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Three.

Won't bet, though. Don't have an avatar.

So you have no courage of your convictions. Is two quarterbacks taken in the second half of the draft really a "run"? Is your assumption essentially that Bridgewater has fallen behind Carr?

I would guess three will be taken with the top # being 4. Cleveland is taking a first round QB. Someone is drafting Bortles in round 1. Someone is drafting Manziel in round 1. Someone will want to move ahead of either Houston, Jacksonville (rnd 2) or Cleveland (#26) to grab a QB.

My guess Bortles, Manziel and Carr go in round 1 with Bridgewater going round 2 ala, his brotha from anotha motha, Andy Dalton. (they are so similar to each other interms of skillset.)

Yeah... I just don't know. I don't think that this league is that QB needy. The last draft that had four QBs taken in the first featured generational talents in Andrew Luck and RG3, then a solid guy in Ryan Tannehill, then Brandon Weeden.

The draft before that was 2011 with Cam Newton (generational talent) and then three guys who compare to the bozos in this draft in Ponder (Bridgewater), Gabbert (Bortles), and Jake Locker (Manziel).

I think that GMs are largely too smart these days to get sucked in on this stuff.
 

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There will be three QBs in the first, at the very least. Maybe four. Still not completely sold on Bridgewater falling out of the first round.
 

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So you have no courage of your convictions. Is two quarterbacks taken in the second half of the draft really a "run"? Is your assumption essentially that Bridgewater has fallen behind Carr?



Yeah... I just don't know. I don't think that this league is that QB needy. The last draft that had four QBs taken in the first featured generational talents in Andrew Luck and RG3, then a solid guy in Ryan Tannehill, then Brandon Weeden.

The draft before that was 2011 with Cam Newton (generational talent) and then three guys who compare to the bozos in this draft in Ponder (Bridgewater), Gabbert (Bortles), and Jake Locker (Manziel).

I think that GMs are largely too smart these days to get sucked in on this stuff.

The courage of my convictions are not wasted on a mindless, albeit entertaining pursuit.

Yes. I think Carr goes before TB.
 

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Avatar wager, then? How many QBs do you wager will be taken in the first round?

I think I have something out on avatar from the draft until training camp, but I'll wager my avatar through the preseason period against your avatar from the draft until training camp.

I will do it. I say 3 are taken in first.
 

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People will want the 5th year option on the QBs so yes I say 3 as well.
 

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I will do it. I say 3 are taken in first.

I think that 3.5 is a reasonable over/under for QBs in the first round in this draft. I'd probably take the under, but if someone anticipates a couple of QBs going in the first 60% of the draft and then there being a "run" at the end of the round, I would think that they'd believe that four or five were going to be taken.

3 seems like a reasonable number, but if I were being aggressive, I'd guess 2. You certainly don't want to be the team taking the 4th first-round quarterback in a draft class, based on recent history.

With a draft this deep, I find it odd that so many people think that teams are going to be eager to give up assets for flawed prospects like Carr. Is Carr that much better a prospect than Bridgewater, Mettenberger, Murray, or McCarron? Why?
 

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Avatar wager, then? How many QBs do you wager will be taken in the first round?

I think I have something out on avatar from the draft until training camp, but I'll wager my avatar through the preseason period against your avatar from the draft until training camp.

Avatar wager?

I say there will be 3, or more, QB's selected in the first round of this year's draft.
 

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Avatar wager?

I say there will be 3, or more, QB's selected in the first round of this year's draft.

I'll wager on 4, I can't do it on 3. I think that if no QB is taken in the Top 10, you'll likely see 3 QBs taken in the first round. If two QBs come off the board in the first 12 picks, then you'll likely see 4.
 

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So you have no courage of your convictions. Is two quarterbacks taken in the second half of the draft really a "run"? Is your assumption essentially that Bridgewater has fallen behind Carr?



Yeah... I just don't know. I don't think that this league is that QB needy. The last draft that had four QBs taken in the first featured generational talents in Andrew Luck and RG3, then a solid guy in Ryan Tannehill, then Brandon Weeden.

The draft before that was 2011 with Cam Newton (generational talent) and then three guys who compare to the bozos in this draft in Ponder (Bridgewater), Gabbert (Bortles), and Jake Locker (Manziel).

I think that GMs are largely too smart these days to get sucked in on this stuff.

I don't think this group is that good, BUT I also think there will be several teams after pick 19 who are looking to trade back which should drive the price to move up, down. A deep draft can make moving up 10 picks easier because a 3rd round pick carries more value. For example, 33 to 20 probably costs a 3rd and a possible 7th. Not a ton if Bortles, Carr or Manziel is there and you liked him, just not as a top 10 guy.
 

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I don't think this group is that good, BUT I also think there will be several teams after pick 19 who are looking to trade back which should drive the price to move up, down. A deep draft can make moving up 10 picks easier because a 3rd round pick carries more value. For example, 33 to 20 probably costs a 3rd and a possible 7th. Not a ton if Bortles, Carr or Manziel is there and you liked him, just not as a top 10 guy.

Oh, see, I think that a high third round pick is going to be insanely valuable to these teams. A WR or CB that is picked with the 66th overall selection is likely to be an immediate starter for you. You're giving up two ostensible Day 1 starters to get a really imperfect QB prospect. That doesn't make sense to me. Particularly if there are multiple guys available. If a QB doesn't go in the top 15 picks, there will likely only be 2 QBs selected in the first round.
 

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with the pay scale slotting and contract terms I can see the last 10 picks of the first being where most QB's are taken from here on out....keeps the cost down, but allows an extra year of rights...giving teams a year to train the QB...

of course,...world beaters will still be top five picks
 

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Back up in case D-Wash is suspended. I would rather take Chris Borland. The guy has one foot in the grave already.
 

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I'll wager on 4, I can't do it on 3. I think that if no QB is taken in the Top 10, you'll likely see 3 QBs taken in the first round. If two QBs come off the board in the first 12 picks, then you'll likely see 4.

I'll take that action...

3, or less, QB's selected in the first round and you win.
4, or more, QB's selected in the first round and I win.
 

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I'll take that action...

3, or less, QB's selected in the first round and you win.
4, or more, QB's selected in the first round and I win.

Done. If I lose the bet to BB, you'll choose the avatar from training camp through the preseason. If I win that bet and lose this one, you'll choose my avatar from Friday through the opening of training camp.

If I win, I pick your avatar from Friday through the opening of camp.

Deal?
 

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