Cardinals Now The Vegas Favorite To Land Manning

[Crazy Canuck]

That's not what I asked. You said for most Americans "champing" and "chomping" mean the same thing. What do these words mean in Canada if they're not the same thing?

.... I've never heard the term "chomping at the bit" up here or anywhere outside of the US.

.... Another USism is "the proof is in the pudding".

Outside the US it's "the proof of a pudding is in the eating".

 

[Crazy Canuck]

you guys don't have Chompies is Canada? I figured they'd use the correct term for the franchises up there

Never heard of it...

 

[Pariah]

.... I've never heard the term "chomping at the bit" up here or anywhere outside of the US.

So, what's the difference? The words mean the same thing...to "most Americans" (leading me to wonder what it means to "most Canadians").

Nobody gets on you for spelling "defense" differently. Stop looking down your nose at people for a not-incorrect variation of a phrase.

 

[52brandon]

Never heard of it...

you poor bastards. They've got some damn delicious breakfast bagels

 

[Crazy Canuck]

So, what's the difference? The words mean the same thing...to "most Americans" (leading me to wonder what it means to "most Canadians").

Nobody gets on you for spelling "defense" differently. Stop looking down your nose at people for a not-incorrect variation of a phrase.

It was a simple BIM like so many others... that's it... that's all.

I spell defence and offence the English way. Americans, for whatever reason, use the French spelling.

 

[bg7brd]

.... I've never heard the term "chomping at the bit" up here or anywhere outside of the US.

.... Another USism is "the proof is in the pudding".

Outside the US it's "the proof of a pudding is in the eating".

I grew up in western Canada and all I ever heard was "chomping at the bit"

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I grew up in western Canada and all I ever heard was "chomping at the bit"

But, you nothing but American wannabees out there...

 

[Shane]

So I'll assume this means you do know how odds are posted.

The odds on the Cardinals started low and have risen because people are betting on teams not named the Cardinals.

So you're saying people betting against the cardinals are dumb. Gotcha.

Also, of the 9000 posts I've read from you saying "not gonna happen". I haven't seen you give a single reason. Care to share?

Actually the odd were higher and now have gotten lower and by looking at the betting line looks like the Cards are the favorite.. Just FYI.. When in reality it is likely just lower due to more money coming in on the Cards. Thus enticing bettors to take a team with the higher odds to even it out.

Why do I think it wont happen? It is the Cardinals! What more do I really need?

 

[Catfish]

Odds don't change that drastically based on money esp on a prop bet, they are based on probability just like the election prop bets. Books don't take in a ton of money that warrants changes on that kind of bet. The average joe is not throwing 10 grand down on this bet so any real money line movement is coming from wise guys who normally get info as fast if not faster than glazer or schefter. I could be wrong but all the chips are falling into place and if we see a kolb release consider it a done deal as the cards would not leave themselves hanging without an agreement from peyton.

You mean like the Cards did not release Matty until they had an agreement with the Skud?????????

 

[CardNots]

.... I've never heard the term "chomping at the bit" up here or anywhere outside of the US.

.... Another USism is "the proof is in the pudding".

Outside the US it's "the proof of a pudding is in the eating".

Actually the phrase is Champing at the bit not Chomping as stated above. I would agree most in the USA thinks its chomping at the bit but not the case. This difference was brought to me last year.

Champing at the bit is a reference for horses being ready to go...

If you think about it, chomping at the bit isn't a good visual for someone who is ready to get after it, whatever it is...

 

[cardpa]

How about biting the bit.

 

[john h]

The vegas odds have been increased to 17% that the cardinals land manning with the dolphins running 2nd at 14%. The betting started on the cards where a $100 bet would net you $2500 but that has shrunk to only $250 for every $100 bet.

I know to some of you this means nothing but I would much rather go on vegas odds than "nfl insider" information since the books actually have something at stake and aren't throwing crap against a wall hoping it sticks.

I agree with you on that. When it comes to big bettors they always seem to have information others do not. Money talks and in doing so usually is closer than writers on gambling happenings. Since there is no overwhelming odds here I would not read to much into it. If suddenly the odds went to 50/50 then figure someone knows something.

 

[john h]

agreed. Even if it was just a hail mary bet, I'd have put $50 on it just to do it. And if it paid out, I'd be happy that my team got better and that I won a bunch of money

The big boys pour a lot of money in to drive the odds one way of the other than at the last moment put in millions on what they really think. Sort of the way Wall Street works. On Wall Street the big guy is probably named Mr. Van Pelt. In Vegas the big guy is probably named Joey "No Toes" Mandolini.

 

[john h]

Haha I wish, even the best cappers only hit around 65% of the time...I do well enough to keep it up as a regular hobby and make a little profit. Its more about the fun of capping a game which if I could I would do it full time.

The big tine cappers have brought this down to a science. No gut feelings with these big players. They have inside guys all over the place checking with Docs, watching practice to see who limps, following key players around and only God knows what else. On Wall Street we have companies that can make a million trades or more in a minute with their high speed well programed computers on a one-cent move in a stock. How is the average investor in Kansas City going to compete with this. Why do so many Harvard MBA's go to Wall Street to be investment bankers (traders)? Big time money fast. Millionaires before they are thirty. Joey "no toes" operates in much the same way in Vegas and he only graduated from grade school.

 

[john h]

I live in Vegas, and really wanted to put something down, but I didn't have the disposable cash back when the odds were as good as they are. My good friend made one though.

Vegas does adjust the odds depending on how many people are betting one way though, so it may be that people just found the possibility of the Cardinals doing it that much more enticing for that much money.

When I was a teen in the late 40's my buddy's father was a driver for the mob in Chicago. The father would pick up the high rollers at a train station in the suburbs and take then to various bars on the north side that had back rooms that had ever type of gambling there was. The father would take us along on occasion and we got to see the action in the back rooms. Fortunate for me I joined the military and never got involved in what could have been big money. My buddy ended up dead. Capone had a big house on the near north side but only the well connected got to go into that compound. To a young teen this all seemed like a real thrill ride and we liked to brag about it. Later in life when I needed a Top Secret clearance in the military this apparently never came to light but they did check with my high school and grade school teachers. In life you often come to a fork in the road and in this case I took the one less traveled. Lucky me. I grew up in an Italian neighbor hood on the north side. All my buddies parents were from Italy or Sicily and all my buddies spoke Italian and many of their parents could not speak fluent English. Being a member of the mob in those days was not uncommon in my community. Some of my friends went off to college and became successful honest people. Some went the wrong way.