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Me too. You met my wife Linda, seemed like a reasonable person. If I costs us millions, well, it would not be pretty!
Cards cut Floyd
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You're already not the pretty one at your house, we know that! Well, I ain't either...
Just to say it again, Michael, best of luck to you. It can be better, it really can.
CFLredzoned
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Whoever takes him on in 2017 is going to be taking a huge risk. Once you're in the Program, you're nuclear. If they didn't test for alcohol, it wouldn't be so bad. But random tests for alcohol, that's asking alot. You're basically putting all your faith in him to never touch a drink for the next few years. And if he does, that could be a valuable roster spot lost. A guy has to have serious production potential to take that kind of gamble.
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Lord knows a woman would never lie about such things.
And not for nothing, can the Cards just trade their first round pick every year? More often than not their picks end up busts or if they are any good, they end up elsewhere. It's epidemic with this franchise dating back as long as I can remember. I can point to Fitz as the lone exception. PP but his career is far from the back end. We'll see how long he stays.
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Metcalf Rules
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Being an ND fan, I've always liked Floyd.. even though as a Cardinal fan he's been frustrating. Like many on here, I hope he gets the help he needs. Heck, Cris Carter, got cut by Buddy Ryan for off field issues and went on to an HOF career.
I don't know if they could in his case?
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I was thinking something along these lines. Its funny that you are the only other person I have heard say it. I don't think the team knew how bad it was but I definitely think that he has been out of control with (at least) alcohol. I would imagine that Floyd was hiding it. The team probably knew there was a problem but didn't know how bad it was.
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I don't remember Abrahams issue, but Massie wasn't driving...he was sleeping it off in parking lot and I don't recall any earlier incidents with him in college or pros...Dwyer was cut later on, after being on that commissioners exempt list...He never had a history with AZ.
I think more was going on with Floyd than we will ever know...just like the Dwash stuff.
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kerouac9
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Abraham missed training camp because he was in rehab. He was caught passed out at midday in an intersection outside an Atlanta strip club.
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First, I find it ridiculous that we cut him to begin with. The guy has otherwise been a model citizen while in AZ. You can't draft people with Matthieu, past then cut people like Floyd and not expect to raise eyebrows.
What I'm most pissed about though is that year in and year out I watch smart teams like the Patriots go into every draft with quality compensatory picks while we look like dummies with our thumbs in our asses. We are paying him no matter what. They could've just as easily shut his ass down for the year and gotten a pick out of him. He will get signed for the playoffs and help somebody.
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Classless move by an desperate organization looking for scapegoats...as some have pointed out, they didn't cut Bobby Massie or John Abraham, did they? This is BA's move more than anyone's. BA has become the king of double standards---see Drew Butler. Keim has become BA's puppet (this has become so woefully clear)---but what's most surprising is that Michael Bidwill is enabling BA's "all blame goes to the players" petulance. Shame on Bidwill, he should know better.
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Not sure why they did this or what point they are trying to make. The players really like Floyd. This is a very strong statement. It's not a domestic violation, its a drinking problem and he may need help. There may be more to this story than we know. I think there are going to be lots of changes in the off-season and this may just be the start.
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Fair enough.
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Why because of the DUI ? Maybe.
Floyd's play more than warranted it.
Its the same organization that was receiving praise by many 12 months ago, by the way.
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I completely agree.
In this day and age, with guys who are pulling in six figures at a minimum there is zero excuse to have a DUI.
Doesn't anyone remember Leonard Little?
What if Floyd ran into someone and killed them?
I honestly think Floyd's DUI was the perfect excuse to rid themselves of Floyd as they had planned not to offer him a new contract anyway. Think about it, the guy gets caught the way he did and you had no plans to bring him back and you have this supposed zero tolerance policy on stuff like this and Floyd delivers to them the perfect reason to drop his ass. Nice and clean with no repercussions.
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How about Donte Stallworth. He did kill someone and only did a month in jail for it. The one positive is that he manned up and accepted responsibility. But he lost a year of football and then played 3 more seasons.
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Seattle would take him in a hearbeat
Reign Blood
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When we drafted Floyd this drinking problem was the knock on him and now it surfaces. I'm glad he's gone and too many dropped passes this year is what put him in the doghouse with me and this DUI is the straw that broke the camels back. If he would've been lighting it up on the field this DUI could be overlooked but no it's a reason for the breakup.
TJ
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A lot of hypothetical constructs in this post.
Considering that BA, Keim, and MB were unanimous in their decision, this can't be BA's decision alone. The only thing that's "woefully obvious" is that Floyd has been massively underperforming all season to the point in which people were questioning whether or not he checked out. Additionally, Floyd has a history of alcohol abuse, and it would not surprise me if this were an ongoing situation. Arians was Floyd's main defender when fans and media criticized him., which leads me to believe that he knew something was up.
Butler, Abraham, and Massie are incomparable situations for a variety of reasons.
Floyd is, and frankly, has been gone all season. Let's not get pissy because an underachieving, replaceable player was just arrested for DUI.....again.
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TJ
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AsUpRoDiGy
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Exactly right. Floyd made a terrible mistake, and he paid the consequence. Keim literally just came out and said that players, right now, are being evaluated for their passion and drive for the game. And it seems to me that they used Floyd as an example that they're serious.
