Challenge: Who better than Levi Brown ?

[Stout]

This. Kevin Kolb made Levi look worse than he was playing early in the season. The coaching staff seems happy with him. We're not going to hang the future of the franchise on him, but people suggesting that we'd be just as good with Jeremy Bridges over there or D'Anthony Baptiste don't see what Levi Brown CAN do.

You're off base here. Bridges is no world-beater, but he's better than Brown. Since we do have Bridges, I don't see why everyone should be wringing their hands in panic. We already have a guy just as good as and, IMO, better than Brown, on the roster.

 

[Buckybird]

You're off base here. Bridges is no world-beater, but he's better than Brown. Since we do have Bridges, I don't see why everyone should be wringing their hands in panic. We already have a guy just as good as and, IMO, better than Brown, on the roster.

I agree, Bridges definitely is as good/bad as Levi however you want to look at it. People tend to forget Bridges started the GB playoff game at LT, not Brown when we rolled 51 on their ass!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You're off base here. Bridges is no world-beater, but he's better than Brown. Since we do have Bridges, I don't see why everyone should be wringing their hands in panic. We already have a guy just as good as and, IMO, better than Brown, on the roster.

No he's not. Bridges has never began a season as a starter and has been released at least 3 times, spent a season on the inactive list, and waived once. If the Cards released Bridges he wouldn't get 1/4 the money Levi will receive. You may not like Levi but at least be sensible about it.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He protected the blind side with the help of a tight end and frequently a running back. Watch the film on him and you'll see a TE lined up beside him 80% of the time or more.

You don't see that with Matt Kalil, and you don't see it with Riley Reiff.

Not even close. I've been watching alot of his film and he doesn't have help very much in the passing game. Even when a TE or H back is lined up by him, they didn't chip or help very often. They mostly just went out on a pass route. On running plays the TE would block but that's normal.

The thing I like best about Martin is he's very consistent getting off the ball and settling into his stance. He's has great foot movement too. From what I saw, when he does get beat, it's usually to the inside. In the run game, he's not a power drive blocker, but by no means weak or getting bullied, and is a very good positional blocker and good at walling off his man from the run play.

 

[kerouac9]

Not even close. I've been watching alot of his film and he doesn't have help very much in the passing game. Even when a TE or H back is lined up by him, they didn't chip or help very often. They mostly just went out on a pass route. On running plays the TE would block but that's normal.

The thing I like best about Martin is he's very consistent getting off the ball and settling into his stance. He's has great foot movement too. From what I saw, when he does get beat, it's usually to the inside. In the run game, he's not a power drive blocker, but by no means weak or getting bullied, and is a very good positional blocker and good at walling off his man from the run play.

Even when the TE doesn't chip, having a TE in the position next to the LT helps the LT, because it cuts off the outside edge for the opposing pass rusher. Defensive end is a position of angles, and having a TE limits those angles.

You don't see Reiff and Kalil getting help every single down like you do with Martin, and that has to be a concern.

 

[Duckjake]

No he's not. Bridges has never began a season as a starter and has been released at least 3 times, spent a season on the inactive list, and waived once. If the Cards released Bridges he wouldn't get 1/4 the money Levi will receive. You may not like Levi but at least be sensible about it.

I don't know Cbus. Bridges filled in for Brown one game last season and both Donald and I commented on how Bridges looked better than Brown. The odd thing was that Bridges didn't look as good at RT as he did when filling in at LT. He was making the same mistakes that Keith did which is what really got me to believing it was the coaching not the players that were the problem.

As for being released or used as a relief blocker, you know as well as I do that coaches form an opinion on a player and it's like pulling teeth to get them to change it.

Regardless the Cards have had a first round Left Tackle starting 9 of the last 12 seasons with the only real success coming with the guys not taken in the first round at LT. So as far as I'm concerned there is really no need for Arizona to take a LT in the first round this year unless he really is BPA.

 

[juza76]

i m upset cause they didnt draft in later rounds any tackle players in the last drafts...its very difficult to sign good tackle in free agency cause as the pass rushers every teams they keeep them...anyway we are a passing team so if brown is good as run blocker is horrible in pass protection..so anyone is better then him...even i dont know why they like tackle over 320 lb..i think for pass protection are better tackle around 300/310 lb so they are more agile and not easily beaten by quick rushers

 

[Stout]

No he's not. Bridges has never began a season as a starter and has been released at least 3 times, spent a season on the inactive list, and waived once. If the Cards released Bridges he wouldn't get 1/4 the money Levi will receive. You may not like Levi but at least be sensible about it.

Duckjake pretty much nailed the reply to this. I do believe Bridges started (I think it was in Carolina). Also, he has IMO played better than Levi 'Turnstile' Brown here at LT. I am certainly not trusting Russ 'Levi is better than Joe Thomas' Grimm to have backed the right player at the position.

I think Bridges is better than Levi, and is a fallback option. You don't. It seems like the team feels more like I do, or at least feels more like I do given the stupid, idiotic money Brown will get. Hopefully he'll stay in the NFCW, because that will mean some team in our division got majorly hosed.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't know Cbus. Bridges filled in for Brown one game last season and both Donald and I commented on how Bridges looked better than Brown. The odd thing was that Bridges didn't look as good at RT as he did when filling in at LT. He was making the same mistakes that Keith did which is what really got me to believing it was the coaching not the players that were the problem.

As for being released or used as a relief blocker, you know as well as I do that coaches form an opinion on a player and it's like pulling teeth to get them to change it.

Regardless the Cards have had a first round Left Tackle starting 9 of the last 12 seasons with the only real success coming with the guys not taken in the first round at LT. So as far as I'm concerned there is really no need for Arizona to take a LT in the first round this year unless he really is BPA.

That was only 1 game though. If he was out there every week, he'd be exposed. Matt Flynn looked great for Rodgers in week 16, that doesn't mean he's better than him.

As for Bridges being released, the concern is that it has been with 3 or 4 different teams so more than 1 coach has formed that opinion of him.

I don't think our LT play has been good the last nie years but I also don't think it has been as bad as some make it out to be. I wanted them to keep Davis and I would like it of they kept Brown. I agree about not reaching for LT at 13(Mike Adams) and should take the BPA.