Cam breaks the bank with a monster contract...

[Jetstream Green]

Hey Seattle... have fun signing Wilson
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cam-newtons-103-million-contract-215050196.html

 

[cardpa]

Hey Seattle... have fun signing Wilson
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cam-newtons-103-million-contract-215050196.html

Talk about overspending for a QB. Wow! Cam isn't even on the same level as Ryan, Rivers, Cutler, Romo, E. Manning, etc. He will be making as much as Rodgers. The Carolina leadership are idiots.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm in the camp that thinks Newton is pretty good. They need to get him some targets for him to throw to. He hasn't had a top notch WR(Steve Smith was on his last legs) to work with and was able to make Ted Ginn a viable receiving option in Carolina.

When your top receiving threat is TE Greg Olson, it's tough to put up monster numbers.

 

[juza76]

100 mil now is an average contract for a franchise qb

i can see russel wilson asking for 150 mil at this point,comparing his level of play to dalton,tannehill and newton

 

[oaken1]

the hags are going to regret jerking around with wilson

 

[Capital Card]

Talk about overspending for a QB. Wow! Cam isn't even on the same level as Ryan, Rivers, Cutler, Romo, E. Manning, etc. He will be making as much as Rodgers. The Carolina leadership are idiots.

I'll take Cam over Ryan and Cutler on your list, and maybe Eli.

As someone mentioned above, I think Cam suffers from a poor talent around him.

I think the NFL has reached a point where $100MM, just doesn't buy what it used to. It's become the going rate for a young, better than average QB.

 

[blindseyed]

the hags are going to regret jerking around with wilson

Their team will be Wilson, Sherman, Lynch (maybe) and then 3 rd stringers lol

 

[Zeno]

Talk about overspending for a QB. Wow! Cam isn't even on the same level as Ryan, Rivers, Cutler, Romo, E. Manning, etc. He will be making as much as Rodgers. The Carolina leadership are idiots.

I'd take Cam over Cutler and Romo (and E. Manning in non-Super Bowl years).

 

[Ronin]

Good for Cam.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I'd take Cam over Cutler and Romo (and E. Manning in non-Super Bowl years).

Not just no.

 

[kerouac9]

http://overthecap.com/closer-look-at-cam-newtons-contract/

The structure of Newton's extension is almost identical to that of Matt Ryan, who's contract is two years old. Good deal for both sides. Cam is a stud.

 

[Zeno]

Not just no.

Really? You'd rather have a 35 yr old injury prone Tony Romo or a guy who never has been and never will be a leader in Jay Cutler over Newton? Not me.

I think Newton in OUR offense would be super productive....but that point is moot now anyway, he is Carolina for the long term.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Cutler SUCKS! Romo is damn good....Newton is damn good, but has NO O line to protect him...and his WR's suck. He's a one man show...and without him that stadium would be empty. That entire organization is a joke....but better them than us.

 

[kerouac9]

Really? You'd rather have a 35 yr old injury prone Tony Romo or a guy who never has been and never will be a leader in Jay Cutler over Newton? Not me.

I think Newton in OUR offense would be super productive....but that point is moot now anyway, he is Carolina for the long term.

I'd rather have Romo than Cam, but I'd rather have Cam than Cutler.

Romo is a Top 8 quarterback in the NFL.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Really? You'd rather have a 35 yr old injury prone Tony Romo or a guy who never has been and never will be a leader in Jay Cutler over Newton? Not me.

Sure would. I have seen enough of Newton to know he just doesn't have it. He is Derek Anderson with mobility. IMO he is a bottom 10 starting QB in this league. Hell, I'd rather have Alex Smith than Newton.

 

[TJ]

Sure would. I have seen enough of Newton to know he just doesn't have it. He is Derek Anderson with mobility. IMO he is a bottom 10 starting QB in this league. Hell, I'd rather have Alex Smith than Newton.

His legs make him a top 12-18 QB in the league, but in terms of pure passing, he's mediocre at best. He doesn't have much touch on the ball and even when his feet are set, he doesn't necessarily make the best throws. During the Cards playoff game, I remember times when he had no pressure and open receivers; yet, his pass either went off to the side or was airmailed.

