Cards Post Super Bowl Direction

[JohnnyCakes]

Two total non-factors IMO. We need a strong 4 man rush. Right now we have one piece of this, the 3 technique in D. Robinson, if he develops. Philly showed the blueprint, have a DT so big, strong, and disruptive that he eats 2 blockers and still caves the front of the line, leaving the other 3 rushers in 1 on 1s.

If the FO agrees that D. Rob is the 3 of the future, they need to fill out the other spots. Consider they probably think BJ and Zaven tag-team one edge spot, that leaves the power DT and a dominating edge rusher to be gained in this offseason.

very much agree

 

[kerouac9]

Is this one of those worlds in the multiverse you regularly (and rightly) criticize others of creating when there’s no on field evidence.

I apply the multiverse tag when someone says "If that penalty hadn't been called we win the game." That's real multiverse stuff.

Forward-looking, you're just discussing probabilities. Barrett Browning is 25 and has seasons with 5.0 and 4.5 sacks (which were marred by injuries). Jost Sweat is 27, played around much higher talent(ish-- some of those Denver defenses were no joke), and has one double-digit sack season.

Sweat profiles to me as Markus Golden. I loved Golden when he was here more than many -- maybe most. But I'm not going to pay him like he's Chandler Jones, either.

Yeah I think Sweat will command at least $17M+ as he is the only real FA option at Edge this offseason. He won't be cheap that is for sure!

I would still pay Sweat that money and I would also pay Browning. That would give the Cardinals 2 solid options at edge to pair with a big question mark in BJ who is coming off another injury. This would also free up the Cardinals draft picks allowing them to take the BPA vs forcing an early pick at Edge. Thus I would select some combination of OT and DT with the first two picks depending on who falls where.

I don't know. It's crazy that Sweat is a seven-year vet and only 27 years old. Started three games over the first three years of his career.

I don't think it makes sense to pay your Edge room $30 million+ per year (which is about what Browning, Sweat, and Collins would add up to) and not have anyone you expect opposing coordinators to lose sleep over. I don't think Josh Sweat really solves your problem.

 

[kerouac9]

Two total non-factors IMO. We need a strong 4 man rush. Right now we have one piece of this, the 3 technique in D. Robinson, if he develops. Philly showed the blueprint, have a DT so big, strong, and disruptive that he eats 2 blockers and still caves the front of the line, leaving the other 3 rushers in 1 on 1s.

If the FO agrees that D. Rob is the 3 of the future, they need to fill out the other spots. Consider they probably think BJ and Zaven tag-team one edge spot, that leaves the power DT and a dominating edge rusher to be gained in this offseason.

I don't know how you can convince yourself that D. Rob is part of the solution but not think that Beej can be another option. Beej and Collins played across from each other most of the time two years ago.

 

[BritCard]

Yeah I think Sweat will command at least $17M+ as he is the only real FA option at Edge this offseason. He won't be cheap that is for sure!

I would still pay Sweat that money and I would also pay Browning. That would give the Cardinals 2 solid options at edge to pair with a big question mark in BJ who is coming off another injury. This would also free up the Cardinals draft picks allowing them to take the BPA vs forcing an early pick at Edge. Thus I would select some combination of OT and DT with the first two picks depending on who falls where.

You could likely get Reddick and Browning for the cost of Sweat.

The other concern about Sweat is he's never been the guy, he's peaked at 11 sacks on one of the most stacked D lines in the league. On any other D line he's going to be Baron Browning.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I apply the multiverse tag when someone says "If that penalty hadn't been called we win the game." That's real multiverse stuff.

Forward-looking, you're just discussing probabilities. Barrett Browning is 25 and has seasons with 5.0 and 4.5 sacks (which were marred by injuries). Jost Sweat is 27, played around much higher talent(ish-- some of those Denver defenses were no joke), and has one double-digit sack season.

Sweat profiles to me as Markus Golden. I loved Golden when he was here more than many -- maybe most. But I'm not going to pay him like he's Chandler Jones, either.



I don't know. It's crazy that Sweat is a seven-year vet and only 27 years old. Started three games over the first three years of his career.

I don't think it makes sense to pay your Edge room $30 million+ per year (which is about what Browning, Sweat, and Collins would add up to) and not have anyone you expect opposing coordinators to lose sleep over. I don't think Josh Sweat really solves your problem.

Would prefer Milton Williams and edge at 16….then go o line at 47 and wr in the third…bet the price went up for Milton after the Super Bowl…I offer a 4 year 96 million dollar contract and see if he bites

 

[Stout]

I am curious to see if we see a greater sense of urgency from Monti this offseason.

Be ready for disappointment. The passive ho-hum approach is Monti's approach. He makes the human snail look fast

Okay, maybe not, but they have similar urgency levels lol

 

[kerouac9]

Would prefer Milton Williams and edge at 16….then go o line at 47 and wr in the third…bet the price went up for Milton after the Super Bowl…I offer a 4 year 96 million dollar contract and see if he bites

I know he had a good Super Bowl, but he's started 19 games over four NFL seasons. He had five sacks last year. You want to pay him like Derrick Brown and Quinnen Williams. That's crazytown.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Would prefer Milton Williams and edge at 16….then go o line at 47 and wr in the third…bet the price went up for Milton after the Super Bowl…I offer a 4 year 96 million dollar contract and see if he bites

He'd do more than bite. He'd swallow it whole. 24mill/year is pretty elite. I doubt him or Sweat crack the 20mill mark. Nor should they.

 

[GatorAZ]

Bring in Reddick on incentives and squeeze out whatever he’s got left for a year. Re-sign Browning and see if year 5 is the charm. Draft a pass rusher with one of our first two picks. There’s no quick fix unless we’re trading a superstar edge.

 

[602 Native]

This would be a no-brainer which means it won't happen.