Cards add first woman to an NFL coaching staff

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Yeah.. just glaze past the fact that Belichick's father was a collegiate scout/coach and that little Billy lived, breathed, slept and ate football starting a few moments after birth. :lol:

Nope, didn't glaze past it. It was not part of the parameters set in your veiled attempt to hide a misogynistic point within a bs, hypothetical question. :lol:

'Glaze' makes me think of a sugary substance that is added to make a bad thing even worse. Like adding ridiculous explanations to a weak argument. Examples: Somebody alluding they have biographical knowledge of another person's childhood. Assuming "little Billy" was given his initial opportunity or his first hires were based on who Belichick's daddy was. :lol:
 

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Nope, didn't glaze past it. It was not part of the parameters set in your veiled attempt to hide a misogynistic point within a bs, hypothetical question. :lol:

'Glaze' makes me think of a sugary substance that is added to make a bad thing even worse. Like adding ridiculous explanations to a weak argument. Examples: Somebody alluding they have biographical knowledge of another person's childhood. Assuming "little Billy" was given his initial opportunity or his first hires were based on who Belichick's daddy was. :lol:

Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?
 

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I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?


intern: a student or trainee who works, sometimes without pay, at a trade or occupation in order to gain work experience
 

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How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

By playing the game themselves, by being a proven leader and team member and by writing a PhD dissertation on the Wonderlic and knowing how to get inside players' heads to make them better players.

This answer brought to you by a woman.

You're welcome.

p.s. No President of the United States has prior experience as President of the United States prior to their inauguration.
 

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Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

Where I come from, that's the whole purpose of internships...
 

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training camp started already?
i just watched her on the field with players
she looks full of energy,great
 

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Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

Curious question, does it bother you that they hired a female? I am asking because you have been a memeber here for 10 years and have averaged 1.5 posts a year while having 3 in this thread alone, meaning 20% of your posts are about the subject and you do not seem too happy about it.
 

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The unfortunate thing is that this was announced right around the same time the Brady news broke so it's getting very little national airplay.
 

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I got a good friend who is a SOF Operator for this nation.

He credits his mom, along with her degree in sports psychology, as being amongst his biggest influences.

I wouldn't underestimate her ability or intention

Is that code? Have no idea what that means.
 

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It begs the question... Would a male with the exact same credentials get this gig? (including the void of Collegiate or NFL experience)

She has her work cut out for her, that's for sure.


Just for discussion and comparison, Jedd Fisch was a high school and college tennis player. He has been an OC for Jax Jags and Miami Hurricanes and is currently QB coach passing game coordinator for U of Mich.

Fisch grew up in East Hanover Township, New Jersey and attended Hanover Park High School.[2] Notably, Fisch did not play football at the high school or college level, but instead was an all-state tennis player during his prep career.[3]

Fisch graduated from the University of Florida in 1998 with a degree in criminology.[4] He attended Florida almost solely for the opportunity to someday work for Florida head coach Steve Spurrier.[5]
 

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Curious question, does it bother you that they hired a female? I am asking because you have been a memeber here for 10 years and have averaged 1.5 posts a year while having 3 in this thread alone, meaning 20% of your posts are about the subject and you do not seem too happy about it.

Very Interesting.

I thought it was because BA is clueless and full of himself or Michael wanted the positive press. :D
 

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Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

Posted it here and elsewhere, but I will repeat myself.

She is already more qualified for this opportunity than some other coaches who were given their first shot. For example:

Dr. Welter:
PhD
Masters in Sports Psychology
Coached in a semi-pro league
Played in a men’s league
Recommended to Bruce Arians by her boss
Interviewed with/impressed the Cardinals

Todd Haley:
Grew up playing golf
Used his dad's connection to the Steeler's Front Office to get him his first shot in the NFL
 

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Curious question, does it bother you that they hired a female? I am asking because you have been a memeber here for 10 years and have averaged 1.5 posts a year while having 3 in this thread alone, meaning 20% of your posts are about the subject and you do not seem too happy about it.

Does it bother me that a woman was hired? Absolutely not. I am a strong proponent of hiring the most qualified person for whatever the job may be, football and beyond. I am also not denying that she is obviously incredibly smart, and loves football, that much is very evident. My questioning of the hiring has more to do with how is this person going to make our linebacker corps better at playing linebacker than they were last year? All of the other interns either have a track record of previous coaching at a high level, or playing at the highest level possible. With Dr. Welter, yes, she played semi-pro football for 14 years, but to compare the Xs and Os of the Dallas Diamonds and the Arizona Cardinals, is no comparison. That's not to say that someone can't learn how to break down NFL offenses, but to teach professionals how to be better when there is no track record of showing that in the past, makes me skeptical.

At the end of the day, this is the most excited I have been about a season as I can ever remember. I trust in BA, Keim, Michael Bidwill, et al in continuing to do whatever it takes to make the team better. I guess I'm just a pessimist at heart, but that comes from more years of watching the team crash and burn, than joyous years. I hope it all works out for the best.

As far as my low post count. I obviously signed up years ago. Forgot my login name, and had initially tied it to a college email account which got deactivated. Took a guess at it semi-recently and was able to log-in, but have pretty much only lurked for Cardinal information over the years.
 