But, for mid-tier QBs, $20+mil/season is the going rate. If the college game could produce more pro-ready QBs, teams wouldn't be impulsed to settle for this amount of production out of fear. Unfortunately, that seems unlikely given the number of read option offenses in college.

 

[kerouac9]

Sure would. I have seen enough of Newton to know he just doesn't have it. He is Derek Anderson with mobility. IMO he is a bottom 10 starting QB in this league. Hell, I'd rather have Alex Smith than Newton.

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[82CardsGrad]

http://overthecap.com/closer-look-at-cam-newtons-contract/

The structure of Newton's extension is almost identical to that of Matt Ryan, who's contract is two years old. Good deal for both sides. Cam is a stud.

I wouldn't go so far as to call Cam a "stud"... But, he is very good and really, what other option did the Panthers have? No good ones that's for sure...

Just crazy how much $$ is being paid to these guys now.

 

[TJ]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Cam a "stud"... But, he is very good and really, what other option did the Panthers have? No good ones that's for sure...

Just crazy how much $$ is being paid to these guys now.

Former pro bowler Derek Anderson

 

[Russ Smith]

Cutler SUCKS! Romo is damn good....Newton is damn good, but has NO O line to protect him...and his WR's suck. He's a one man show...and without him that stadium would be empty. That entire organization is a joke....but better them than us.

He's a much better NFL player than I expected. But the numbers from last year suggest part of all those sacks is on him. He got sacked 38 times in about 450 attempts, Derek "freaking" Anderson got sacked 4 times in almost 100 attempts. And Anderson had a higher passer rating, completion %, YPA etc.

What sets Newton apart of course is his ability to run, which is why if you're Carolina this is a risk. He's a very good QB, but he runs often, and even as big as he is, history says QB's who run often either learn to be productive without running, or they have a shorter career.

he's an interesting guy, his rushing numbers are coming down, his passing numbers are staying the same. I agree with better talent around him he'd look better but I do wonder is he going to make that transition from needing to run to be good to not needing to run to stay good?

But as others have said, 100 million these days for QB is not a bad deal, worth paying Newton and seeing if he gets better.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

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Or I call it how I see it. Depends on what side you are on apparently.

 

[kerouac9]

Or I call it how I see it. Depends on what side you are on apparently.

Not really. He beat out Matt Ryan and Drew Brees to win his second consecutive NFC South title--I think the first time a team has gone back-to-back championships in that division in history. His top receiver is his tight end, and none of his wideouts would have started on any other team in his division.

You can make a legit argument that Cam Newton might be a Bottom 10 passer in the NFL, but he'd definitely start for at least half of the teams in the NFL.

Including ours.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Not really. He beat out Matt Ryan and Drew Brees to win his second consecutive NFC South title--I think the first time a team has gone back-to-back championships in that division in history. His top receiver is his tight end, and none of his wideouts would have started on any other team in his division.

You can make a legit argument that Cam Newton might be a Bottom 10 passer in the NFL, but he'd definitely start for at least half of the teams in the NFL.

Including ours.

So using that logic, he is a better QB than Ryan or Brees?

With the second paragraph, you almost seem to agree with me.

I'm also not sure he'd start over Palmer.

 

[kerouac9]

So using that logic, he is a better QB than Ryan or Brees?

With the second paragraph, you almost seem to agree with me.

I'm also not sure he'd start over Palmer.

I didn't say that. I think that he's on the same level as Matt Ryan (hence the contract), but not as good as Drew Brees, who is probably a Hall of Fame quarterback. But the Carolina Panthers won the NFC South somehow, and while their defense was solid, they weren't dominant--16th in DVOA

There's a difference between being a pure passer (like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning) and being a starting QB in the NFL. Andrew Luck isn't a great pure passer yet, but he's among the top 10 or 12 quarterbacks in the NFL because of the whole package he delivers.

You can make an argument that Newton isn't among the top 22 passers in the NFL--it'd be an argument that I'd disagree with, but you could make it. That said, I'm not sure there are more than 10 teams in the league that--if money wasn't a factor--wouldn't trade their current starter for Newton right now.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Come on ...dude had NO O line protection. Every game I saw him in he was running for his life. He didn't have anywhere near the 3 seconds needed. It was SNAP...O NO RUNNNNNNN!! It was if Levi Brown was playing LT, LG, C, RG, and RT.