Cards vs. Vikings

[40yearfan]

I think the Cards chances of winning this contest on Thursday are very slim. They won't play their starters (other than 1 or 2 series) and after last week really have nothing to prove. The second and third stringers will play almost the whole game and the coaches will use the players performance to judge who will stay and who the last 12 cuts will be.

On the other hand, the Vikes will be playing in front of a home crowd, have a record of 1 and 2 for this preseason and will try to go into the season with a blow-out win to encourage their team and encourage ticket sales.

My prediction for the score:

Vikes 27

Cards 10

Comments??

 

[RugbyMuffin]

CARDINALS SLAUGHTER ALL!!!!!!! :twisted:

 

[Jttsaz]

probably pretty accurate...I do think Mac will push these guys hard but the Metrodome is a tough place to play....I don't put much stock in this game..I've seen enough of the Cards so far this preseason to be impressed...

 

[PortlandCardFan]

I wouldn't want my starters on that damn field any longer than they have to. Didn't we loose Coby Rhineheart and Rob Moore to knee injures there a few years ago??

We still kick their arse!!

Cards 17
Vikes 15

 

[AzCards21]

I kind of agree but Minn. would be foolish to leave their starters in any longer than a couple of series also. Playing rulette with starters in a meaningless game is not smart.

I bet our third string kicks their third strings arse.

Cards-17
Vikes- 10

 

[kerouac9]

I think that, as bad as it sounds, a total, dominating, demoralizing loss (while everyone stays healthy) would be the best thing for this team.

A lot of guys on the roster are either new or haven't been with the team very long. They know how to win, preseason-style, but they don't know how to lose. With a team this young, you can't predict how a loss is going to affect the team, especially an ugly loss. Like it or not, the last half of the season, with all those ugly losses, demoralized the club, and they gave up long before the Broncos game.

This team needs a good, old-fashioned @ss-kicking so that they know how it feels before the season starts, and they can hear the questions from the media after the game, and know how it feels, so that they'll be better able to recover from losses, regular season-style.

 

[cardzfan]

That artificial turf is a killer. Just play the scrubbs

 

[Mrospi]

Cards 24 Vikes 14..............TD's By Shipp, Freddie Jones, and Boldin.............Cards DL records 5 sacks!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by kerouac9
I think that, as bad as it sounds, a total, dominating, demoralizing loss (while everyone stays healthy) would be the best thing for this team.

A lot of guys on the roster are either new or haven't been with the team very long. They know how to win, preseason-style, but they don't know how to lose. With a team this young, you can't predict how a loss is going to affect the team, especially an ugly loss. Like it or not, the last half of the season, with all those ugly losses, demoralized the club, and they gave up long before the Broncos game.

This team needs a good, old-fashioned @ss-kicking so that they know how it feels before the season starts, and they can hear the questions from the media after the game, and know how it feels, so that they'll be better able to recover from losses, regular season-style.

This post is hilarious. Yeah, a crushing loss is just what the doctor ordered for this franchise. I'm looking forward to your glowing review Friday morning of a 55-7 loss.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Rivercard
This post is hilarious. Yeah, a crushing loss is just what the doctor ordered for this franchise. I'm looking forward to your glowing review Friday morning of a 55-7 loss.

I'd rather have a 55-7 loss now than a 55-7 loss five times to end the season.

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by kerouac9
I'd rather have a 55-7 loss now than a 55-7 loss five times to end the season.

Me too but I don't see how they are related.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Rivercard
Me too but I don't see how they are related.

Read my post! I think that this team, especially the young guys, need to know how it feels to lose. The Cards never looked the same after the 27-6 drubbing they took from Seattle at home. They lost the following three games by a combined 34-128, and only beat, in overtime, the probable worst team in football over the next seven games. The team was demorlized from that point forward, and had no where to go. The defense, especially, looked lost. Part of that has to be a psychological effect of getting destroyed. I think that getting blown out and knowing how it feels is a positive experience for the correct team with the correct coach. If Mac can't turn a drubbing that doesn't count into a positive learning experience, he deserves to lose his job. Lex posted a similar thought on another thread.

 

[Jttsaz]

I think the best would be to have the starters looks good for the series or 2 they play and for the Cards to win...BUT NO INJURIES!!

 

[Pariah]

Final:
Cards: 16
Minn: 10

Starters:
Minn: 7
Cards: 3

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Read my post! I think that this team, especially the young guys, need to know how it feels to lose. The Cards never looked the same after the 27-6 drubbing they took from Seattle at home. They lost the following three games by a combined 34-128, and only beat, in overtime, the probable worst team in football over the next seven games. The team was demorlized from that point forward, and had no where to go. The defense, especially, looked lost. Part of that has to be a psychological effect of getting destroyed. I think that getting blown out and knowing how it feels is a positive experience for the correct team with the correct coach. If Mac can't turn a drubbing that doesn't count into a positive learning experience, he deserves to lose his job. Lex posted a similar thought on another thread.

