Cardinals' 2018 Retool is On and QBOF is Off

[GatorAZ]

I like Cousins but don't think we can compete with other teams (that have much more cap space) to sign him. Cards have $27 million, Browns have over $100 million and Jets have $80 million and both teams need a qb.

Difference is those teams will have their pick of a franchise guy. The Cards won too many games and will fall short. After the last two drafts; Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky were all traded up for. Teams at the top won't be making the mistake again.

 

[oaken1]

Difference is those teams will have their pick of a franchise guy. The Cards won too many games and will fall short. After the last two drafts; Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky were all traded up for. Teams at the top won't be making the mistake again.

cleveland could sign Cousins,... then sign Leveon Bell...use the draft on Joe Thomas's replacement at LT and either a guy like Vita Vea or Billy Price
maybe sign Jarvis Landry

Cleveland could be really good next season if they play this right. with the young guys they have, 2 top 5 picks, and $118mil in cap space?

I still dont think they will draft a QB at 1...too big of a risk for their GM.

 

[Buckybird]

I still dont think they will draft a QB at 1...too big of a risk for their GM.

They could go Barkley #1, then draft a QB at #4.

Or

Barkley #1, Rowquan Smith at #4 then get Cousins or Smith at QB. That could propel them to good things even if the QB doesn’t pay off huge

 

[oaken1]

They could go Barkley #1, then draft a QB at #4.

Or

Barkley #1, Rowquan Smith at #4 then get Cousins or Smith at QB. That could propel them to good things even if the QB doesn’t pay off huge

they are sitting good for sure.

 

[sdscard4]

Ah okay, I know who you are now.

Just a fan my friend....wanting that Lombardi trophy here in az.
I've always liked Dalton. Again a QB who can read a D. With that said I'm still 100% wanting Mr Cousins even at 20+ mill a year.

 

[Garthshort]

1. Sign a vet.
2. Round 1-QB
3. Round 2-WR
4. Round 3-DB
5. Round 3-OL

This is my fantasy off season. The draft order doesn't matter to me as long as we get the QB, WR, CB, and OL.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think I saw something, yesterday, that said the Vikings were going to pick Teddy, going forward...they are still very high on him and know exactly where he is with his recovery.


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[JeffGollin]

I like Cousins, but not at $30M a year, just as Banky said. Takes up too much of the cap with so many other needs.

I'd be less leery of Cousins if he was 15% better in all aspects of QB play

 

[Southpaw]

Mitch, from everything I hear, the Cards will sign/trade for a vet qb and also draft one this year. I see McCoy working his system with the vet QB while QB Coach Leftwich really works with the rookie qb.

Who has said Leftwich will be retained? That's a job for Ken Dorsey who I imagine has a relationship with Wilks.

Whoops.Just saw this.

"It wasn't Arizona's only coaching move on Thursday. According toRapoport, the Cardinals are also retaining "up-and-coming" quarterbacks coach Byron Leftwich, a "key move" for Wilks' staff. Rapoport added that "former coach Bruce Arians has been outspoken about Leftwich’s future as a coach."

 

[Southpaw]

I think I saw something, yesterday, that said the Vikings were going to pick Teddy, going forward...they are still very high on him and know exactly where he is with his recovery.


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All Zimmer wants is a game manager. Bridgewater, at best, is a game manager.

 

[Chopper0080]

Just a fan my friend....wanting that Lombardi trophy here in az.
I've always liked Dalton. Again a QB who can read a D. With that said I'm still 100% wanting Mr Cousins even at 20+ mill a year.

Dalton is garbage.

 

[Mitch]

Gambo is reporting the deal for McCoy, which he is expected to sign, is 2 years. Hmmm...

 

[Chopper0080]

Gambo is reporting the deal for McCoy, which he is expected to sign, is 2 years. Hmmm...

I don't believe he is re-signed at the end of those two years. Also makes me wonder if we are getting a 30+ QB to pair him with in the two years.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Gambo is reporting the deal for McCoy, which he is expected to sign, is 2 years. Hmmm...

