Cards chasing Reggie Bush

[kerouac9]

Because Philbin said so. He got tired of Bush's fumbling and went with Thomas. It was a little baffling the way he treated him

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-11-12/sports/fl-mikeb-dolphins-column-1113-20121112_1_joe-philbin-reggie-bush-bush-fumble

http://stats.cleveland.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=7751&team=15&page=logs

That article talks about one game, and it doesn't really seem like his touches per game went down much over the second half of the year, if at all.

Anyway, I think we should keep in mind that Michael Bidwill is firmly in control of the personnel effort, and he was (probably) the guy who went over Denny Green's head in signing Edge James. This team is hopeless offensively right now, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Michael deliver a player no one wants on a contract we can't afford to provide some leadership and flash and SOMEONE you can put on a souvenir cup in Week 4.

 

[GatorAZ]

Our cap situation is a lot better than these salary sites suggest.

 

[kerouac9]

Our cap situation is a lot better than these salary sites suggest.

Thanks, Baghdad Bob.

 

[ajcardfan]

I'd be for it, as long as the contract doesn't break the bank.

In that case, you could forget about Bush signing here. He'd be a numbnut for signing a "doesn't break the bank" contract with our new coach saying our oline isn't as bad as it has looked and Levi Brown will make it much better.

 

[GatorAZ]

Thanks, Baghdad Bob.

Let's keep politics out of this.

MJ was the one who said we could afford a big contract in FA which goes against the numbers from Spotrac or whoever. He's a direct source not some salary website.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Because Philbin said so. He got tired of Bush's fumbling and went with Thomas. It was a little baffling the way he treated him

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-11-12/sports/fl-mikeb-dolphins-column-1113-20121112_1_joe-philbin-reggie-bush-bush-fumble

I live in Miami and this is spot on. There was a 3 game stretch where Bush was in Philbins dog house for fumbling among other issues. Was certainly common knowldge here and i didnt realize the news didnt travel to Az. Lets stop debating its merit though, eh?

As for Reggie Bush, yes please.

 

[DoTheDew]

I said a few months ago before we even had a HC that I thought Bush made perfect sense for our offense. He solves a variety of issues:

1. We aren't forced to use Peterson as PR. We have the choice between 2 good PRs if we sign Bush and PP21 can focus on being a shutdown corner even more.
2. RB Depth. So long as Beanie and RWill are on the roster, we need at least 1 more guy who can go a few games as a starter.
3. Explosiveness in the offense. Mitch and others have talked about needing a speed WR. Bush can fill a lot of that need in the offense.


If the price is right (big if), I see no reason not to go after him.

 

[GatorAZ]

PP is and will be the full time punt return guy.

 

[DoTheDew]

PP is and will be the full time punt return guy.

If he performs the way he did last year instead of 2 years ago on punt returns, he at least deserves competition.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Only if it's a combo deal with Jake Long do I want Bush. The only thing that doesn't make sense is what Arians said about how he wants to use the RB's. Bush has value as a runner but his main attribute is catching the ball, something Arians said was not a priority for his RB's.

 

[az jam]

I'm not big on going after Reggie Bush. I would prefer Mendenhall, Greene, Peyton Hillis or Felix jones over him. We could also get a decent back in the mid rounds of the draft.

 

[kerouac9]

Let's keep politics out of this.

MJ was the one who said we could afford a big contract in FA which goes against the numbers from Spotrac or whoever. He's a direct source not some salary website.

Is this the same MJ who said Monday that the Cards were hot in negotiations with Greg Toler and 24-hours later Kent Somers talked to Toler's agent who said that he hadn't heard from the Cards at all, including at the Combine?

That's MJ's opinion, not an analysis. There are always ways to shoehorn a big FA contract under the cap in Year 1. There's a chasm, though, between what it possible and what is wise.

 

[Southpaw]

Another injury-prone RB yay!

Huh?

 

[Southpaw]

Because Philbin said so. He got tired of Bush's fumbling and went with Thomas. It was a little baffling the way he treated him

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-11-12/sports/fl-mikeb-dolphins-column-1113-20121112_1_joe-philbin-reggie-bush-bush-fumble

As a rookie coach, Philbin committed a faux pas with the benching. He took a boatload of heat for that debacle. Could have been Philbin trying to flex his muscle, and going about it in the wrong way. His rookie debut, as a HC, was a flop. Learning on the job may make him better, but I would hesitate to believe that. Landing Bush would be a major upgrade to this offense. As long as he does not break the bank.

