Cardinals at Panthers gameday thread 12-22-24

[BritCard]

Man, lol, you have to stop with the excuses.

You just said WR production is a subset of QB production. Mac Jones, Trevor Lawerence, Daniel Jones, & those other Giants’ QBs’ productions are all mediocre-to-ass & they’re still vastly outperforming Marvin. Those guys seem to be QB-proof.

I mean, I've wrote about this before. The routes Marv runs Kyler cannot hit, it's that simple.

The other guys have poor QB play, but also QB's that can throw the routes they run.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I mean, I've wrote about this before. The routes Marv runs Kyler cannot hit, it's that simple.

The other guys have poor QB play, but also QB's that can throw the routes they run.

Sorry man, that doesn’t account for not coming up with 50-50 balls, not working back to the QB, poor timing on back shoulder throws, running wrong routes and generally being underwhelming getting separation.

It can be a thing that kyler and charmin have both stunk.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Don’t be a dolt everyone has said as much 30-40 rush attempts a game and not a bunch of stupid ass sideways passing! They have RBs and know how to use them. And he’s just an OC so a HC to make actual decisions so he can just focus on one thing. Where are all of his HC offers if he’s such a genius? And McDaniels is having a great rookie season so did Murray it’s yet to be seen how he will be after the league catches up to him, they already just squeaking out a lot of games….

Tell me you don’t watch the Commanders without telling me you don’t watch the Commanders.

I’ve watched them all season with Daniels as my fantasy QB. It is basically the same offense. Their running backs are the same level or worse than Kyler has always had. They have a worse TE. They have one good WR while Kyler and Kliff had Nuk and Kirk.

They just don’t have a total choke artist at QB.

 

[Russ Smith]

I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.

the Clowney tackling McBride part absolutely happened. I don't remember for certain if it's the same play where Marv just quit on the play and stood there. For the record not the first time he's done it and he's not the only WR in the NFL that does it.

But the play I'm talking about there's literally one guy, Higgins, in the route because Clowney tackled McBride so Kyler just sort of threw it into the turf in his direction

 

[Russ Smith]

I mean, I've wrote about this before. The routes Marv runs Kyler cannot hit, it's that simple.

The other guys have poor QB play, but also QB's that can throw the routes they run.

So basically everyone, including the guys on tv who talk to OUR coaches, before games, are reporting stuff about Marv that's not true? Because that's what you are suggesting if you're saying the problem is the routes he runs Kyler can't hit.

Unless they are just making this stuff up they are being told by coaches, we are working with Marv on his routes because he's not precise enough and he's not "violent" enough on them and as a result, he's not getting open

 

[BritCard]

So basically everyone, including the guys on tv who talk to OUR coaches, before games, are reporting stuff about Marv that's not true? Because that's what you are suggesting if you're saying the problem is the routes he runs Kyler can't hit.

Unless they are just making this stuff up they are being told by coaches, we are working with Marv on his routes because he's not precise enough and he's not "violent" enough on them and as a result, he's not getting open

Yeah, there's some of that too, and also Kyler sucks outside the numbers and over 10 yards where Marv is doing most of his work.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah, there's some of that too, and also Kyler sucks outside the numbers and over 10 yards where Marv is doing most of his work.

Man you just can't admit that Marv has been a huge disappointment.

I read something yesterday that said a couple of NFL teams had flagged his lack of competitiveness before the draft but I sort of question that, it was obvious he was going top 5 and it was pretty unlikely we were going to trade down and not take him so I don't think that many NFL teams were in serious consideration to take him