Probably McCoy's camp thinking he needs 2 years to repair his coaching resume and go after another HC job. To me, this puts all the pressure on McCoy to succeed.

 

[Lagerfilled]

They're just bringing him here to help groom Leftwich for OC in 2 years.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I have only 2 words to say: DeShone Kizer

 

[overseascardfan]

If McCoy brings Oswelier with him, I think it's hari kari time.

Yeah, I don’t get why McCoy would try to bring in one of the guys in that pretty much got him fired. If he and Osweiler worked out then he’d still be employed by DEN.

 

[Solar7]

Yeah, I don’t get why McCoy would try to bring in one of the guys in that pretty much got him fired. If he and Osweiler worked out then he’d still be employed by DEN.

Osweiler was the heir apparent after he moved to head coach. We never really got to see Brock play under McCoy since Manning was tearing it up that year.

I’m not against Osweiler on a super cheap contract to come be the backup in a similar way to Stanton 5 years ago.

 

[WildBB]

Great initial post Mitch! Awesome

The only way it appears the Cards will ever get that young, stud 15 year vet is sucking, sucking some more then sucking again!

How many times has this franchise ever picked in the top 3? 3 times? 5 times? Not many & yet we’ve never drafted a QB at those spots when we’ve had them during my lifetime. This franchise has been around over 100 years & yet we’ve never drafted that great QB in rd 1 & he played for us! Never!

Sad that we haven’t sucked bad enough to find “that dude” to change our fortunes for a long stretch of seasons.

Yet teams do get SB QB's after the top 10. It's also a deep field of young guns this season as well. Might as well roll the dice while we're starting out fresh! New HC, new OC - let er Rip!

 

[Buckybird]

Btw if Keim brings in Osweiler or Lynch, it would prove he knows nothing about the QB position & also the Cards future. I would fire Big Steve on the spot if I’m Michael Bidwill!!! I’m dead freaking serious

Then I would then fire McCoy for being an idiot & not willing to change his ways. Both QBs have proven they aren’t nfl starters

 

[Buckybird]

Yet teams do get SB QB's after the top 10. It's also a deep field of young guns this season as well. Might as well roll the dice while we're starting out fresh! New HC, new OC - let er Rip!

Oh I agree, but it’s looking like the potential good ones will be long gone, which is why we need to trade up.

 

[Solar7]

Btw if Keim brings in Osweiler or Lynch, it would prove he knows nothing about the QB position & also the Cards future. I would fire Big Steve on the spot if I’m Michael Bidwill!!! I’m dead freaking serious

Then I would then fire McCoy for being an idiot & not willing to change his ways. Both QBs have proven they aren’t nfl starters

I don't think Lynch will be available yet, and Lynch isn't McCoy's rumored guy anyways. But, I can't see why you'd be completely against signing Osweiler for $1m or so like we did Gabbert, especially if he can come in and know McCoy's offense right off the bat in minicamps that we'll be running before the draft even begins. We need camp arms too. It's a no-risk signing, one that could pan out if he's just more comfortable being back home in AZ. I'm talking 3rd QB money here.

 

[sdscard4]

Dalton is garbage.

25,534 yds
167 TD
93 INT
88.7 QBR
Yeah garbage....Id take that in a heartbeat. Wow unbelievable

 

[oaken1]

25,534 yds
167 TD
93 INT
88.7 QBR
Yeah garbage....Id take that in a heartbeat. Wow unbelievable

............ Comp% TD% INT% Rate salary/yr
Dalton .... 62.3 4.7 2.6 88.7 $16mil

Foles .... 60.1 4.4 2.1 87.4 $5.5mil

 

[sdscard4]

............ Comp% TD% INT% Rate salary/yr
Dalton .... 62.3 4.7 2.6 88.7 $16mil

Foles .... 60.1 4.4 2.1 87.4 $5.5mil

Dalton smokes him in yards..2013 when he was 27 td 2 int is the only reason he's in the ballpark. Dalton can read a D and is consistent. Foles one awesome NFC championship game and 2013. That's it