Cardinals' 53 Man Roster V. 2.0

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QB (2) Palmer, Stanton
RB (3) Mendenhall, Taylor, Ellington
TE (4) Housler, King, Jefferson, TBA*
WR (6) Fitzgerald, Floyd, Roberts, Gill, Hawkins, Brown*
OL (9) Potter, Cooper, Sendlein, Massie, Winston, Watford, Johnson-Webb, Rachal. Kelemete
NT (2) Williams, Scott
DE (5) Dockett, Campbell, Rucker, Carter, Abraham*
ILB (5) Brinkley, Dansby, Minter, Walker*, Washington**
OLB (4): Acho, Okafor, Alexander, Shaughnessy
CB (6): Peterson, Powers, Cason, Arenas, Bethel, Fleming*
S (5): Bell, Johnson, Amaya, Mathieu
ST (3): Feely, Zastudil, Leach

QB---BA won't keep 3 QBs on 53 Man Roster unless injury forces them to. The #3 QB will be on the PS.

RB---Ryan Williams will be traded for a late round conditional pick or for a player. He's not a system fit. And he has little value on STs.

TE---The Cardinals will add a TE via waivers, free agency or trade. Dray, Sperry and Gottlieb are on the other side of the bubble at this point.

WR---Speedsters Gill and Hawkins are in, and Brown edges out Buckner and Byrd.

OL---The writing appears to be on the wall...if Brown and Colledge don't win starting jobs, then the Cardinals will attempt to trade them or they will release them if there are no takers. Brown might get a taker or two---Colledge, not likely.

The 5 starters are Potter, Cooper, Sendlein, Massie and Winston, with Watford and Johnson-Webb as the first options off the bench---and Rachal as veteran insurance.

NT---Williams and the rookie Scott impress. Lumpkin will make a case to stick. Carter still can be used at NT too.

DE---Impressive group. Shaughnessy figures in here as well, as he Rucker and hopefully Abraham will be counted on to bolster a ferocious 4 man rush in passing situations.

ILB---Quite deep now---the questions are whether Minter will beat out Brinkley as the starter and whether Walker is asked to move outside if Korey Jones surprises on STs and as a depth WOLB.

OLB---Shaughnessy (SOLB) and Okafor (WOLB) should emerge as key situational players in a rotation with Acho and Alexander. Zach Nash could be a sleeper, as could Dan Giordino (DE/OLB) when he comes off the PUP...but are on the outside looking in at this point.

CB---Some of these CBs (Bethel, Cason, Fleming) will be used as nickel safeties in certain situations---there will be real flexibility all across the secondary. Bryan McCann has a shot to make this unit too---right now he's on the other side of the bubble.

S---Amaya gets the nod for his STs value, yet Tony Jefferson might win a spot here too, especially if BASK trades CB Jamell Fleming. Tyrann Mathieu is going to be used all over the field as a rover CB/FS on this defense.
 

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I can see most of the other postions possibly playing out that way, but there is no way we cut both Brown and Colledge and leave our OL dept that thin after what happened last year. You have to keep at least one in the case of injury.

Ryan Williams gets the preseason to show he is healthy IMHO.
 

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Does Abraham have the size to be a 3-4 DE?

Or would he be better served to be our weakside OLB?

Or does Bowles design weird fronts and situational schemes to best suit Abraham's talents?
 

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Does Abraham have the size to be a 3-4 DE?

Or would he be better served to be our weakside OLB?

Or does Bowles design weird fronts and situational schemes to best suit Abraham's talents?

I don't think we can answer that until he is actually a Cardinal. ;)
 

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I don't think we can answer that until he is actually a Cardinal. ;)
One reason I posed the question is because what position Abraham plays would have an impact on who remained on the depth chart behind him. (i.e. would we have to drop one more DE or one more OLB)?
 
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I can see most of the other postions possibly playing out that way, but there is no way we cut both Brown and Colledge and leave our OL dept that thin after what happened last year. You have to keep at least one in the case of injury.

Ryan Williams gets the preseason to show he is healthy IMHO.

I am hoping they keep everyone, Banky. The caveat I offered here is the big IF Brown and Colledge get beaten out as starters, there has been a precedent of sorts that you don't pay the money that veterans like them make to be backups. But, as we know, depth on the line is an important factor...and there may be some juggling to find the best combination even well into the season.
 

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I worked that out, but it's written in a manner that brooks no contradiction.

:mulli:

The author of that post has written about 500 threads that all read like that.

So......yeah, what in the heck are you talking about.

How about an American football question or posting something that is contradictory to find out if your "brooking" is correct, or whatever the heck you called it.

And if you can't handle predictions, then don't read them, cause more are coming. We are not going to talk about tupperware on a football message board until the roster is finalized.
 
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Good call on O'Brian Scolfield not making the roster.
 

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:mulli:

The author of that post has written about 500 threads that all read like that.

So......yeah, what in the heck are you talking about.

How about an American football question or posting something that is contradictory to find out if your "brooking" is correct, or whatever the heck you called it.

And if you can't handle predictions, then don't read them, cause more are coming. We are not going to talk about tupperware on a football message board until the roster is finalized.


+1.
 

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Just my two cents (not that it's a big deal) but I think Byrd beats out Gill.

edit: Holy Hell does this roster look different from last year. That is a TON of change.
 

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Just my two cents (not that it's a big deal) but I think Byrd beats out Gill.

edit: Holy Hell does this roster look different from last year. That is a TON of change.

I think Gill is on the roster & plays if he shows anything in TC because he's the only speedster we have. Look at BAs track record with speedsters...it's says the odds are pretty good Gill makes it.
 

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Ok giordano is on pup list and they signed kerry rowe olb who entered the draft 2 years a go,had a great college career but disappointed during workouts
 
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I like the Winston signing. That said, he signed for about the veteran minimum. To think this one low budget signing means the end of Brown AND Colledge is just a wee bit premature.

Starting LT = Potter? I would love for a 7th Rounder to turn into a steal, just like everyone else, but I don't see that at all.

They are trying Massie at LT. Maybe he projects to RG. Maybe that works out. But even if it does, I say Brown OR Colledge are starting somewhere and being kept.

Potter and Watford are backups this year.
 

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Does Abraham have the size to be a 3-4 DE?

Or would he be better served to be our weakside OLB?

Or does Bowles design weird fronts and situational schemes to best suit Abraham's talents?

My guess is that Abraham will be on the field any time BA feels that the opponent will pass. He should be more of a situational player than an every down guy.
 

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:mulli:

The author of that post has written about 500 threads that all read like that.

So......yeah, what in the heck are you talking about.

How about an American football question or posting something that is contradictory to find out if your "brooking" is correct, or whatever the heck you called it.

And if you can't handle predictions, then don't read them, cause more are coming. We are not going to talk about tupperware on a football message board until the roster is finalized.

Awesome post. :thumbup:
 

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Stepfan Taylor = this year's Alfred Morris. This kid is gonna be a baller - just watch.
 

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Don't see Ryan Williams not making the roster if he stays healthy. Also, Levi Brown will make it as, imo, four OT's give us great flexibility/insurance. Dray has been our best blocking TE and w/o a FB, someone has to play HB and I'm guessing it's Dray. Dray has also been vg on ST's. And at this point the #4, #5 and #6(?) WR's are up for grabs, and I'm still guessing Dillard makes the team, with the accent on guessing.
 

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