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Posted it here and elsewhere, but I will repeat myself.

Todd Haley:
Grew up playing golf
Used his dad's connection to the Steeler's Front Office to get him his first shot in the NFL

Yeah but in golf is very similar to football
  1. A ball is involved
  2. you hit things
  3. you wear cleats
  4. there are drives
  5. there are Eagles
So Haley was totally qualified!
 

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Does it bother me that a woman was hired? Absolutely not. I am a strong proponent of hiring the most qualified person for whatever the job may be, football and beyond. I am also not denying that she is obviously incredibly smart, and loves football, that much is very evident. My questioning of the hiring has more to do with how is this person going to make our linebacker corps better at playing linebacker than they were last year? All of the other interns either have a track record of previous coaching at a high level, or playing at the highest level possible. With Dr. Welter, yes, she played semi-pro football for 14 years, but to compare the Xs and Os of the Dallas Diamonds and the Arizona Cardinals, is no comparison. That's not to say that someone can't learn how to break down NFL offenses, but to teach professionals how to be better when there is no track record of showing that in the past, makes me skeptical.

At the end of the day, this is the most excited I have been about a season as I can ever remember. I trust in BA, Keim, Michael Bidwill, et al in continuing to do whatever it takes to make the team better. I guess I'm just a pessimist at heart, but that comes from more years of watching the team crash and burn, than joyous years. I hope it all works out for the best.

As far as my low post count. I obviously signed up years ago. Forgot my login name, and had initially tied it to a college email account which got deactivated. Took a guess at it semi-recently and was able to log-in, but have pretty much only lurked for Cardinal information over the years.

I think you're missing the entire purpose of an intern... If any team or any company is expecting transformational results from an intern, then they too are completely misguided as to the value and purpose of internships.
In the case of Dr. Welter, the fact that she has advanced degrees in both Sports Psychology and Psychology suggests that whatever value she does provide might very well stem from her academic achievements versus anything she's done or learned on the field of play...
 

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Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

Do you really think most interns in the NFL have a lot of experience in coaching? They rarely do. That's why they are interns.
 
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Eluding to someone being misogynistic for questioning it is arguably a more ridiculous statement. I think a valid question is brought forth. How does a person with no prior coaching experience, outside of one year in a semi-pro indoor football league get invited to coach/intern for an NFL team?

You seem to have a problem with this hire/internship. Is it because she's a woman or do you have other reasons?

Edit: Never mind. Just seen your last post.
 
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Does it bother me that a woman was hired? Absolutely not. I am a strong proponent of hiring the most qualified person for whatever the job may be, football and beyond. I am also not denying that she is obviously incredibly smart, and loves football, that much is very evident. My questioning of the hiring has more to do with how is this person going to make our linebacker corps better at playing linebacker than they were last year? All of the other interns either have a track record of previous coaching at a high level, or playing at the highest level possible. With Dr. Welter, yes, she played semi-pro football for 14 years, but to compare the Xs and Os of the Dallas Diamonds and the Arizona Cardinals, is no comparison. That's not to say that someone can't learn how to break down NFL offenses, but to teach professionals how to be better when there is no track record of showing that in the past, makes me skeptical.

At the end of the day, this is the most excited I have been about a season as I can ever remember. I trust in BA, Keim, Michael Bidwill, et al in continuing to do whatever it takes to make the team better. I guess I'm just a pessimist at heart, but that comes from more years of watching the team crash and burn, than joyous years. I hope it all works out for the best.

As far as my low post count. I obviously signed up years ago. Forgot my login name, and had initially tied it to a college email account which got deactivated. Took a guess at it semi-recently and was able to log-in, but have pretty much only lurked for Cardinal information over the years.


She's an intern. this is what an intern is:

An internship is a job training for white-collar and professional careers.[1][2]

Internships for professional careers are similar in some ways to apprenticeships for trade and vocational jobs,[3] but the lack of standardisation and oversight leaves the term open to broad interpretation.[4][5] Interns may be college or university students, high school students, or post-graduate adults. These positions may be paid or unpaid and are usually temporary.

Generally, an internship consists of an exchange of services for experience between the student and an organisation. Students can also use an internship to determine if they have an interest in a particular career, create a network of contacts or gain school credit. Some interns find permanent, paid employment with the organizations for which they worked. This can be a significant benefit to the employer as experienced interns often need little or no training when they begin regular employment. Unlike a trainee program, employment at the completion of an internship is not guaranteed.

Does this sound like someone who's going to have a significant impact one way or the other?
 

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Nope, didn't glaze past it. It was not part of the parameters set in your veiled attempt to hide a misogynistic point within a bs, hypothetical question. :lol:

'Glaze' makes me think of a sugary substance that is added to make a bad thing even worse. Like adding ridiculous explanations to a weak argument. Examples: Somebody alluding they have biographical knowledge of another person's childhood. Assuming "little Billy" was given his initial opportunity or his first hires were based on who Belichick's daddy was. :lol:


Yeah, you kinda did...

You attempt to paint Belichik in the same light as say... Rudy.
When in reality, Belichik was a coach in training since childhood, a fact that's been well documented.
 
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