Cardinals' HC Package Question

[WisconsinCard]

It’s all wasted breath...or typing

None of us have any idea how these guys are gonna be as a HC of AZ

Cards don’t have a QB or offensive line

That’s not exactly attractive

Doesn't the same hold true for you telling us what we do and don't know? I mean isn't that what we mostly do...speculate?

 

[tnmike]

the off season never fails to entertain around here...

holy ****...we have an entire thread dedicated to our head coaches package...
and we aint even got a HC yet...

simply amazing

I guess the coach needs to put a sock in his pants when he interviews....

 

[BullheadCardFan]

HC Steve Wilks
OC John DeFilippo

Oh baby

I'm warming up to these guys.

 

[Gandhi]

Wilks seems like a Mike Tomlin clone and if so, he would be by far my #1 choice. An article posted about him stated his defenses are aggressive and he is all about discipline and accountability (at every level). First time head coach at this level, so that is a risk. I don't like the idea of switching to a 4-3. I love the 3-4 and Chandler Jones just had a career year.

You are right that it is a risk. On top of that, Albert Breer were reporting the other day that Wilks could bring John DeFilippo as his offensive coordinator, and another rumor is that he could bring Eric Washington, who are currently the defensive line coach with the Panthers, as his defensive coordinator. That would be a first time head coach and nearly two first time coordinators at this level.

I must admit, though, that I am becoming more and more intrigued with that coaching setup. As I wrote in another thread, if Wilks really are in high demand with the Giants, that changes my perspective on him. DeFilippo is a very interesting coach, I think, and though I don’t know much about Eric Washington, he is after all the coach behind a dominant defensive line, and he has been a part of developing studs like Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

HC Steve Wilks
OC John DeFilippo



Oh baby

That's a little too much inexperience for my liking. It may work but, as mentioned above, if successful, DeFilippo will be gone in a year. I'd rather have Shurmur because it's going to be his system that runs the offense regardless of the OC.

 

[JeffGollin]

Michael Bidwill on Cardinals’ search: I’m not trying to copycat anybody

“I’m not trying to copycat anybody,” Cardinals team president Michael Bidwill said during an appearance on the “Big Red Rage” radio show. “I’m trying to make the best decision for us to hire the next leader [and] head coach that will deliver championships to this team and this town.”

The Cardinals are taking their time, with Bidwill calling it a “really important marriage.”

“It always feels like when you are hiring a senior leader like this, you have to go through a couple rounds of this, and somebody always separates themselves,” Bidwill said.

Why this coaching search differs from the Arians search:

Five years ago, Michael B was a relatively newbie owner. SK was a fairly new GM. This time, both owner and GM are 5 years more experienced and more self-assured in their decisionmaking. Might make for interesting chemistry - either a more stabilized "marriage" or conversely, 2 strong bulls occupying the same barnyard.

 

[Gandhi]

If you are commited to it you can build a solid OL within one FA and draft.

The biggest question imo is if we go the young franchise QB road or with a vet like Keenum. HC Wilks OC DeFilippo could work well for a year, but what what if DeFilippo gets a HC opportunity? He already got some interviews this year. This could really hurt our possibly young franchise QB of the future. With Shurmur or even DeFilippo himself as HC, you have no risk of screwing your young franchise QB's development.

I think you are spot on, Veer. In fact, if DeFilippo becomes a coordinator, and if he has any success in that role, I would be very surprised if he didn’t at least get head coach consideration next year.

That said, I still think it would be worth it to hire him if a head coach wants to. The main reason is that we simply don’t know what will happy in the future. I mean, just last year Teryl Austin from the Lions and Dave Toub from the Chiefs had multiple interviews with various teams. Even Harold Goodwin had a few interviews. None of them has reportedly had any interviews this year, so it just goes to show that a lot can change. The second reason is that we don’t know either if there will be one or two position coaches that are so skilled and so well-respected that they would be natural replacements as offensive coordinator.

If they cannot or will not go for Matt Patricia, I root for Steve Wilks to become the new head coach, and I would be thrilled if he would hire DeFilippo as the offensive coordinator.

 

[Gandhi]

My questions are: (1) can the Cardinals make a swift and successful transition to Wilks' 43 defense?

I have wanted to address this for a while, Mitch. Not sure why I haven’t yet.

It doesn’t really matter if a coach or a coordinator wants to run a 4-3 defense or a 3-4 defense, or 2-3-5, 5-2, 3-1-6 or something else for that matter. Every team runs some sort of hybrid defense, so at least schematically it’s not a problem to fit almost every player into the system. I think the main reason we are talking about it in that static way could be as simple as how the networks must present some lineups, and it is simply easier to set it up in either a 3-4- or a 4-3-lineup.

The important part is if the coach wants to run zone- or man coverage, what blitz packages he likes, if he plays one-gap or two-gap on the defensive line, and other dynamic stuff like that. For example, that is also the difference between, say, Todd Bowles and Ray Horton even though both of them runs a 3-4 base defense.

 

[Mitch]

I have wanted to address this for a while, Mitch. Not sure why I haven’t yet.

It doesn’t really matter if a coach or a coordinator wants to run a 4-3 defense or a 3-4 defense, or 2-3-5, 5-2, 3-1-6 or something else for that matter. Every team runs some sort of hybrid defense, so at least schematically it’s not a problem to fit almost every player into the system. I think the main reason we are talking about it in that static way could be as simple as how the networks must present some lineups, and it is simply easier to set it up in either a 3-4- or a 4-3-lineup.

The important part is if the coach wants to run zone- or man coverage, what blitz packages he likes, if he plays one-gap or two-gap on the defensive line, and other dynamic stuff like that. For example, that is also the difference between, say, Todd Bowles and Ray Horton even though both of them runs a 3-4 base defense.

Great answer, Gandhi.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Mitch---you should gather up a few of your analytical posts and submit them to a legitimate publisher (either print or online). At least get paid for your research and writing skills---you meet/exceed a lot of the other media commentators!

That said, when I first saw the heading for this thread I was hoping to see that the HC Package description was not just for the coordinators who would come with a given HC selection but also which HC hires would be able to bring a QB along who would already know his O.

We get stuck on the guys with name recognition for possible HC consideration when there may be a viable candidate who could bring along a QB. An assistant or other coordinator besides Shurmer on the Vikes who could bring along one of their free agents? Ditto with the Chiefs and Smith via trade? Eagles and Foles?

Keep Betcher at DC, bring in a HC who drags along a veteran QB. Buy us time to finally draft a developmental QB. It would also at least keep us competitive in our division.

I really fear a QB carnival similar to the Browns and the years of misery. Geez, what a happy thought.

On a final note, we need to get more out of PP. Watch the tape and see him play touch football with his designated WR and then disappear from the play when it is time to play tackle football. He needs to play to the whistle, not to the point where his WR doesn't get the ball. PP has never meet a tackle he didn't try dance around and avoid and wait for others to close on the play. If I was a OC I would run to his side every play knowing he will remove himself from confronting a pulling guard or TE. PP will be far down the field pretending to follow his WR. When the ball goes elsewhere, he needs to join in the defense of the goal and participate in the play. On goal line stands, he needs to stick his nose in the pile, not stand around as an on-field observer of the action and wait until the whistle and then pat one of the another D-players on the back.

 

[WisconsinCard]

If I was a OC I would run to his side every play knowing he will remove himself from confronting a pulling guard or TE.

I hope that all OCs do this too, and I hope that pulling guards go right after PP21. If that happens our LBs will have a field day crushing their RBs, and then they'll be a little tentative to run the ball the rest of the day.