Channing Frye bother you?

[NashDishesDimes]

Of all the FA's that left this year the only one that IMO should have gone was Frye. He is the most one dimensional NBA player i have ever seen in my entire career of watching and playing basketball. He cant play defense, rebound, post up, shoot a mid-range jump shot, cut, be consistent or anything. He simply shoots threes if and only if the ball is delivered perfectly to his chest within perfect rhythm and is wide open. In other words, if Nash doesnt break down the "D" and throw some rediculously beautiful pass to Frye right between the numbers then he is completely useless. On top of it all, the guy is streaky even with his one niche.

Not trying to bash the suns i love hte way everyone else looks considering the personel they have and put up a fight against LA tonight but IMO i just want to cholk when im forced to watch Channing Frye try and play basketball...

 

[jagu]

HELLLLLLL YEA!!! I can't watch the Suns when he is on the floor. I was hoping they would have let him go but we are stuck with him for a while now. He isn't even that good from 3, how many wide open 3's has he missed in the last 2 years. Yea he can shoot when he gets hot. Any other time its brick after brick after brick followed by some pretty atrocious defense.

 

[joshstmarie]

Sooooo basically youve never watched frye pre-suns. By no means am I a frye homer but Im getting pretty sick of people clowning on the guy when youve known since the day he laced em up for us that hes a GREAT 3pt shooter that is an average rebounder and an average defender. What do you want from the guy? Its pretty tough to get in a rhythm when youre only in the game for 5 minutes at a time.

 

[jagu]

Sooooo basically youve never watched frye pre-suns. By no means am I a frye homer but Im getting pretty sick of people clowning on the guy when youve known since the day he laced em up for us that hes a GREAT 3pt shooter that is an average rebounder and an average defender. What do you want from the guy? Its pretty tough to get in a rhythm when youre only in the game for 5 minutes at a time.

He isn't an average defender. He is always out of position and he rarely boxes out and goes for the rebound only to be beat by the man behind him. His IQ level on defense is extremely low as well, it shows on the court. When your 6 foot 10 , you shouldn't be prancing around like a pony and afraid to shoot. He should be held accountable for everything because we aren't the ones getting millions to just shoot 3 pointers. I'll clown on Frye until he leaves, dude simply sucks and it frustrates me when he is putting up bricks and then on a run, with the momentum swinging our way, he clanks a wide open 3 pointer. This has happened numerous times in 2 seasons. Can he shoot 3's? Definitely. Does he do enough on the court to offset a bad shooting night? Definitely not. He is a liability. I rather play a defender than have Frye there coming off the bench.

I think Rolo will be a good defender in the future. He has all the makings of a terrific center. That's about it. All the other big men on the Suns are pretty bad defenders and rebounders. Warrick is probably the next best thing. I wish we never even re-signed Frye. The Suns can do without his offense and also his defense.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Yes I probally said f u frye a ton during the game last night, the guy misses so many open shots way to waste 35 million suns ugh.

 

[Covert Rain]

He isn't an average defender. He is always out of position and he rarely boxes out and goes for the rebound only to be beat by the man behind him. His IQ level on defense is extremely low as well, it shows on the court. When your 6 foot 10 , you shouldn't be prancing around like a pony and afraid to shoot. He should be held accountable for everything because we aren't the ones getting millions to just shoot 3 pointers. I'll clown on Frye until he leaves, dude simply sucks and it frustrates me when he is putting up bricks and then on a run, with the momentum swinging our way, he clanks a wide open 3 pointer. This has happened numerous times in 2 seasons. Can he shoot 3's? Definitely. Does he do enough on the court to offset a bad shooting night? Definitely not. He is a liability. I rather play a defender than have Frye there coming off the bench.

I think Rolo will be a good defender in the future. He has all the makings of a terrific center. That's about it. All the other big men on the Suns are pretty bad defenders and rebounders. Warrick is probably the next best thing. I wish we never even re-signed Frye. The Suns can do without his offense and also his defense.

Frye was never brought in here to become a 3 point threat. That was discovered after he got here. His original job was to help give the Suns another big body in the paint. That is what fans wanted from the guy. His 3 point threat ended up being one of the only things he added to the team aside from the occasional good rebounding game. So, that worked for last year with a team taking one last run at it. However, that team is gone. This team stands no chance at getting a title.

Frye never delivered on what he was originally brought here for. Do we really even need him? We have so many freaking fowards on this team with similar skills. He doesn't bring anything else. We just tied up cap space to keep this guy which is what I don't really get.

Hell...if Frye wants more playing time...let him play himself into it. That is the one thing I have liked about Gentry. If guys deserve more playing time he gives them an opportunity for the most part to earn it. If Frye is only coming in the last 5 minutes of a quarter, I have to believe it's because guys are outplaying him in practice and deserve the time more than he does.