Kerouac,
I read your post and I enjoyed it - but I just don't understand how your theory could have any merit. You are in rare form today with your wierd theories. If you are correct then why aren't teams all over the league begging to get beat by 40 points this week? And what makes you think we would bounce back any better after a preseason drubbing than we did to last years regular season drubbings? Wouldn't it be better psychologically to play a good game and be competitive? I think you are just at the computer making stuff up for amusement - if so, you are very good at it

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Read my post! I think that this team, especially the young guys, need to know how it feels to lose. The Cards never looked the same after the 27-6 drubbing they took from Seattle at home. They lost the following three games by a combined 34-128, and only beat, in overtime, the probable worst team in football over the next seven games. The team was demorlized from that point forward, and had no where to go. The defense, especially, looked lost. Part of that has to be a psychological effect of getting destroyed. I think that getting blown out and knowing how it feels is a positive experience for the correct team with the correct coach. If Mac can't turn a drubbing that doesn't count into a positive learning experience, he deserves to lose his job. Lex posted a similar thought on another thread.

And while I want to win every game...I think this has some merit although I don't think the Cards need an ass-kicking to learn lessons. Just a loss. Simply to find out how they bounce back and what buttons the coaches need to push after a loss to get them fired right back up.

A loss wouldn't be a horrible thing right now.

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by AZCB34
And while I want to win every game...I think this has some merit although I don't think the Cards need an ass-kicking to learn lessons. Just a loss. Simply to find out how they bounce back and what buttons the coaches need to push after a loss to get them fired right back up.

A loss wouldn't be a horrible thing right now.

I Still think a confindent 4-0 would be better but OK - I'll buy this explanation for a loss

 

[TXCardinalsFan]

I say Vikings 0 mini-Ditkas 238.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Rivercard
I Still think a confindent 4-0 would be better but OK

Totally agree! 4-0 would be much better for confidence and momentum heading into the year especially with our recent rash of injuries. To me it would be more beneficial than a loss would be!

 

[AzCards21]

Originally posted by Shane H
Totally agree! 4-0 would be much better for confidence and momentum heading into the year especially with our recent rash of injuries. To me it would be more beneficial than a loss would be!

I agree. I want these guys to walk onto Ford feild believing they are much better than the Lions. I don't want any lingering doubts.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by Rivercard
I Still think a confindent 4-0 would be better but OK - I'll buy this explanation for a loss

Don't get me wrong...I want a win.

But with additional time after MIN, this may be a good time to really watch what happens when they lose a game. I would hate to have their first loss be DET and then find out they take losses harder than most and end up starting 0-3.

Still my utter hatred and contempt for the Vikings makes me ant Pace to drive Culpepper into the parking lot those boneheads call afield. Oh and while they are at it, Dexter, could you just pummel Moss coming across the middle? Makes me want a 49-0 crushing by the boys in red.

I hate the Vikings.

 

[bigredjane]

Vikes game--

The combo of Josh McCown and the Vikings astro turf scares me. Let's pray no one gets hurt and we get a vet to back up Blake soon!

 

[Jim O]

Originally posted by kerouac9
This team needs a good, old-fashioned @ss-kicking so that they know how it feels before the season starts, and they can hear the questions from the media after the game, and know how it feels, so that they'll be better able to recover from losses, regular season-style.

If there was a way to disagree more than 100% I would. We have been getting "old fashioned, ass kickings" for a long time. I want to get used to winning. We have all felt the losing feeling too damn much. While it is preseason, winning does wonders for the young guys.

 

[AzCards21]

Originally posted by Jim Omohundro
If there was a way to disagree more than 100% I would. We have been getting "old fashioned, ass kickings" for a long time. I want to get used to winning. We have all felt the losing feeling too damn much. While it is preseason, winning does wonders for the young guys.

We've got losing down pat. I agree with trying to learn to deal with winning for a change.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Jim Omohundro
If there was a way to disagree more than 100% I would. We have been getting "old fashioned, ass kickings" for a long time. I want to get used to winning. We have all felt the losing feeling too damn much. While it is preseason, winning does wonders for the young guys.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but if I see defensive players doing that stupid "Cardinal Wing" (or whatever it was) before we clinch the division this season, I'm going to bring this up again.

The true test of a team is not how it handles victory, that's the easy part. The true test is how it handles defeat. The Titans lost four in a row after a big season-opening defeat of Philly by a combined score of 80-135, including an overtime heartbreaker to Cleveland. The New York Jets lost four in a row after a big season-opening victory to in-state rival Buffalo by a combined score of 38-131. The league was ready to close the coffin on these teams, but they rallied around themselves and thier coaches to win thier respective divisions. Green Bay coasted to a 12-win season and basically clinched in November. They were ousted by the upstart, Wild Card Atlanta Falcons for the first playoff loss at Lambeau in history.

This game doesn't matter. Losses build character in a team. Wins build arrogance (remember how stupid the Cards looked in the San Fran game after they were caught strutting around after a 4-2 record?). I'll take a meaningless, character-building, injury-free loss over a meaningless August win and later loss of confidence after the first double-digit blowout.