Cards Bills 2012 Game Thread

[Cards_Campos]

Whiz at post game presser. Its been 12 seconds and he already said "clean some things up"



Bang

I hate him. THat makes no sense. We have been cleaning things up since the 80's. We need alot more than cleaning.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I honestly don't think Kolb sucks at all. He just never has time for the play to develop to make a play. Yes, there are some plays he should have thrown it quicker, like that safety but other then that, when he gets time, he is good.

And other than the time he threw the same exact int that Suckton just threw? I'd say that sucked. He had time on that play. Do I expect perfection? Nope, I expect adequate play. 13 pts against this atrocious D was inadequate. He sucks. God, I'm finding that I really can't say that enough. I'm so frigging over the team Kevin Suck v team John Suckton debates on here. They both frigging suck. Just suck suck suck. Why can some of you not see that? The o line sucks, but that doesn't negate the tremendous sucktitude that are our qbs. Do people here not remember the suck-off that was e preseason "competition" between them? They suck!!!!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I agree, Brady wouldn't be Brady with this OL.

But he'd be a lot better than suck twins

 

[Chopper0080]

This is about the same point in the season as last year when Horton supposedly made major changes in the Defense isn't it?

He cut back the amount of the defensive playbook. He didn't change the scheme or personnel (Acho replaced an injured Porter).

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Agree 100%. Those who think they're capable of analyzing either QB accurately behind this line are either lying, ignorant, or desperate for attention.


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You're outta your mind. We watched them last year behind a slightly better line too. These guys would not be starting for any other team in the NFL.

 

[Shaggy]

And other than the time he threw the same exact int that Suckton just threw? I'd say that sucked. He had time on that play. Do I expect perfection? Nope, I expect adequate play. 13 pts against this atrocious D was inadequate. He sucks. God, I'm finding that I really can't say that enough. I'm so frigging over the team Kevin Suck v team John Suckton debates on here. They both frigging suck. Just suck suck suck. Why can some of you not see that? The o line sucks, but that doesn't negate the tremendous sucktitude that are our qbs. Do people here not remember the suck-off that was e preseason "competition" between them? They suck!!!!!!

Yea, that was a bad pass, but what QB doesn't make a bad pass from time to time. When Kolb has had time, he does a damn good job 95% of the time. Just like any good QB does. I think Kolb is an above average QB if he would have the time that Brady/Rogers/and any other QB has that's not behind this OL. The OL needs a TON of work. We lost both games because of them.

 

[az1965]

And other than the time he threw the same exact int that Suckton just threw? I'd say that sucked. He had time on that play. Do I expect perfection? Nope, I expect adequate play. 13 pts against this atrocious D was inadequate. He sucks. God, I'm finding that I really can't say that enough. I'm so frigging over the team Kevin Suck v team John Suckton debates on here. They both frigging suck. Just suck suck suck. Why can some of you not see that? The o line sucks, but that doesn't negate the tremendous sucktitude that are our qbs. Do people here not remember the suck-off that was e preseason "competition" between them? They suck!!!!!!

I think we need to start a QB controversy debate on the board now that Skelton has returned...

Now tell us which one will you prefer and why?

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think we need to start a QB controversy debate on the board...

Now tell us which one will you prefer and why?

It's easy, he wants the same QB I do - somebody else!

Steve

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yea, that was a bad pass, but what QB doesn't make a bad pass from time to time. When Kolb has had time, he does a damn good job 95% of the time. Just like any good QB does. I think Kolb is an above average QB if he would have the time that Brady/Rogers/and any other QB has that's not behind this OL. The OL needs a TON of work. We lost both games because of them.

I'm sorry, did you say 95% of the time?!? Not even the delusional coaching staff would agree with you! They regularly state that BOTH qbs leave big plays on the field every game! You're outta your mind.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think we need to start a QB controversy debate on the board now that Skelton has returned...

Now tell us which one will you prefer and why?

Lol. I vote independent!

