Cam gets the wimp award

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Cam is exactly who I thought he was, someone who got too much credit for carrying this team to a Super Bowl when it was the defense and his Oline that carried this team. When Denver stonewalled the Carolina run game and put pressure on Cam he wilted. What we saw tonight was circa 2014 Cam Newton. Put pressure on him and he cannot handle it. Then you get the sulking and immaturity that has been his trademark for years. I actually think he underestimated the Denver defense and thought he was going to throw a couple TD passes and run for one or two scores and be celebrating midway through the third quarter.

I would also bet he had some sort of celebration planned and practiced that he never got to pull out. He quit just like he has in so many other games. He is not the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and carry them to victory and I doubt he ever will be. He will not learn from this experience because he hasn't learned from similar ones before this game.
 

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Cam is exactly who I thought he was, someone who got too much credit for carrying this team to a Super Bowl when it was the defense and his Oline that carried this team. When Denver stonewalled the Carolina run game and put pressure on Cam he wilted. What we saw tonight was circa 2014 Cam Newton. Put pressure on him and he cannot handle it. Then you get the sulking and immaturity that has been his trademark for years. I actually think he underestimated the Denver defense and thought he was going to throw a couple TD passes and run for one or two scores and be celebrating midway through the third quarter.

I would also bet he had some sort of celebration planned and practiced that he never got to pull out. He quit just like he has in so many other games. He is not the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and carry them to victory and I doubt he ever will be. He will not learn from this experience because he hasn't learned from similar ones before this game.


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Count on Cam issuing a statement, or doing another interview sometime soon, where he will be the smiley, everything is all good Cam. He'll apologize for his presser, but will say he cared sooo much and his love and passion for the game and for his players got the best of him. He'll talk about it as a learning experience and that next year, he'll be even stronger & better...
Blah, blah, blah...
But the vision of him pulling away from his own fumble will remain. Heartless, gutless... Cam is a sham...
 

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His presser right now is making him look like even more of a bitch than that one play.

Is anybody watching his post game interview in front of the media where he's wearing his hoodie and closing his eyes and shaking his head looking all drawn out and sad and basically acting like a baby?

OMG right it's BAD

He just walked out. Couldn't handle the questions.

For all of the talk about becoming a more mature person and player, it's up for debate once again.
Remembering the Cam race hate thread that ended up in the P & R, scenes like this is why some just flat ass don't like him. Nothing to do with race in this moment. Just him being a ****. Arrogance vs humility. Now his excuse is that he overheard a Bronco player's interview who was talking about the game plan to force him to throw. He couldn't handle the analysis. Big Baby.

PS his rolling on the ground temper tantrum directed at the non call when he was knocked on his ass in the end zone was classic Cam. Maybe Ed Hercules was right.
 

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Cam is exactly who I thought he was, someone who got too much credit for carrying this team to a Super Bowl when it was the defense and his Oline that carried this team. When Denver stonewalled the Carolina run game and put pressure on Cam he wilted. What we saw tonight was circa 2014 Cam Newton. Put pressure on him and he cannot handle it. Then you get the sulking and immaturity that has been his trademark for years. I actually think he underestimated the Denver defense and thought he was going to throw a couple TD passes and run for one or two scores and be celebrating midway through the third quarter.

I would also bet he had some sort of celebration planned and practiced that he never got to pull out. He quit just like he has in so many other games. He is not the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and carry them to victory and I doubt he ever will be. He will not learn from this experience because he hasn't learned from similar ones before this game.

