Cardinals Head Coaching Candidates 2023

[AZ Native]

We have to keep Vance as the DC or HC. 31st ranked defense out of 32? It's a no-brainer. KK and SK are gone. Promote Vance, please.

 

[blindseyed]

Reading thru this thread some of you guys have made me warm up to the idea of Frank Reich, it's better then VJ for sure

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Possible that Aaron Glenn is part of the "acclerator" programme which MB touched on at his press conference.

I think that program is for front office, not coaches.

 

[slanidrac16]

One thing I’m already tired of hearing is how will a guy like Flores mesh with Kyler?
I don’t care. I really believe if Kyler came off the field and started yelling at Flores he’d be sitting on the bench for a series or two…if he didn’t break him in half.
It might be just the thing to set the tone for this new roster. Murray’s got the money but Flores would be the boss.

 

[PACardsFan]

One thing I’m already tired of hearing is how will a guy like Flores mesh with Kyler?
I don’t care. I really believe if Kyler came off the field and started yelling at Flores he’d be sitting on the bench for a series or two…if he didn’t break him in half.
It might be just the thing to set the tone for this new roster. Murray’s got the money but Flores would be the boss.

Let’s be honest here. I would say that an overwhelming number of QB’s in the NFL would have flipped out on Kliff for his unending ineptitude of getting calls in on time. And that’s not even taking into account the poor play calling on top of that. I give Murray credit for not having flipped out much sooner. Just amazing that it even took 4 years for his patience to just run out. Flores wouldn’t have those responsibilities, so I wouldn’t foresee a confrontation on the sideline with Murray. If anything, Flores would be going off on his OC if he consistently couldn’t get plays in on time. Kingsbury’s ineptness has contributed to a reputation that Kyler doesn’t deserve.

 

[slanidrac16]

Let’s be honest here. I would say that an overwhelming number of QB’s in the NFL would have flipped out on Kliff for his unending ineptitude of getting calls in on time. And that’s not even taking into account the poor play calling on top of that. I give Murray credit for not having flipped out much sooner. Just amazing that it even took 4 years for his patience to just run out. Flores wouldn’t have those responsibilities, so I wouldn’t foresee a confrontation on the sideline with Murray. If anything, Flores would be going off on his OC if he consistently couldn’t get plays in on time. Kingsbury’s ineptness has contributed to a reputation that Kyler doesn’t deserve.

I can understand that. But Kyler took a step back this year whether he believes it not. If he doesn’t get it he and we are in trouble.

 

[Garthshort]

I'm guessing DeMeco Ryans who was a teammate of JJ Watt at Houston and is now the DC for SF.

 

[BritCard]

This is so hard to figure out. 32nd ranked defense 30th against the pass, 29th against the run, 31st in points allowed.

What about those results make him a HC candidate? Not even worth an interview.

The Lions defense was 6th in DVOA from week 9 with the 3rd best pass defense.

They were banged up and adjusting to a new scheme early. Takes a good coach to turn that around.

 

[Stout]

Aaron Glenn is the newest interview scheduled

At first I had no idea who this was. When I figured it out, I was, suffice to say, less than pleased. Don't eff this up, Cards, please.

 

[TheCardFan]

He was stuck with a bunch of Josh McDaniels guys

Reichs initial staff included : Sirianni, Eberflus and Gannon.

This was his first staff in 2018 - was this Josh McDaniel's staff or did Reich put them together? Very strong staff IMO.

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[TheCardFan]

Found the answer - still creates the question of can Reich build a solid staff.

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[BritCard]

Found the answer - still creates the question of can Reich build a solid staff.

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It wasn't all of them. They hired Eberflus as DC, DeGuglielmo as O line coach and Mike Phair as D line coach for McDaniels.

The rest Reich put together.

 

[Totally_Red]

Of those we know about Reich and Ryan would be ar the top of my list.
I suspect Ryan will end up in Hoiston though.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The Lions defense was 6th in DVOA from week 9 with the 3rd best pass defense.

They were banged up and adjusting to a new scheme early. Takes a good coach to turn that around.

Glenn was the DC in 2021, too, so it shouldn’t have been a new system this year. I don’t know about injuries or other issues, though. I guess we’d need to check passing defense stats with his previous teams, where he coached DBs.

 

[SoonerLou]

I can understand that. But Kyler took a step back this year whether he believes it not. If he doesn’t get it he and we are in trouble.

Yes and no.