 

[Duckjake]

He cut back the amount of the defensive playbook. He didn't change the scheme or personnel (Acho replaced an injured Porter).

Porter never came back either so I don't know if it was just an injury. That's still a major change to me if he's cutting back on the amount of defensive plays he's using and putting in a rookie for good.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It's easy, he wants the same QB I do - somebody else!

Steve

Good lord, I'd even throw lindley in there at this point just to see if he's got anything cuz I'm fairly certain this season is over.

 

[az1965]

Porter never came back either so I don't know if it was just an injury. That's still a major change to me if he's cutting back on the amount of defensive plays he's using and putting in a rookie for good.

He cut back a lot of the plays but the guys also started to grasp his concepts and buying into it. Those are not the excuses anymore. Anyway, defense is still not the problem.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Good lord, I'd even throw lindley in there at this point just to see if he's got anything cuz I'm fairly certain this season is over.

Yeah, it's time to answer some questions out there. We've found out that neither Kolb nor Skelton are the long term answers so we might as well see what Lindley has. Not to save the season, our O line makes that pretty much impossible.

Steve

 

[Shaggy]

I'm sorry, did you say 95% of the time?!? Not even the delusional coaching staff would agree with you! They regularly state that BOTH qbs leave big plays on the field every game! You're outta your mind.

When he has time to throw but that's few and far between.

 

[Duckjake]

He cut back a lot of the plays but the guys also started to grasp his concepts and buying into it. Those are not the excuses anymore. Anyway, defense is still not the problem.

Nobody said it was. We were talking about whether or not it was too late in the season to make wholesale changes(offense) and I was thinking that what Horton did last year was a major change. Nothing more.

 

[AzStevenCal]

When he has time to throw but that's few and far between.

When he has time to throw he still locks in on one guy more often than not and his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired.

Steve

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, it's time to answer some questions out there. We've found out that neither Kolb nor Skelton are the long term answers so we might as well see what Lindley has. Not to save the season, our O line makes that pretty much impossible.

Steve

Agree

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

When he has time to throw but that's few and far between.

We will just have to disagree bc I think your percentage is straight outta science fiction, written by a crazy person.

 

[Shaggy]

Thats true too, but I know if he had a decent OL, we wouldn't be having a QB issue.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

When he has time to throw he still locks in on one guy more often than not and his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired.

Steve

All of that must fit into the 5%

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Thats true too, but I know if he had a decent OL, we wouldn't be having a QB issue.

Lol, that's my point, there's no debate, they BOTH suck.

 

[Shaggy]

All of that must fit into the 5%

Yep, Clown it does.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yep, Clown it does.

 

[52brandon]

However, both interceptions were exactly the same according to the announcers.

Doesn't matter. The Cards have no offense no matter who plays QB.

lol, yeah. The announcers were also talking about how the Fitz catch for a 1st was exactly why Skelton was named starter... right after the very next play, where Skelton overthrew his WR by like 6 feet...

Kolb is all world compared to #19

I'm just waitin on the morons here to hate on Kolb for being fragile as a china doll

his durability was my biggest concern with him. In preseason this year, I thought it was enough of a concern for him to lose the starting job. But he's been better. Much better

Lemme see, Kolb put up 3 points last week against a mediocre rams team. 3 points. Read that a hundred times. He put up 13 points today, at home, with 10 days rest against a PUTRID defense. A historically putrid defense. Play numbers all you want, but you're just deluding yourself. Have fun in fantasy land playing patty cake with Kolb. They both suck. S-U-C-K, suck. Hello Kevin Suck and John Suckton.

3 points? 13 points? Numbers? Do you even read what you're saying before you post it? I think last week, in that 3-point game, our line set a record for how many times they let STL mop the floor with him. I was surprised to see him still alive

This year:
Skelton 16/38, 186 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs
Kolb 109/183, 1169 yards, 8 TDs, 3 INTs

keep babbling with your opinion, but the FACT is Kolb is a significantly better QB. Maybe Skelton has moxie