Cardinals trade pick #23 for Hollywood Brown

[BritCard]

I don't think it's a bad move; I think it's an excellent move because we desperately needed a deep threat, and we got a proven one relatively cheap. What I think is bad about it is that Keim put us in the position to have this desperate need by whiffing on so many WRs in the past.

I'd guess if you looked at it his whiff rate is no different to most GM's. WR's whiff a lot.

Look at the 2020 draft.

Ruggs, Jeudy, Raegor, Aiyuk, Shenault, Hamler, Van Jefferson, Mims. That's 8 of the first 13 receivers off the board in 2020 all under performed where they were drafted.

 

[Stout]

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Oh Steve, don't go throwing away all the credit people are giving you lol

 

[Minski]

Also lets not forget the optics of this trade for Kyler and his contract negotiations. I have no evidence for this but I could easily imagine Kyler to want to ensure Hollywood stays long term with Kyler so makes concessions in his contract with money if its used for Hollywood... it's what I would want if my best mate was playing on the same team

 

[Stout]

Is he? Seems to me you put AJ Green as the #2 and Hollywood as the slot which puts Moore I don’t know where.

lol AJ Green just got marginalized, and rightly so.

 

[BritCard]

Another thing I like about this move is that Brown is fantastic against zone coverage. He's great at crossing zones and finding space and defenders just can;t keep up with him once he's in stride.

This puts defenses in a bind because they want to play zone (and have been a lot) to stop Kyler running and the horizontal stuff we do with Moore. But this opens them up to pain from Brown and Nuk. Before Nuk was our main threat vs zone they could shade coverage his way. They can't now.

Brown is not so good vs man. Especially against the top CBs. But he shouldn't be attracting the top CB's now which will help. But vs man we have options in Green, Ertz and Nuk too.

Lot's of options for the offense makes it tough to defend us.

 

[Minski]

Watching his highlights he usually makes 1 guy miss, but since he is so closely covered with 2 players the 2nd one gets him down... now if he's not getting doubled, we could see more big YACs from him

 

[Stout]

Hollywood was probably worth a 3rd. Going in to his final contract year, needs to be paid, barely cracked 1k yards one time.. I like bringing him in, but the price is awful

Not going into his final contract year. We have 2 years of control.

 

[Stout]

I think the Eagles gave a lot more in their trade (the 18th + the 101st) than what we did (the 23rd - the 100th).

We RECEIVED the 100, we didn't GIVE UP the 100.

 

[Stout]

Steve Smith is a d-bag, always has been. And when has he ever been right about anything. Like never. How he still has a job is a joke.

Yeah, I saw that segment this morning and he sounded like a know-nothing jackhole.

 

[Garthshort]

Another thing I like about this move is that Brown is fantastic against zone coverage. He's great at crossing zones and finding space and defenders just can;t keep up with him once he's in stride.

This puts defenses in a bind because they want to play zone (and have been a lot) to stop Kyler running and the horizontal stuff we do with Moore. But this opens them up to pain from Brown and Nuk. Before Nuk was our main threat vs zone they could shade coverage his way. They can't now.

Brown is not so good vs man. Especially against the top CBs. But he shouldn't be attracting the top CB's now which will help. But vs man we have options in Green, Ertz and Nuk too.

Lot's of options for the offense makes it tough to defend us.

And if get a pass catching RB, we'll be even tougher. IMO.

 

[Stout]

Stout, Ouchie, Krango, Chopper and I all like the move.

This is a rare moment of serenity on the board folks. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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[CFLredzoned]

That's alot of jet fuel to transport one dude.

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I bet these people were happy though. Makes the live event not the buzzkill it would have been.

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[Dynomite]

He’s our number 2 though

Exactly we could have a bengals type receiving core

 

[BullheadCardFan]

This was agreed upon a day or two ago.

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I like the way they kept this quiet

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I'm sold on the trade. Cardinals get a WR and the 100th pick.

Better yet, the Cardinals get a player that is ready to play. No messing up the pick.

SK used a strength to cover one of his weaknesses

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Steve Smith destroying Hollywood Brown on NFL Network. Said he's too weak against the press and expects the corners in the NFC West to bully him. ouch.

Have to hope he's not right

 

[Dynomite]

Wasn't Moore supposed to be what they were hoping Isabella was too? Three draft assets now to fill the same roll.

Except brown is more proven at that role

 

[PACardsFan]

Yeah, I saw that segment this morning and he sounded like a know-nothing jackhole.

He hates the Cardinals. Ever since we thrashed them in the 2008 Divisional round, he takes every chance he gets to be critical. And he’s just horrible at what he does. He’s just an angry short guy.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Now we have to hope kliff doesn’t design a play that has Rondale and Hollywood blocking for AJ on a WR screen.

 

[overseascardfan]

Had Jermaine Johnson not been there at #25, I would be fine with trading for Brown buy if we could have had either Christian Watson, Alec Pierce or Jalen Tolbert to go with Johnson then I would have rather kept number #25.

I definitely see ARZ taking an EDGE in Round 2 unless Keim has another trade under his sleeve.

 

[QuebecCard]

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but Amari Cooper, who’s wasayyyy better than Brown, was had by Cleveland for a 5th round pick.

Operative term: was.

 

[PACardsFan]

You echoed all my thoughts so I don’t have to redo it. Love the trade. And on top of everything Kerouac said we also got a third. Only reasonable alternative available to us, imo, was drafting jermaine johnson with 23!!

True. And no one could have fathomed that Jermaine would have been there at 23.

 

[DVontel]

Still meh.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

not a bad trade. Plus a third rounder.

any o-lineman left they could trade up for tonight?

 

[PACardsFan]

I don't think it's a bad move; I think it's an excellent move because we desperately needed a deep threat, and we got a proven one relatively cheap. What I think is bad about it is that Keim put us in the position to have this desperate need by whiffing on so many WRs in the past.

Correct. We whiffed on Isabella in the 2nd, but those other guys were 3rd day selections. Still hurts though. I’ll be curious to see if some of the WR’s picked last night end up not meeting expectations.