Thank you my sentiments exactly
As far as the race thing, I'm hearing "some people" don't like him cuz he's black....who are these people?? If that's the case then there are "some people" saying something white about Peyton then I guess? Not once have I even thought about the race of Cam until it was brought up by the "experts" and it just made me turn everything off.
Cam is a baby, his true self was exposed under pressure that's it
 

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Thank you my sentiments exactly
As far as the race thing, I'm hearing "some people" don't like him cuz he's black....who are these people?? If that's the case then there are "some people" saying something white about Peyton then I guess? Not once have I even thought about the race of Cam until it was brought up by the "experts" and it just made me turn everything off.
Cam is a baby, his true self was exposed under pressure that's it
I don't believe that anyone on this board necessarily hates him because he is black, but it is quite naive to assume that he doesn't at least get some hate because of his race. After all there are still plenty of racist people out there and just because they aren't in your circles doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 

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I don't believe that anyone on this board necessarily hates him because he is black, but it is quite naive to assume that he doesn't at least get some hate because of his race. After all there are still plenty of racist people out there and just because they aren't in your circles doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Yes there are. They are called rascists. But when you cant tell who are they are because cam acts like an a** then maybe the problem is cam. Trying to make his crappy behavior a race issue is racism.

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Was that Josh Norman sobbing uncontrollably post game?

BTW, watching Dan Patrick Show right now and Dan is the ultimate apologist for Cammie. Might be looking for a future guest shot.
 

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Yes there are. They are called rascists. But when you cant tell who are they are because cam acts like an a** then maybe the problem is cam. Trying to make his crappy behavior a race issue is racism.

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Sure Cam has done more than enough to get people to dislike him, but it's not as simple as calling anyone who let's race get involved "racists". The simple fact is that a lot of the people that let race play a role don't even realize they are doing it. It usually presents itself with a lesser tolerance for said individual than someone with a different race or something similar to that. I am not racist, but I can guarantee that at some point in time I have allowed race to influence my decision on something before, as I think we all do it to some extent whether we realize it or not. That being said it doesn't somehow suggest that you are letting race get involved if you don't like Cam, but there are people that do and they may not even realize it.
 

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Not diving on the ball is nearly inexplicable I don't know how that even happens.

To me the thought that pops into my head watching that is the game was fixed. That's just what popped into my head.

A lot are calling him a wimp for that but he runs and gets hit all the time. I guess that' could be it, or he could be just trying to play a bounce, heck I don't know I've never in my life seen anything like it honestly.
 

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Hell, Palmer played like doo doo in the NFC Champ game and faced the press with no reservations.

THAT's a leader.


I was telling my wife this morning how Scott Norwood, after missing a Super Bowl winning FG sat there and took questions like a man. Cam showed himself to be a petulant little child.


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If he's gonna act this way after the loss, I got no issue with people giving him crap. Still doesn't mean that I don't think race plays a factor in some of the hate directed towards him.


So you're saying that people wouldn't be coming down on him like this if he were white? Are you paying attention to the flak Manziel is getting?


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I am someone who can`t stand Cam NewtonI don`t like " Look at me type" players.I didn`t like Mark Gastenieu and his sack dance.I understand some guys getting excited sometimes but flapping around dancing pontificating bowing etc is way over the top for me.I always think along the "act like a pro" routine.A generational thing on my part being older.Just saying the self promotional grandstanding is not my favorite.The fact that Newton is black just means to me that he is a black player who acts in a manner in which I don`t like.No more no less.
 

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I am sure there are a number of people out there that just don't like Cam Newton because he is Black. There is no doubt that somewhere in America a certain segment don't like him because of his color. There is also a certain segment that don't like people because they are Asian, Indian, Hispanic, Gay, Lesbian, etc. I believe you will find a certain segment of the Black community don't like White people either as well as the other ones I mentioned. This is reality in America. Some are so hard core about it, you will never changed their opinion. It may be sad commentary but it's the truth. What I have a problem with is when people use it as leverage to forward their agenda that really has nothing to do with racism.
 

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I love Russel Wilson. My favorite golfer was Tiger. My favorite basketball player of all time is Michael Jordon. Cam is an immature, classes punk. Nothing racist about it. Thanks for the #camtrum.

How about Larry Fitzgerald or Tim Duncan?

You could say Cam is over the top and draws too much attention to himself or you can say he is just having fun. Either way, he opens himself up to criticism due to his style when he is winning and now his style when he loses. He is immensely talented but I lost respect for him by not selling out to jump on that ball and the way he handled the loss (on and off the field).
 

