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Of course not, I never said as much. I was referring to a specific post. C'mon Cheese.

felt like that's what you were doing. Daves always been more a "company man" and me and him disagree about the little things when watching games... and despite the fact that he's a rocket scientist, I'm always right in our conversations.
 

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Calais Campbell = Dan Williams

Immediately after losing him-
"Defense will not be as good"
"Can't replace his role on the team"
"Don't understand football if you don't see the importance of his contribution"
Etc, etc, etc...

Year later-
"Who?"
 

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Calais Campbell = Dan Williams

Immediately after losing him-
"Defense will not be as good"
"Can't replace his role on the team"
"Don't understand football if you don't see the importance of his contribution"
Etc, etc, etc...

Year later-
"Who?"
Comparing Calais' importance to Big Dans is laughable
 

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Way overpaid...I like Calais but I believe Chandler was the right one to pay. Only thing I'm really gonna miss is Calais big ass paw blocking kicks.
 

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Way overpaid...I like Calais but I believe Chandler was the right one to pay. Only thing I'm really gonna miss is Calais big ass paw blocking kicks.

He's only blocked like one in the last 3 to 4 years so you won't miss much
 

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also, keep in mind that Vernon signed his deal last year, and contracts usually only get bigger the next year, especially when the cap continues to balloon the way it has this year.

My point is that CJ's take home $$$ is probably as high or higher than Vernon.
 

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So..Should we be in the FA or Draft market for a 6-7 295 lb interior lineman to fill the specialized role vacated by CC?

Or should we consider CC to be an irreplaceable freak of nature and return to a more traditional defensive front.
 

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So..Should we be in the FA or Draft market for a 6-7 295 lb interior lineman to fill the specialized role vacated by CC?

Or should we consider CC to be an irreplaceable freak of nature and return to a more traditional defensive front.


Margus Hunt of the Bengals...

former second round pick...good run stopper... just finished his rookie contract............ has not shown outstanding development,... but has yet to hit his prime... 6'7" 275
might be had relatively cheap
 

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Are you seriously going to claim that "the Cardinals didn't get any discount", when the very source you quote says that they GOT a discount, albeit not much of one?!? THIS IS EXACTLY MY POINT!



Yes, it IS SIMPLE. The THREAT of a franchise tag is NOT as good as actually applying it. Otherwise every team with multiple big-name free agents-to-be could use the THREAT of the tag to leverage ALL of them. But that's not reality. Until the tag is ACTUALLY APPLIED, each of the players have MORE LEVERAGE. Once the tag is applied, the players have LESS leverage than if they were free agents, and ONLY THEN are willing to sign SLIGHTLY below-market deals. Below-market meaning, below what they would have signed on the FREE market as unrestricted free agents.

I've explained this ad-nauseam, but if you still don't get it, that's fine. I think everyone else reading this is tired of the discussion, so i'm out.

...dbs

So true after the tag is applied, the player has no leverage. After the tag the player has to start looking for security, and playing on the tag only offers it for one year.
 
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