Cards one of final 4 teams for Cousins per Schefter

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People keep saying that, but he hasn't said that at all... so I don't get it.
Cousins isn't dumb...he knows this is a business, and he knows how quickly he can go from hero to zero with just one hit. His contract will be front-loaded, no matter which team it is. The difference is...instead of taking $31M from the Browns...he would gladly accept $29-$30M from the Jets/Broncos/Vikings to be on a decent team. He will get at least $60M in the first 2 years of the deal, and he will be the highest paid QB in the league.
 

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Cousins isn't dumb...he knows this is a business, and he knows how quickly he can go from hero to zero with just one hit. His contract will be front-loaded, no matter which team it is. The difference is...instead of taking $31M from the Browns...he would gladly accept $29-$30M from the Jets/Broncos/Vikings to be on a decent team. He will get at least $60M in the first 2 years of the deal, and he will be the highest paid QB in the league.

Not all front loads are the same. There's front loading cap wise, and front loading pay wise.

We can front load him pay wise, we just can't compete on front loading cap wise in the 1st year. The longer the deal, the easier it is to fit him in if we're interested in bidding that high.

Depending on how the CBA plays out for 2021 and beyond, it might be wise to have more loaded in the first three years anyways.


We could pay a high signing bonus to spread things out with a lower base salary.

We could put certain roster bonuses in the 2nd and/or 3rd year when we can afford to take the bulk of the hit for his contract. This might be our best shot where we have offer a competitive signing bonus, smaller base pay the first year, and big roster bonus for at least the 2nd year. It all depends on the years.

If this is a five year deal for say 150 million. We could do something like this. 60 mill signing bonus

1 12m SB+5m salary = 17mill cap hit
2 12m SB+10m salary+18m roster bonus=40m cap hit
3 12m SB+12m salary+15m roster bonus=39m cap hit
4 12m SB+15m salary=27m cap hit
5 12m SB+15m salary=27m cap hit

=150million

93 million in first 2 years (or ~1 year and 1 day)
120 million in first 3 years (or ~2 years and 1 day)

I'm not saying we should do this, I'm just saying if we did this, we could try to structure it along these lines.
 

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Cousins isn't dumb...he knows this is a business, and he knows how quickly he can go from hero to zero with just one hit. His contract will be front-loaded, no matter which team it is. The difference is...instead of taking $31M from the Browns...he would gladly accept $29-$30M from the Jets/Broncos/Vikings to be on a decent team. He will get at least $60M in the first 2 years of the deal, and he will be the highest paid QB in the league.
I'm under no misconception that he's going to come here for $25M a year or anything, just that I don't think he's going to completely select a team based on pay. I can't envision him being on the Jets when all is said and done unless the Cardinals, Vikings, and Broncos just all back out.
 
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The #AZCardinals could offer Kirk Cousins 5 years, $145+M, avg. $29/$30M per year with $90M gtd in the first three years.
 

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Cardinals are pursuing a trade with the Browns for the 4th overall pick. It’ll depend on how the top 3 picks go. We have our eyes on a certain guy.
 

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Mike Jurecki‏Verified account@mikejurecki 28s29 seconds ago
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My guess of quarterbacks average per year.
Cousins $30+M per year
Brees $29M per year (3 yr deal)
Keenum $17-19M
McCarran $17-19M (Browns)
Bradford $12+ (one year, incentives)
McCown $10/12M with incentives
Bridgewater $10-12 per year (2 year)
That's a lot of scratch for McCarron, but I'd be okay with it if Cousins weren't here. Seems to be trending to the Browns though.
 

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Glennon got $15 million a year from the Bears. Bortles just got $18 million a year.

IMO, that sets the floor for a guy walking in the door as your starter.

Releasing Bucannon, Iupati, and Mathieu (latter two designated post June 1) will give the Cardinals around $38 million in cap space for free agency.

Cousins would have to sign a very cap friendly deal for this season which would just squeeze the Cardinals in the following years.
 

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That's a lot of scratch for McCarron, but I'd be okay with it if Cousins weren't here. Seems to be trending to the Browns though.

Why? What has he shown outside of a few games in 2015 to suddenly be worth $19 million? McCarron played on the best team in NCAA history and still couldn’t get drafted before the 5th round. That tells me teams viewed him as a game manager/backup and if he went to ASU he probably wouldn’t have been drafted.
My opinion of SK and his ability to evaluate quarterbacks isn’t that high but I hope to god he wouldn’t give a guy he passed over 4 times and hasn’t thrown a meaningful pass since 2015 a $19 million deal unless he could cut and run like Chicago did with Glennon.
 

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Why? What has he shown outside of a few games in 2015 to suddenly be worth $19 million? McCarron played on the best team in NCAA history and still couldn’t get drafted before the 5th round. That tells me teams viewed him as a game manager/backup and if he went to ASU he probably wouldn’t have been drafted.
My opinion of SK and his ability to evaluate quarterbacks isn’t that high but I hope to god he wouldn’t give a guy he passed over 4 times and hasn’t thrown a meaningful pass since 2015 a $19 million deal unless he could cut and run like Chicago did with Glennon.
I would imagine the deal would be similar to Glennon's, giving us an out. I just don't see any QBs besides McCarron that don't have glaring injury concerns. I can handle watching McCarron game manage his way to 250 yards, 2 TDs, and no INTs with a rookie in development, but I'll have a hard time with Bradford or Bridgewater not even taking the field. I want nothing to do with Keenum, or with McCown.

The guy that I truly want is Cousins.
 

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It's going to be Bradford, McCown, or Bridgewater and a QB drafted early. I could also see the team bringing in a guy like Tom Savage to be QB3.
 
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I would imagine the deal would be similar to Glennon's, giving us an out. I just don't see any QBs besides McCarron that don't have glaring injury concerns. I can handle watching McCarron game manage his way to 250 yards, 2 TDs, and no INTs with a rookie in development, but I'll have a hard time with Bradford or Bridgewater not even taking the field. I want nothing to do with Keenum, or with McCown.

The guy that I truly want is Cousins.

If he put those numbers up consistently I’d have no issue with him as our guy but I doubt that’s the production McCarron delivers.

Keenum’s body of work last year is far more impressive than anything McCarron has shown. I seriously doubt the market for McCarron as a starter is anywhere near as high as it’s being reported. Agree on the injury concerns with the other guys but McCarron ain’t the guy and he’s not worth $19 million. Let Cleveland sign him.

I’m not campaigning for Keenum, but want nothing to do with McCarron.
 

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If he put those numbers up consistently I’d have no issue with him as our guy but I doubt that’s the production McCarron delivers.

Keenum’s body of work last year is far more impressive than anything McCarron has shown. I seriously doubt the market for McCarron as a starter is anywhere near as high as it’s being reported. Agree on the injury concerns with the other guys but McCarron ain’t the guy and he’s not worth $19 million. Let Cleveland sign him.

I’m not campaigning for Keenum, but want nothing to do with McCarron.

McCarron's averages as a starter are essentially those, I even went under with the yardage. And I'm looking at the low number instead of the high number for McCarron. My mindset in all of this is signing McCarron and drafting a rookie.

Just out of curiosity, who do you want as a free agent QB?
 

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