Can D'Antoni Make the Knicks a Running Team?

[Mainstreet]

It appears D'Antoni will try to make the Knicks a running team like the Suns were. I'm excited about the Suns now so I really don't want this to turn into a kick D'Antoni thread. And yes, I know the article does not mention defense. I'm just wondering if D'Antoni can get the Knicks to succeed on offense with his style.

D'Antoni is only going one way - fast - and it'll be up to his players to keep up. Or, as he put it: "Who can come with us, comes with us."....

D'Antoni said there will be some tweaks, but his main principles will remain the same. That means the Knicks - a team that barely practiced late last season - will have to be in superb condition to handle the pace D'Antoni will have them play at.

See article written by by Brian Mahoney an AP Basketball Writer dated 9-30-08 at link:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2008/09/30/20080930spt-dantoni.html

 

[mojorizen7]

I really don't want this to turn into a kick D'Antoni thread.

Then I will not contribute`to it.

 

[HooverDam]

I think D'Antoni will try to get them to run this year, but have very limited success. Once he and the new front office are able to find more guys (like Gallianari) who fit his system, he'll have more success. Right now he's got oafs like Curry and Randolph slowing him down.

Also, anyone see his quote about Curry? A reporter asked him if he had heard Curry had been sick and vomiting and D'Antoni said "good, vomiting is a good way to lose weight"

 

[arwillan]

he doesn't have the great finishers he had here. he doesn't have a great distributor like he had here (though if marbury plays at a high level, he is a very good point guard). He doesn't have the frontcourt athleticism he had here. i don't think he can make the knicks anywhere near as good as he had the suns. gallinari is also looking like a real bust.

 

[scotsman13]

i dont think that there is anyway to get zack to run even if you are behind him with a cattle prod.

 

[Mainstreet]

he doesn't have the great finishers he had here. he doesn't have a great distributor like he had here (though if marbury plays at a high level, he is a very good point guard). He doesn't have the frontcourt athleticism he had here. i don't think he can make the knicks anywhere near as good as he had the suns. gallinari is also looking like a real bust.

This is exactly the point I was trying to get make. I really don't think D'Antoni has the type players in New York to run his system. I would have thought the Knicks would have tried to make more trades or something to address the personnel issues. Apparently they are going to try to make it work. I can't help but be intrigued about the situation because the players and system appear like oil and water.... they don't mix. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[msdundee]

Sounds like they're off to a slow start:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...vLYF?slug=aw-knicks092908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[Mainstreet]

Sounds like they're off to a slow start:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...vLYF?slug=aw-knicks092908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

It's clear Marbury doesn't get it or much more likely he doesn't want to get it. However, Marbury was never the right PG to run D'Antoni's system. They need to buy out his contract and consider it addition by subtraction. It looks like D'Antoni took over as captain of the Titanic but he knew it going in. He would have been so right for the Chicago job.

 

[nowagimp]

It's clear Marbury doesn't get it or much more likely he doesn't want to get it. However, Marbury was never the right PG to run D'Antoni's system. They need to buy out his contract and consider it addition by subtraction. It looks like D'Antoni took over as captain of the Titanic but he knew it going in. He would have been so right for the Chicago job.

One of the best moves BC ever made was dumping marburys contract. 20+ mil for a psycho shoot first PG with faded one on one skills. It could also be said that BC signed him to that contract.

 

[Superbone]

he doesn't have the great finishers he had here. he doesn't have a great distributor like he had here (though if marbury plays at a high level, he is a very good point guard).

Marbury was never able to make D'Antoni's system work when he played for us. I don't see how he's going to get it now.

 

[da_suns_fan]

Marbury was never able to make D'Antoni's system work when he played for us. I don't see how he's going to get it now.

Thats not really fair. D'Antoni replaced Frank Johnson 1/3 of the way into the season IIRC, and Marbury and Penny were traded about 1/2 way through the season.

