Cardinals release 1st preseason depth chart

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Cardinals release 1st preseason depth chart

The Cardinals' first unofficial depth chart is based on preseason participation, not the projected roster.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[juza76]

Indication from the depth chart
Vallejo and Vigil are the starters at this point

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Indication from the depth chart
Vallejo and Vigil are the starters at this point

Which is a sad state of affairs, if true

 

[QuebecCard]

Which is a sad state of affairs, if true

And it isn't.

 

[HairZach]

Indication from the depth chart
Vallejo and Vigil are the starters at this point

Younger players will be high on these depth charts even if they are projected starters. Reps are needed. My main issue is Christian Matthew being at the bottom of the depth chart in pre season. What is going on there?

 

[juza76]

Younger players will be high on these depth charts even if they are projected starters. Reps are needed. My main issue is Christian Matthew being at the bottom of the depth chart in pre season. What is going on there?

Let's see it in week one
Vance Joseph doesn't change his mentality
If players are not smart enough from a football standpoint they ll see their snaps percentage decreasing week by week
Do u remember last season (final games) when at one point we had Vallejo and Joe walker getting snaps over our first rounders?

 

[cardncubfan]

It's pretty silly to take this as any indication of what the regular season depth chart will be like. People just need to relax & wait until the actual season starts before complaining about stuff that they can't control.

 

[blindseyed]

It's pretty silly to take this as any indication of what the regular season depth chart will be like. People just need to relax & wait until the actual season starts before complaining about stuff that they can't control.

Wait.. that's what we do here, complain about what we can't control!! It's why we're here lol

 

[Chopper0080]

It's pretty silly to take this as any indication of what the regular season depth chart will be like. People just need to relax & wait until the actual season starts before complaining about stuff that they can't control.

Here is what I will say.

We have a history of Vance sacrificing athleticism for consistency. Even if that consistency doesn't make the play. So, correct read but can't physically make the play is more valued than making the wrong read.

We have articles on AZ Central talking about Nick Vigil as a starter. https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...ck-vigil-primed-key-role-defense/10282715002/ We have a preseason depth chart that indicates Vigil is not going to play along with other entrenched starters. A lot of smoke here that Vigil will be one of the starting ILBs.

We now have Zaven Collins starting the 1st preseason game for a team that does not typically play entrenched starters much in the preseason. We then have this article from AZ Central (https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...ati-bengals-nfl-preseason-opener/10294928002/) which states "Collins is aiming for a starting spot at inside linebacker, as it's no guarantee that he'll have one when the regular season starts. So preseason games could be important to see where his development as a player currently stands."

We also have Isaiah Simmons who Vance has stated needs to improve on his consistency learning a new role on defense for a coach who does not have a history of creating roles for players. Over his career Vance has been a coach who likes defined roles for his players.

We also have Tanner Vallejo on the roster who Vance has chosen to play over both Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins as recently as last year. Tanner is on the preseason depth chart in a similar spot to Vigil and does not look to get any snaps in the first game which has traditionally been the case for entrenched starters.

The idea of our starting ILBs being Vallejo and Vigil is not coming out of nowhere, there are legit reasons to believe it is a possibility.

 

[PACardsFan]

Here is what I will say.

We have a history of Vance sacrificing athleticism for consistency. Even if that consistency doesn't make the play. So, correct read but can't physically make the play is more valued than making the wrong read.

We have articles on AZ Central talking about Nick Vigil as a starter. https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...ck-vigil-primed-key-role-defense/10282715002/ We have a preseason depth chart that indicates Vigil is not going to play along with other entrenched starters. A lot of smoke here that Vigil will be one of the starting ILBs.

We now have Zaven Collins starting the 1st preseason game for a team that does not typically play entrenched starters much in the preseason. We then have this article from AZ Central (https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...ati-bengals-nfl-preseason-opener/10294928002/) which states "Collins is aiming for a starting spot at inside linebacker, as it's no guarantee that he'll have one when the regular season starts. So preseason games could be important to see where his development as a player currently stands."

We also have Isaiah Simmons who Vance has stated needs to improve on his consistency learning a new role on defense for a coach who does not have a history of creating roles for players. Over his career Vance has been a coach who likes defined roles for his players.

We also have Tanner Vallejo on the roster who Vance has chosen to play over both Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins as recently as last year. Tanner is on the preseason depth chart in a similar spot to Vigil and does not look to get any snaps in the first game which has traditionally been the case for entrenched starters.

The idea of our starting ILBs being Vallejo and Vigil is not coming out of nowhere, there are legit reasons to believe it is a possibility.

Just one more reason why VJ needs to go ASAP. If we don’t make the playoffs, the only silver lining is that VJ will get fired. There‘s no one else to fire.