 

[Catlover]

Frye was never brought in here to become a 3 point threat. That was discovered after he got here. His original job was to help give the Suns another big body in the paint. That is what fans wanted from the guy. His 3 point threat ended up being one of the only things he added to the team aside from the occasional good rebounding game. So, that worked for last year with a team taking one last run at it. However, that team is gone. This team stands no chance at getting a

Was this information in a press release? Frye was an excellent shooter in college and showed very good range. He'd already failed in both New York and in Portland when they tried to turn him into a traditional inside guy. Despite the fact that he had not previously been used from distance it stands to reason the team might have pursued him, at least in part, for that very reason.

 

[BC867]

It is bad enough that our Small Forwards have to play out of position at Power Forward. But when Frye is on the Floor, we literally have no Center either.

I don't blame Frye for that. I blame a short-sighted management philosophy, one which has plagued the Suns for most of their 42 previous seasons.

I understand Amar'e shying away from defense and rebounding when he was a victim of it. I understand Frye's frustration with it as well. Just as I did every Suns Power Forward when they had to cover for a 212 lb. Center for all those Alvan Adams years. That is the way it was.

That's why the Suns have never been considered a strong challenger for post-season supremacy. Yes, whenever you guys lament over it, I can't help but beat the dead horse. Because I cling to the hope that it may one day change.

 

[Covert Rain]

Was this information in a press release? Frye was an excellent shooter in college and showed very good range. He'd already failed in both New York and in Portland when they tried to turn him into a traditional inside guy. Despite the fact that he had not previously been used from distance it stands to reason the team might have pursued him, at least in part, for that very reason.

Yes, they knew Frye could shoot but not the 3. When I listened to the signing on KTAR they talked about needing his ability to take the open shot from the top of the key (something Shaq coudn't do). They also said they needed another big body in the roster to fill the lane. Not once did they ever mention his 3 point shooting ability. Nobody knew he could hit the 3. He took only 70 total prior to coming to the Suns and made only 20 his entire career. His best year he shot 33%.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

He isn't an average defender. He is always out of position and he rarely boxes out and goes for the rebound only to be beat by the man behind him. His IQ level on defense is extremely low as well, it shows on the court. When your 6 foot 10 , you shouldn't be prancing around like a pony and afraid to shoot. He should be held accountable for everything because we aren't the ones getting millions to just shoot 3 pointers. I'll clown on Frye until he leaves, dude simply sucks and it frustrates me when he is putting up bricks and then on a run, with the momentum swinging our way, he clanks a wide open 3 pointer. This has happened numerous times in 2 seasons. Can he shoot 3's? Definitely. Does he do enough on the court to offset a bad shooting night? Definitely not. He is a liability. I rather play a defender than have Frye there coming off the bench.

I think Rolo will be a good defender in the future. He has all the makings of a terrific center. That's about it. All the other big men on the Suns are pretty bad defenders and rebounders. Warrick is probably the next best thing. I wish we never even re-signed Frye. The Suns can do without his offense and also his defense.

This. Thats a great point, when he has a poor shooting night (which is often) he is 100% useless. I would have rather give Lou 35 mill...

 

[mojorizen7]

This. Thats a great point, when he has a poor shooting night (which is often) he is 100% useless. I would have rather give Lou 35 mill...

As is the case with jump shooting teams in general.....when the shots aren't falling,there's NOTHING else to fall back on.

Its extremely frustrating as a SUNS fan.

It would be an amazing thing if....one day,the SUNS decided to construct a basketball team built to get stops,control the glass and work the offense inside/out....and of course get lucky and GO HARD after a legit bigman....make their fate.

Those early mid-90's Houston teams were awesome. Olajuwon in the middle,a big dirt-working forward in Thorpe,an offensively and defensively effective big forward in Horry, and a cast of shooters that weren't garbage on the defensive end(Kenny Smith,Cassell,Vernon Maxwell,Drexler).....and of course Mario ****ing Ellie.

Back to present day reality.....what are the SUNS doing?

 

[Catlover]

As is the case with jump shooting teams in general.....when the shots aren't falling,there's NOTHING else to fall back on.

Its extremely frustrating as a SUNS fan.

It would be an amazing thing if....one day,the SUNS decided to construct a basketball team built to get stops,control the glass and work the offense inside/out....and of course get lucky and GO HARD after a legit bigman....make their fate.

