Can we blame Vogel?

[Hoop Head]

ive compiled a list of all available and possible college and nba head coaches/assistants that would NOT want to coach the big 3:

Scott Brooks
Frank Vogel
Steve Nash
Monty Williams
Kevin Young
Kenny Atkinson

There's a good number of them. There's a reason you don't see anyone campaigning for the position.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Scott Brooks
Frank Vogel
Steve Nash
Monty Williams
Kevin Young
Kenny Atkinson

There's a good number of them. There's a reason you don't see anyone campaigning for the position.

Frank Vogel doesn't want to coach the big 3?

 

[Hoop Head]

Frank Vogel doesn't want to coach the big 3?

Can we call what he did last season coaching?

 

[Hoop Head]

Haven't seen anything confirming this, but another board is saying that our favorite pundit Flex from Jersey is saying Frank Vogel IS REMAINING AS COACH IN 2024-2025.

Colossally stupid move.

Not shooting the messenger, just wanted to point how unreliable Flex is. First he said Vogel was staying and then he backpedaled some and said if Vogel is fired it will happen Monday or Tuesday. It's Thursday, Vogel is gone. Flex is and always will be a con artist who happened to get 1 thing right and rode that into a career.

 

[Chaplin]

Not shooting the messenger, just wanted to point how unreliable Flex is. First he said Vogel was staying and then he backpedaled some and said if Vogel is fired it will happen Monday or Tuesday. It's Thursday, Vogel is gone. Flex is and always will be a con artist who happened to get 1 thing right and rode that into a career.

You're not wrong.

 

[Covert Rain]

You're not wrong.

Meanwhile, Gambo at 12:04 PM knew something was up and posted that something would happen in the next 24-48 hours. Happened a little quicker but he obviously heard something.

 

[Mainstreet]

IMO, Frank Vogel was the wrong choice for the Suns head coach, but it's not all on him.

There is a lot of blame to go around.

Look at all the moves made since Mat Ishbia took over ownership 15 months ago.

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[95pro]

IMO, Frank Vogel was the wrong choice for the Suns head coach, but it's not all on him.

There is a lot of blame to go around.

Look at all the moves made since Mat Ishbia took over ownership 15 months ago.

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So do you still think those are JJs decisions?

 

[bk3000]

Was Frank Vogel really the problem with the Suns? Or were the real problems: 1 No real point guard on the roster, and a non-rebounding two guard playing the point position with no great ability to do so. 2. Little basket protection and poor rebounding because the team lacked a power forward. 3. A weak bench. 4. Bad chemistry because the two star players spent much of the games yelling at and scowling at their teammates. This team does not need a new coach. The team needs a different mix of players, including a good power forward and a real point guard, along with an attitude adjustment from its two most noted players.

 

[Mainstreet]

So do you still think those are JJs decisions?

Both.

IMO, James Jones and Mat Ishbia were on the same page.

 

[nashman]

Was Frank Vogel really the problem with the Suns? Or were the real problems: 1 No real point guard on the roster, and a non-rebounding two guard playing the point position with no great ability to do so. 2. Little basket protection and poor rebounding because the team lacked a power forward. 3. A weak bench. 4. Bad chemistry because the two star players spent much of the games yelling at and scowling at their teammates. This team does not need a new coach. The team needs a different mix of players, including a good power forward and a real point guard, along with an attitude adjustment from its two most noted players.

What the hell were young watching all year lol….

 

[Chaplin]

Was Frank Vogel really the problem with the Suns? Or were the real problems: 1 No real point guard on the roster, and a non-rebounding two guard playing the point position with no great ability to do so. 2. Little basket protection and poor rebounding because the team lacked a power forward. 3. A weak bench. 4. Bad chemistry because the two star players spent much of the games yelling at and scowling at their teammates. This team does not need a new coach. The team needs a different mix of players, including a good power forward and a real point guard, along with an attitude adjustment from its two most noted players.

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