Cardinals : AJ green signed

[Chopper0080]

What about CB? Right now Alford is our CB1. Alford!

Murphy is our CB 1.

 

[unseenaz]

Murphy is our CB 1.

yikes.

 

[MadCardDisease]

For those of us who have been saying it’s too much for Fitz for a couple of years . . . yeah . . . good chance we are right again.

Green is 32

Fitz is 37

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Murphy is our CB 1.

Ouch.

 

[Chopper0080]

yikes.

I actually think he is ok. He stays around the ball. He has shown the ability to not panic while the ball is in the air. He can tackle. He isn't great, but he is a quality CB.

 

[Cheesebeef]

What?

Center was never going to be our first round pick.

It's going to be a CB is Keim even has a lick of sense. If the top 2 aren't there, we need to trade down and try and get a 3rd back.

I didn’t think we’d go C, but I think this probably satisfies Keim that the O-line as a whole is fine and will want to make a sexy pick at WR for Kyler.

 

[Chopper0080]

People get hung up on CB1 and CB2 and ultimately, unless you have a rare CB who you can put on an island in man coverage (which is rare) it doesn't matter because teams will just roll coverage to the more dominant WR anyway.

 

[Chopper0080]

Cohesion, versatility, and contesting catches are more important in a secondary than a #1 CB is. No Jalen Ramsey's on the market.

 

[DVontel]

I didn’t think we’d go C, but I think this probably satisfies Keim that the O-line as a whole is not as big a need as WR for Kyler.

I’m probably alone on this but I would still would go iOL over WR. Factor K1’s size + athleticism to hesitate EDGEs, I think he needs iOL protection more than any other QB in the league.


A duo of either AVT/Asante Jr or Greg Newsome/Wyatt Davis would have me do backflips


But I’m not opposed to going WR. I get it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m probably alone on this but I would still would go iOL over WR. Factor K1’s size + athleticism to hesitate EDGEs, I think he needs iOL protection more than any other QB in the league.


A duo of either AVT/Asante Jr or Greg Newsome/Wyatt Davis would have me do backflips


But I’m not opposed to going WR. I get it.

yeah. I’m not saying it would be the right or wrong move. Just what I expect to happen.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I’m probably alone on this but I would still would go iOL over WR. Factor K1’s size + athleticism to hesitate EDGEs, I think he needs iOL protection more than any other QB in the league.


A duo of either AVT/Asante Jr or Greg Newsome/Wyatt Davis would have me do backflips


But I’m not opposed to going WR. I get it.

Kadarious Toney? Love his tape...

 

[jf-08]

I saw a j green once live when he was a bulldog lol vs asu actually dude has huge good hands well at uga lol

Really hope cards luck out on watt or green panning out if both fail kiem is in trouble

Go cards keeping fingers heavily crossed

I was at that game in Athens. Holy waterfalls batman! We almost had to build an ark!

 

[DVontel]

Kadarious Toney? Love his tape...

He ain’t a burner. Def not at 16.

 

[GatorAZ]

AJ Green last year: 47/523/4

Andre Johnson’s 2nd to last year: 41/503 yards, 4 TD

Andre Johnson’s final year with Tennessee: 9 rec, 85 yards, 2 TD

 

[Solar7]

Murphy is our CB 1.

Murphy has proven he can only play the slot and both this team and users here have made it clear that's his role.

Calling him our #1 CB is ridiculous, the guy can't handle WRs with size and speed on the outside.

 

[Chopper0080]

Murphy has proven he can only play the slot and both this team and users here have made it clear that's his role.

Calling him our #1 CB is ridiculous, the guy can't handle WRs with size and speed on the outside.

He has shown that he is at his best in the slot...he can play everywhere.

 

[football karma]

Murphy has proven he can only play the slot and both this team and users here have made it clear that's his role.

well that settles it

the Cards made it clear it was his role this year

Murphy is a young player, playing only 1 full year of major college football. i dont think its inconceivable that in year 3 Murphy is ready to move outside.

 

[BritCard]

AJ Green was 87th out of 87 qualifying WRs last season in DVOA and DYAR. Tee Higgins was 27th and Tyler Boyd was 55th.

Kirk was 60th.

I think the right argument here is that Green is a guy you know can play on the perimeter and take advantage of some 1:1 matchups on the outside (maybe). His 45% catch rate late season is extremely concerning. He drops a couple of balls and Murray will ignore him for the next month.

His catch rate is 45% because so many balls were wayward. You remove the balls that weren't catchable and it was 75%.

 

[Solar7]

He has shown that he is at his best in the slot...he can play everywhere.

If I didn't have to jump off of my computer right now, I'd go dredge up the posts by so many here who were lambasting me for being disappointed we had a guy that wasn't suited for the outside, and how many people hammered on the importance of him staying in the slot and how a slot defender is key to winning in the NFL.

He can "play everywhere" in the sense that Chandler Jones could technically play ILB too, it's not really his forte. Counting on him to cover a DK Metcalf is laughable.

well that settles it

the Cards made it clear it was his role this year

Murphy is a young player, playing only 1 full year of major college football. i dont think its inconceivable that in year 3 Murphy is ready to move outside.

He's never been groomed to be moving outside, and as a rookie it was clear he was lost playing outside. He's not a great player. He's okay. He certainly isn't a #1 CB.

 

[QuebecCard]

104 targets 47 receptions last year. what other stats would you need to see he's washed, Larry puts up better numbers than that

I would like to see the advanced stats on the targets.

Targets and catchable balls are two very different things.

 

[football karma]

as a rookie it was clear he was lost playing outside.

he was forced into being the #1 guy due to P2s ped suspension from day 1

rookies arent finished products

 

[kerouac9]

His catch rate is 45% because so many balls were wayward. You remove the balls that weren't catchable and it was 75%.

This is very stupid because Tee Higgins had a 63% catch rate and Tyler Boyd had a 72% catch rate.

Would they have caught 100% of their targets with a different QB?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Green is 32

Fitz is 37

And green looked just as bad last year.

 

[BritCard]

This is very stupid because Tee Higgins had a 63% catch rate and Tyler Boyd had a 72% catch rate.

Would they have caught 100% of their targets with a different QB?

Different routes. A lot of Greens targets were deep balls and Burrow (and the trash they wheeled out later) struggled deep.

 

[Proteus]

Bad signing. Not a fan of this as Green is old and well past his prime.

We still need a legit #2 wide receiver.