 

[JeffGollin]

Is this the same MJ who said Monday that the Cards were hot in negotiations with Greg Toler and 24-hours later Kent Somers talked to Toler's agent who said that he hadn't heard from the Cards at all, including at the Combine?

That's MJ's opinion, not an analysis. There are always ways to shoehorn a big FA contract under the cap in Year 1. There's a chasm, though, between what it possible and what is wise.

That.

 

[kerouac9]

Take this for what you will, but after thinking about it for 16 hours or so, I think I can say that signing Reggie Bush would be about the only reasonably possible thing that would get me excited to watch Arizona Cardinals 2013 season, at least for a while to see how he'll work out.

Almost any other move would just engage an intellectual excercise of trying to divine who really has final say on Hardy Drive (hint: I'm pretty sure it's Michael Bidwill).

 

[Mitch]

Take this for what you will, but after thinking about it for 16 hours or so, I think I can say that signing Reggie Bush would be about the only reasonably possible thing that would get me excited to watch Arizona Cardinals 2013 season, at least for a while to see how he'll work out.

Almost any other move would just engage an intellectual excercise of trying to divine who really has final say on Hardy Drive (hint: I'm pretty sure it's Michael Bidwill).

Talk about wow.

If you can't get excited for the direction this franchise is taking...and the only "reasonably possible thing" that would excite you ("at least for a little while) would be to watch Reggie Bush...then you really ought to take up Sunday tennis or hitch your pony to another bandwagon.

You made it clear that you wanted to keep CKW this year and, not only that, you felt it was best to re-sign him to a new multi-year deal. That's what would have excited you?

Maybe I'm wrong but I sense a greater excitement surrounding the Cardinals and what they are trying to do than I have felt since Kurt Warner was running the show.

I wanted the Horton/Turner duo---but to be honest, I think Michael Bidwill hit a grand slam with Bruce Arians. This guy exudes enthusiasm and confidence---and to think that Tom Moore is a part of the package and that we now have 3 offensive line coaches and teachers all across the coaching staff---

Bidwill had to spend a lot of money for owed coaching contracts and new added ones---and the way Bidwill has done this with such conviction and determination, I have to salute him.

Arians talks the talk---but you don't win NFL Coach of the Year if you don't walk the walk. He won with a bunch of mostly average at best veterans and precocious rookies.

You know what? There's nothing wrong with getting a little excited.

This team is going to be a joy to watch because they are going to take their shots and they are going to play to win. They are going to be so much better coached----we will actually see evidence of game planning and tweaks and nuances from week to week.

The effort is going to be worth the price of admission alone. And there will be real star power on display on both sides of the ball.

C'mon, K9. Hop on board. Besides, Sunday tennis is over-rated.

Maybe you just need a little pep talk.

Here---check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-gQLqv9f4o

As Kid President says:

"But what if there really are two paths....I want to be on the one that leads to awesome."

"This is your time---this is my time---this is our time."

 

[Buckybird]

Talk about wow.

If you can't get excited for the direction this franchise is taking...and the only "reasonably possible thing" that would excite you ("at least for a little while) would be to watch Reggie Bush...then you really ought to take up Sunday tennis or hitch your pony to another bandwagon.

You made it clear that you wanted to keep CKW this year and, not only that, you felt it was best to re-sign him to a new multi-year deal. That's what would have excited you?

Maybe I'm wrong but I sense a greater excitement surrounding the Cardinals and what they are trying to do than I have felt since Kurt Warner was running the show.

I wanted the Horton/Turner duo---but to be honest, I think Michael Bidwill hit a grand slam with Bruce Arians. This guy exudes enthusiasm and confidence---and to think that Tom Moore is a part of the package and that we now have 3 offensive line coaches and teachers all across the coaching staff---

Bidwill had to spend a lot of money for owed coaching contracts and new added ones---and the way Bidwill has done this with such conviction and determination, I have to salute him.

Arians talks the talk---but you don't win NFL Coach of the Year if you don't walk the walk. He won with a bunch of mostly average at best veterans and precocious rookies.

You know what? There's nothing wrong with getting a little excited.

This team is going to be a joy to watch because they are going to take their shots and they are going to play to win. They are going to be so much better coached----we will actually see evidence of game planning and tweaks and nuances from week to week.

The effort is going to be worth the price of admission alone. And there will be real star power on display on both sides of the ball.