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Cam is exactly who I thought he was, someone who got too much credit for carrying this team to a Super Bowl when it was the defense and his Oline that carried this team. When Denver stonewalled the Carolina run game and put pressure on Cam he wilted. What we saw tonight was circa 2014 Cam Newton. Put pressure on him and he cannot handle it. Then you get the sulking and immaturity that has been his trademark for years. I actually think he underestimated the Denver defense and thought he was going to throw a couple TD passes and run for one or two scores and be celebrating midway through the third quarter.

I would also bet he had some sort of celebration planned and practiced that he never got to pull out. He quit just like he has in so many other games. He is not the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and carry them to victory and I doubt he ever will be. He will not learn from this experience because he hasn't learned from similar ones before this game.

Man for a dude who went 17-2 with crappy wrs who put up extraordinary numbers this is overly ridiculously harsh.
 

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Man for a dude who went 17-2 with crappy wrs who put up extraordinary numbers this is overly ridiculously harsh.

Ppl like to go overboard in these situations. It's like Cardinal fans on the post game show saying we should move on from Palmer after his nfccg performance.
 

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So you're saying that people wouldn't be coming down on him like this if he were white? Are you paying attention to the flak Manziel is getting?


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Two WAY different creatures. Yes they both celebrate on the field and draw attention to themselves. But can wins and Manziel doesn't. Cams never had drug or booze issues mar his professional career. Hasn't had run-ins with the law and been seen partying mid-week mid-season like manziel. To compare them is just asinine. And just shows your bias against cam.

Look, I'm coming off as an apologist for cam. I'm not. I couldn't believe he didn't dive in the ball. Immediately thought it was potentially a career-defining moment (until he doesn't something more career-defining). And I don't buy into the whole "he's too passionate and cares too much" excuses writers are making for his post-game antics (everyone has emotions. Adults know how to control them and be professionals). But I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't take him in a minute. And I think most of you would too if you were honest with yourselves. And most importantly, I think BASK would snatch him up if possible without even thinking. He's a great player. Likely going to become better. He needs to grow up. Last night was putrid. But lord knows as cardinals fans we've seen putrid before.
 

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Man for a dude who went 17-2 with crappy wrs who put up extraordinary numbers this is overly ridiculously harsh.

Agreed and you have many people on this board that said the same thing about Palmer.

Newton played extremely well this year and is clearly the NFL MVP. He got his team to the Super Bowl and lost...no shame in that. He has a very long and successful career ahead of him.
 

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Agreed and you have many people on this board that said the same thing about Palmer.

Newton played extremely well this year and is clearly the NFL MVP. He got his team to the Super Bowl and lost...no shame in that. He has a very long and successful career ahead of him.

There is no shame in that agreed. But there should definitely be Shame in his lack of effort and heart not going after that fumble first and foremost... His childlike temper tantrum in the in zone where he threw his body back on the ground like a baby. And in his post game immature antics all completely ridiculous and shame worthy. He's a 26-year-old grown man who's been in the league for five years there is no excuse for it and I don't buy the "he's young BS"...
 
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Can we just drop the "Some people don't like Cam Newton because he is black" thing? While that may be true, I am pretty sure that isn't on this board and it ruins the conversation.
 

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Sure Cam has done more than enough to get people to dislike him, but it's not as simple as calling anyone who let's race get involved "racists". The simple fact is that a lot of the people that let race play a role don't even realize they are doing it. It usually presents itself with a lesser tolerance for said individual than someone with a different race or something similar to that. I am not racist, but I can guarantee that at some point in time I have allowed race to influence my decision on something before, as I think we all do it to some extent whether we realize it or not. That being said it doesn't somehow suggest that you are letting race get involved if you don't like Cam, but there are people that do and they may not even realize it.

Quality post.

Every single human beings has prejudices at some level.
 

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"They want to be famous. We want to be champions. They want to be rappers and backup dancers. We want to play football." -Broncos safety TJ Ward

It's not just Cam...it's the entire team. The Panthers did this to themselves...it wasn't a one-person show.
 
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