't, and you have to cut him to make room for extending someone else, then you are paying him 30M for 2 years and would have dead cap money to boot. Considering the impact in 2019/2020 is just as critical as considering the impact this year when determining how to allocate your big money contracts.

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[TJ]

11 mil in cap space couldn't keep Calais. Dude was long gone before the season ended. There was no way he could stay in AZ w/o him taking a huge hometown discount. Simply wasn't going to happen. Tough business, but that's why you don't fall in love with players; otherwise, you get hurt in the end.

Rooting for him to do well in Jacksonville, but remember, he's getting older and it's better to rid of a player a year early than a year late. I have a feeling that Jacksonville is going to regret that contract by 2019.

 

[kerouac9]

Campbell got 30 mil guaranteed in his first two years.. and in years 3 and 4 he is making 12M and 15M (with larger cap hits due to signing bonus distribution. So, as you plan the team, you need to figure out if you can afford cap hits of like 14 and 17M in 2019 and 2020). If you can't, and you have to cut him to make room for extending someone else, then you are paying him 30M for 2 years and would have dead cap money to boot. Considering the impact in 2019/2020 is just as critical as considering the impact this year when determining how to allocate your big money contracts.

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Why? This team is bad right now. You can't rush Matt Stanford with cap space in 2019.

 

[cardpa]

I said it on a post before and I will say it again, Jacksonville is loaded with some talent. Campbell deserves praise for his performance by all means but he is one on a overall great young unit and some appear to think he carried their defense today

Jetstream, thinking about what you stated here really ties into what CC meant to the Cardinal defense. HE was the only bona fide lineman on this team last year and his presence made it easier for the others to make plays etc. He was a big part of the success of the Dline. Now he's in Jax and he has some good young talent around him which allows him to make more plays and be a bigger impact player because now other teams can't just account for him alone like they did in AZ. Now they are hoping Niche can do the same thing CC did here for years. When you really look at this team, you see a house of cards. Key cards (no pun intended) are holding this house up. Pull the CC card without another card to replace it and you have no pass rush. Pull the DJ card with no card to replace it and you have no offense. This may be a bad analogy but my point is with all the depth this team is suppose to have, I don't see it. Notice you don't hear the next man up mantra anymore. A great example is last year teams had to deal with a pass rush of Campbell, Jones, and Golden. Now it's only Jones and Golden. Double one and chip the other pretty much guarantees you negate the Cardinal pass rush because there is no one else to fear at all. Keep Fitz and Johnson in check and who do you fear on the offense, Jaron Brown?, JJ Nelson?, Golden?, Niklas?, Gresham? The success of this team is tied to too few players without enough solid supporting players who can hurt the other team. YEs, there will be games where some of these guys will go off but don't expect that to happen week in and week out.

 

[Mitch]

Jetstream, thinking about what you stated here really ties into what CC meant to the Cardinal defense. HE was the only bona fide lineman on this team last year and his presence made it easier for the others to make plays etc. He was a big part of the success of the Dline. Now he's in Jax and he has some good young talent around him which allows him to make more plays and be a bigger impact player because now other teams can't just account for him alone like they did in AZ. Now they are hoping Niche can do the same thing CC did here for years. When you really look at this team, you see a house of cards. Key cards (no pun intended) are holding this house up. Pull the CC card without another card to replace it and you have no pass rush. Pull the DJ card with no card to replace it and you have no offense. This may be a bad analogy but my point is with all the depth this team is suppose to have, I don't see it. Notice you don't hear the next man up mantra anymore. A great example is last year teams had to deal with a pass rush of Campbell, Jones, and Golden. Now it's only Jones and Golden. Double one and chip the other pretty much guarantees you negate the Cardinal pass rush because there is no one else to fear at all. Keep Fitz and Johnson in check and who do you fear on the offense, Jaron Brown?, JJ Nelson?, Golden?, Niklas?, Gresham? The success of this team is tied to too few players without enough solid supporting players who can hurt the other team. YEs, there will be games where some of these guys will go off but don't expect that to happen week in and week out.

Outstanding post. You nailed it. House of Cards. Pull one out and the others fall.

This is why Steve Keim's off-season was so mystifying. Adding 3 veterans in their 30s was his answer to losing 12 of their own free agents. Counting on Nkemdiche and Gunter to fill CC's shoes...hmmm. Pretty big shoes to fill and neither Nkemdiche nor Gunter has proven they can be productive yet.

 

[Ronin]

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