C'mon, K9. Hop on board. Besides, Sunday tennis is over-rated.

Maybe you just need a little pep talk.

Here---check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-gQLqv9f4o

As Kid President says:

"But what if there really are two paths....I want to be on the one that leads to awesome."

"This is your time---this is my time---this is our time."

Mitch, I've always loved your passion, analysis & writings here but IMO there is almost absolute zero reason to be fired up for what lies ahead for our desert Redbirds. Not having a franchise NFL QB almost sinks your team before the season even starts!!!

Positives
1)young talent on defense
2) feisty coach who has hardware
3) #11
4) older coaching who has experience & success

Negatives
1) no legit NFL starting QB
2) terrible Oline...still
3) unproven & injury riddled RBs
4) loss of a proven DC who made them pretty good
5) lack of above average edge rusher
6) new inexperienced secondary?
7) older coaching staff?
8) small amount of cap space
9) Do we have any ILBs besides DWash?
10) looks like a much more inexperienced team IMO

Please explain to me your enthusiasm about this team that Kurt Warner's team didn't have. I'm still thinking this team is 5-11 at best.

 

[Mitch]

Mitch, I've always loved your passion, analysis & writings here but IMO there is almost absolute zero reason to be fired up for what lies ahead for our desert Redbirds. Not having a franchise NFL QB almost sinks your team before the season even starts!!!

Positives
1)young talent on defense
2) feisty coach who has hardware
3) #11
4) older coaching who has experience & success

Negatives
1) no legit NFL starting QB
2) terrible Oline...still
3) unproven & injury riddled RBs
4) loss of a proven DC who made them pretty good
5) lack of above average edge rusher
6) new inexperienced secondary?
7) older coaching staff?
8) small amount of cap space
9) Do we have any ILBs besides DWash?
10) looks like a much more inexperienced team IMO

Please explain to me your enthusiasm about this team that Kurt Warner's team didn't have. I'm still thinking this team is 5-11 at best.

Arians has the gravitas of a head coach---and not only that, he will take this offense into his, Tom Moore's and Harold Goodwin's capable hands and turn this thing around. Watching this offense is going to be a joy. There will be ups and downs for sure...but we will see a totally different product on the field and a much more concerted and creative effort.

Steve Keim now has the reins as GM---he's the best talent evaluator the Cardinals have had and he is going to surprise all of us with the acquisitions he makes. Within the next few years we will have the most talented roster we have ever had in Arizona.

The wizard behind the curtain is our new capologist and director of football administration, Mike Disner---this guy is very clever and smart---we will even ask ourselves at times, how we can afford to add this player or that. Disner will get it done, and he has an excellent assistant in Debbie Pollum.

This new team will not stand pat---they will be aggressive in their attempt to add the right personnel.

Arians says he wants to win now---and he's not just saying it, he means it.

I think there's a more than decent chance he will---if not right away, sooner than we might realistically expect.

I also think that Arizona will finally become the hot spot for NFL free agents that I envisioned after the new stadium was built. Players will be clamoring to come here. MJ was saying the other day that he knows of several UFAs who have Arizona on the top of their lists. This will become a trend, imo. It should have earlier than this, but it all starts now.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Just out of curiosity, how do you know or what are you basing Debbie Pollum being an excellent assistant?

 

[Mitch]

Just out of curiosity, how do you know or what are you basing Debbie Pollum being an excellent assistant?

Here, for starters:

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/20...eal-lead-assistant-from-rams-add-her-to-their

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Here, for starters:

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/20...eal-lead-assistant-from-rams-add-her-to-their

That article sounds like they are giving her more credit for being a female that anything else. The Rams have been a horrible organization for years.

 

[Mitch]

That article sounds like they are giving her more credit for being a female that anything else. The Rams have been a horrible organization for years.

Here---one more time:

"We can crab about it...or we can dance about it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-gQLqv9f4o

 

[Buckybird]

That article sounds like they are giving her more credit for being a female that anything else. The Rams have been a horrible organization for years.

I bet she throws a football better than any of the clowns we have or will have at QB if we add Stanton to the mix of trash.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Here---one more time:

"We can crab about it...or we can dance about it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-gQLqv9f4o

I wasn't ripping on her, I just found it intetresting that she was cited as a reason for excitement. I will agree that a good executive assistant goes a long way to making an office run smoothly.

And no, my wife, who's the executive assistant for the CEO of Wendy's didn't make me write that . However, I may have to copy and paste that for her to use at a later date .