 

[shazaam6]

How are the New York Knicks players going to treat the 6 million dollar man/coach?
Who wins when the Stubborn Stache clashes with Starbury.
This could get messy and expensive.

 

[arwillan]

Marbury was never able to make D'Antoni's system work when he played for us. I don't see how he's going to get it now.

i didn't say he could make it work, i was just saying he is a very good point guard when he wants to be

 

[cly2tw]

Marbury did nothing but valuable contributions to the Suns, whether with his play and attitude or as a trading asset. We almost eliminated Spurs in Amare's rookie season, if not for Stephen's untimely shoulder injury. I just don't understand some people's hatred against him for his Suns' time.

 

[Superbone]

Thats not really fair. D'Antoni replaced Frank Johnson 1/3 of the way into the season IIRC, and Marbury and Penny were traded about 1/2 way through the season.

All I know is that when D'Antoni took over, he tried to get Marbury to push the ball up court but he was either unable to or unwilling to do so.

 

[Superbone]

Marbury did nothing but valuable contributions to the Suns, whether with his play and attitude or as a trading asset. We almost eliminated Spurs in Amare's rookie season, if not for Stephen's untimely shoulder injury. I just don't understand some people's hatred against him for his Suns' time.

I don't have any hatred for Marbury in his time with the Suns. I'm just saying that he's not a push the ball type point guard.

 

[NBAFanAddict]

He will make them run. Will they be a good running team? No.

 

[NBAFanAddict]

Plus, Marbury's days in NY are numbered...

 

[Irish]

Plus, Marbury's days in NY are numbered...

He's on the last year of his contract, so I'd have to agree.

 

[nowagimp]

He's on the last year of his contract, so I'd have to agree.

Yep an expiring contract worth 21M. I'll bet the knick GM donnie walsh can trade starbury later in the year, and they wont have to offer a #1 pick either.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Marbury did nothing but valuable contributions to the Suns, whether with his play and attitude or as a trading asset. We almost eliminated Spurs in Amare's rookie season, if not for Stephen's untimely shoulder injury. I just don't understand some people's hatred against him for his Suns' time.

I agree and disagree. Marbury played his heart out here, and was surprisingly good on the defensive end for us.

Almost beat the Spurs? You mean the series where we won one game and Marbury hit a half courter and Amare hit a 3?

 

[Mainstreet]

Marbury did nothing but valuable contributions to the Suns, whether with his play and attitude or as a trading asset. We almost eliminated Spurs in Amare's rookie season, if not for Stephen's untimely shoulder injury. I just don't understand some people's hatred against him for his Suns' time.

I liked Marbury when he was with the Suns because I genuinely think he tried hard to make work. It's just that Marbury was not a pure pass first PG. Also the Suns wanted a PG to push the ball which simply was not his game. However, after Marbury left Phoenix things really went downhill. Looking back, Marbury was in his best situation in Minnesota and he didn't realize it.

 

[nowagimp]

Marbury did nothing but valuable contributions to the Suns, whether with his play and attitude or as a trading asset. We almost eliminated Spurs in Amare's rookie season, if not for Stephen's untimely shoulder injury. I just don't understand some people's hatred against him for his Suns' time.

Damn, I didnt see this post. On planet earth, Marbury was/is a middling shoot first PG who hogged the ball and has/had one of the worst contracts in suns history. So, he abused a young 20? year old tony parker in the playoffs once, while hogging the ball down the stretch and taking almost all the shots. Marburys defense stinks and his propensity to hog the ball in the stretch meant that if he was on, he had to win the game by himself, and if he was off, you lose to even bad teams.

 

[Irish]

Once Stephon got his extension, it seemed like he regressed. His stats always looked better than his on the floor performance.

 

[cly2tw]

I agree and disagree. Marbury played his heart out here, and was surprisingly good on the defensive end for us.

Almost beat the Spurs? You mean the series where we won one game and Marbury hit a half courter and Amare hit a 3?

I recall that we led that series 2:1 with that Amare banking 3pt.