Can't defend Warner any more.

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He's my favorite player and I'm grateful for the memories he's given me but I can't defend him any more. He's had all the opportunities he could ask for with the Cardinals and he's just making bad decisions.

I hope he pulls his head out but I can't honestly try and stick up for him when he's being a bone head. This is against an average St. Louis defense at this point.

Not to mention, Warner will now be known from now on for his flashback throw to Coakley in the end zone. Pitiful and embarassing.
 

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F Warner!!! His lame ass was playing for the rams today. I NEVER want to see him in a cards uniform again!!!!!
 

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moklerman said:
He's my favorite player and I'm grateful for the memories he's given me but I can't defend him any more. He's had all the opportunities he could ask for with the Cardinals and he's just making bad decisions.
You know it's bad when Molker comes out with a post like this.

Start Leinart next week.
 

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As a former UNI student I was hoping for the best.

Being the reason the team lost is the polar opposite.

This team has been very disapointing this year.

I an just about as mad as I've ever been.
 

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I'm so mad right now I can't believe it.

Luckily i took tomorrow off to go fishing so I don't have to sit at work all day thinking about this loss.

I say it's getting close to Leinart time but Green has to know if he does that he might not be the coach next year unless Matt is ready.
 

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I think that fumbled snap was knocked out by one of our linemen...did anyone see that or was it just me?

He got the ball in his hands, then the right guard or whatever, pulled and was going behind the center, his hand hit the ball.
 
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Warner's had some bad luck in his career but he single handedly lost this game today. That's unforgivable. Edge had about 100 yards, the o-line played as good as ever, I don't even think they had any procedure penalties. There were a couple of early drops by Fitz and Quan but all in all a pretty good effort by 32 of the 33 players on the Card's 3 units.

Warner looked like a clown out there and I don't see any benefit for the Cardinals to keep starting him. He is supposed to provide veteran leadership, professionalism and savvy to the Card's to give them a chance to win right now. At this point, it would be better to start Leinart and have a good backup in Warner. He can tutor Matt and try and help him through whatever struggles he might have.

This team will no longer play for Warner.
 

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Losses hurt but this is just sick.

Have this to think about all week.

Warner just can't be left in there much longer. This performance was a disgrace.
 

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management won't let Matt play cuz then they would have to pay him the escalators in his contract
 

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Chandler Mike said:
I think that fumbled snap was knocked out by one of our linemen...did anyone see that or was it just me?

He got the ball in his hands, then the right guard or whatever, pulled and was going behind the center, his hand hit the ball.

Yeah I saw it. Brown hit the ball.
 

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Chandler Mike said:
I think that fumbled snap was knocked out by one of our linemen...did anyone see that or was it just me?

He got the ball in his hands, then the right guard or whatever, pulled and was going behind the center, his hand hit the ball.

All I know is the ball was completely in Warners hands and was not a bad snap by Step what so ever. It was either a lineman or gust of wind that made Warner fumble.
 

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joeshmo said:
All I know is the ball was completely in Warners hands and was not a bad snap by Step what so ever. It was either a lineman or gust of wind that made Warner fumble.
When Warner was on the sidleine yelling at Step it looked like he was complaining that the snap was late. That would make sense if Brown knocked it out on a pull.
 

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F KURT WARNER. I have never seen a more disgraceful performance. Then the dude has the nerve to yell at his center when, upon replay the ball was in his hands? F this dude. He needs to be on the next bus to St. Louis because its obvious his heart is still there. Oh and I'm sending himn the Dr. bill for my broken hand and the cost of materials to fix my wall.
 

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The cynic in me thinks he is still on the Ram payroll.

That was a disgraceful performance. 80% Warner's fault, 10% the CB's, 5% officiating, and 5% coaching. Warner should donate his game check to losers incorporated. That was just an utterly disgraceful performance. If he was in college, he'd be carrying around a football all week for pathetic ball security.

One more thing. What is it with Arrington? Does he thinks he has to always bring the ball out even when it's 5 yards deep in the end zone?
 

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They talked about it...I wonder if that INT to the Rams player was really him thinking he was throwing to his teammate....a little flashback problem.
 

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Even if it was a lineman's hand that knocked the ball out, it's warner's fault that it was in a position for that to happen. Shouldn't have happened.
 

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I have watched it 3 times now and I can tell you it was not Warner. Step got stood up drove back into him as soon as he snapped the ball.

Warner played terrible and, to me, was the reason for this loss, but this was not Warner's fault.
 

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I was upset at first when the Cards signed Kurt. I HATED the Rams, and still do. After a few weeks of pondering, I'm deep, I decided he was all right. He could lead us to heights unimaginable. After today I hate the dude twice as much. If I were him, after the game, I would have headed straight to the locker room. I wouldn't shake any Rams players' hands. He is emotionally tied to that team and plays like a douche against them. Pack your bags Kurt. If Leinart isn't starting soon, Denny needs to make some travel arrangements too. F you Kurt. F you.
 

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I have rewatched it several times, I just don't see any of our linemen knocking the ball out of Warner's hands. Warner botched it all on his own from my view.
 

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Pariah said:
You know it's bad when Molker comes out with a post like this.

Start Leinart next week.

Starting a rookie on the road. Don't think so.
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
I have watched it 3 times now and I can tell you it was not Warner. Step got stood up drove back into him as soon as he snapped the ball.

Warner played terrible and, to me, was the reason for this loss, but this was not Warner's fault.

Warner had the ball in his hands right? In his possession? Would any opther QB drop that? You can't answer that, but if you look at the numbers... Chances are Kurt does.
 

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Starting a rookie on the road. Don't think so.

What does it matter anymore? Did you see the looks on the faces of the players after the game? They were pissed for good reason.
 

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Chandler Mike said:
They talked about it...I wonder if that INT to the Rams player was really him thinking he was throwing to his teammate....a little flashback problem.

I think that was the worst interception I've ever seen. Honestly.

I so badly wanted for Leinart to sit on the bench for a year and just get used to the pro game.

But that pick right there may cause enough of a backlash that KW will get benched sooner than later.

I don't care what was promised to KW. You can be throw three picks a game (two inside FG range) and expect to keep your job. It's not going to happen.
 
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