As I've said his QBR was 58 and passer rating was 97 with Deandre Hopkins. He's pretty bad without Hopkins.

To me its not about him realizing he took a step back. Its time for him to step up. Play solid football when you dont have a #1 Wr.

Be better than solid. Be seen as a legit and CONSISTENT top 5 to 7 passer, a top 5 to 7 QB, etc etc.

Now part of that could again be the offense not adjusting enough, developing a running game, play action, etc. However, its time for Kyler to have a complete great year.

Right now there's been a 'but" for all of his positive play

good, but got hurt
good, but Hopkins got hurt
decent when having a top 5 WR and everything is close to perfect.

 

[PACardsFan]

I can understand that. But Kyler took a step back this year whether he believes it not. If he doesn’t get it he and we are in trouble.

No one can deny that statistically he took a step back. But, no one can deny that there were multiple reasons, many outside his control, that led to that. Your moron WR1 gets suspended. As soon as he returns your WR2 goes down for almost the same period of time. Your OL has been a sieve for 4 years & none of that changes again this year. More debilitating injuries than any team in the NFL except 1. The D stinks, and has always stunk under this regime. Then add a piss poor HC who can’t get calls in & when he does, our opponents knew exactly what they would be. Murray’s first 3 years were very good, at times he’s been exceptional. QB’s just don’t forget how to play. Sometimes crap just piles up and it becomes very difficult to do anything. The garbage all around him just snowballed & too many times his sheer frustration got the better of him. One can be critical of him or realize that it was time to clean house and hit the reset button. Ownership smartly chose the latter. Choosing Murray #1 overall was a hotly contested argument on this board & too many on this board want to criticize him as opposed to taking into account that he was fed as big a $hit sandwich with the KK/SK regime as we the fans were. Exactly why it’s imperative that we bring in the best coaching staff as possible if we truly want Murray to return to where he was.

 

[BritCard]

Glenn was the DC in 2021, too, so it shouldn’t have been a new system this year. I don’t know about injuries or other issues, though. I guess we’d need to check passing defense stats with his previous teams, where he coached DBs.

They switched from a 3-4 base in 2021 to a 4-3 base in 2022. It was a new scheme.

 

[slanidrac16]

No one can deny that statistically he took a step back. But, no one can deny that there were multiple reasons, many outside his control, that led to that. Your moron WR1 gets suspended. As soon as he returns your WR2 goes down for almost the same period of time. Your OL has been a sieve for 4 years & none of that changes again this year. More debilitating injuries than any team in the NFL except 1. The D stinks, and has always stunk under this regime. Then add a piss poor HC who can’t get calls in & when he does, our opponents knew exactly what they would be. Murray’s first 3 years were very good, at times he’s been exceptional. QB’s just don’t forget how to play. Sometimes crap just piles up and it becomes very difficult to do anything. The garbage all around him just snowballed & too many times his sheer frustration got the better of him. One can be critical of him or realize that it was time to clean house and hit the reset button. Ownership smartly chose the latter. Choosing Murray #1 overall was a hotly contested argument on this board & too many on this board want to criticize him as opposed to taking into account that he was fed as big a $hit sandwich with the KK/SK regime as we the fans were. Exactly why it’s imperative that we bring in the best coaching staff as possible if we truly want Murray to return to where he was.

I agree. But there are some that want to absolve Murray for his role in this debacle. You’re correct in saying he didn’t forget how to play QB. This was a 3 prong problem. I will go as far as saying he was the lesser of the problem.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Chopper0080]

I don't get interviewing Aaron Glenn unless we still haven't satisfied the Rooney Rule or something... which is a bummer for him.

Glenn has been a consistent HC candidate and is well respected.

 

[Chopper0080]

Let’s be honest here. I would say that an overwhelming number of QB’s in the NFL would have flipped out on Kliff for his unending ineptitude of getting calls in on time. And that’s not even taking into account the poor play calling on top of that. I give Murray credit for not having flipped out much sooner. Just amazing that it even took 4 years for his patience to just run out. Flores wouldn’t have those responsibilities, so I wouldn’t foresee a confrontation on the sideline with Murray. If anything, Flores would be going off on his OC if he consistently couldn’t get plays in on time. Kingsbury’s ineptness has contributed to a reputation that Kyler doesn’t deserve.

I feel like this has been debunked as being Kliff's fault..

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Ronin]

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[Harry]

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Here’s hoping they hire him

 

[Zalixar]

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Here’s hoping SF loses and we can hire him sooner than later.