Those early mid-90's Houston teams were awesome. Olajuwon in the middle,a big dirt-working forward in Thorpe,an offensively and defensively effective big forward in Horry, and a cast of shooters that weren't garbage on the defensive end(Kenny Smith,Cassell,Vernon Maxwell,Drexler).....and of course Mario ****ing Ellie.

Back to present day reality.....what are the SUNS doing?

We've got Hedo!!! And if we don't reduce Nash's minutes soon we might need Turk to backup Dragic at the point in addition to filling in magnificently as our starting power forward. What could possibly go wrong with this plan.

 

[Trifecta]

As is the case with jump shooting teams in general.....when the shots aren't falling,there's NOTHING else to fall back on.

Its extremely frustrating as a SUNS fan.

It would be an amazing thing if....one day,the SUNS decided to construct a basketball team built to get stops,control the glass and work the offense inside/out....and of course get lucky and GO HARD after a legit bigman....make their fate.

Those early mid-90's Houston teams were awesome. Olajuwon in the middle,a big dirt-working forward in Thorpe,an offensively and defensively effective big forward in Horry, and a cast of shooters that weren't garbage on the defensive end(Kenny Smith,Cassell,Vernon Maxwell,Drexler).....and of course Mario ****ing Ellie.

Back to present day reality.....what are the SUNS doing?

Dude, it should be clear to you by now that the Suns aren't ever going to be what you want them to be. And while I agree with your position and share your frustration to an extent, do you have to keep going on and on about it in every single one of your posts, no matter what the original topic? While I don't have many posts on this board I have been reading it on and off for about 10 years now, and you (and others) constantly repeating yourself about the Suns having no/weak inside game etc really has gotten old. We all get it, okay? But it's not us the fans that you have convince.

 

[Catlover]

Dude, it should be clear to you by now that the Suns aren't ever going to be what you want them to be. And while I agree with your position and share your frustration to an extent, do you have to keep going on and on about it in every single one of your posts, no matter what the original topic? While I don't have many posts on this board I have been reading it on and off for about 10 years now, and you (and others) constantly repeating yourself about the Suns having no/weak inside game etc really has gotten old. We all get it, okay? But it's not us the fans that you have convince.

It's kind of hard to avoid this conversation this season in particular. While I don't buy the idea that we don't have good big men because we don't want them there's really no arguing that we've historically been soft in the middle. That may work well with chocolate but it's no way to design an NBA roster.

 

[Trifecta]

It's kind of hard to avoid this conversation this season in particular. While I don't buy the idea that we don't have good big men because we don't want them there's really no arguing that we've historically been soft in the middle. That may work well with chocolate but it's no way to design an NBA roster.

I'm not defending the Suns, this season or historically, nor am I saying the conversation shouldn't be had. My point is that Mojo and others continuing to repeat themselves over and over and over again, in pretty much every single post they make, is getting a bit old. Is there anyone here who doesn't know the Suns have always been soft such that they needed to be reminded of it every single day?

 

[mojorizen7]

Dude, it should be clear to you by now that the Suns aren't ever going to be what you want them to be. And while I agree with your position and share your frustration to an extent, do you have to keep going on and on about it in every single one of your posts, no matter what the original topic? While I don't have many posts on this board I have been reading it on and off for about 10 years now, and you (and others) constantly repeating yourself about the Suns having no/weak inside game etc really has gotten old. We all get it, okay? But it's not us the fans that you have convince.

Same goes for these replies bro. Its a message board full of opinions. Some opinions will sway,while others will not.

I would suggest the ignore feature. Have a nice day.

 

[Trifecta]

Same goes for these replies bro. Its a message board full of opinions. Some opinions will sway,while others will not.

I would suggest the ignore feature. Have a nice day.

I always thought the ignore feature was for blocking spammers or whatnot. Other than your repetitiveness you actually strike me as a smart guy and a good poster so it would be a shame to block you, but maybe for the sake of my own sanity I should

 

[Catlover]

I always thought the ignore feature was for blocking spammers or whatnot. Other than your repetitiveness you actually strike me as a smart guy and a good poster so it would be a shame to block you, but maybe for the sake of my own sanity I should

Sanity is overrated. Or maybe that's cherry cola that's overrated, I forget.

 

[Bert]

Dude, it should be clear to you by now that the Suns aren't ever going to be what you want them to be. And while I agree with your position and share your frustration to an extent, do you have to keep going on and on about it in every single one of your posts, no matter what the original topic? While I don't have many posts on this board I have been reading it on and off for about 10 years now, and you (and others) constantly repeating yourself about the Suns having no/weak inside game etc really has gotten old. We all get it, okay? But it's not us the fans that you have convince.

Lol bro how do you think people on this site get to 20 thousand posts....

 

[Covert Rain]

Sanity is overrated. Or maybe that's cherry cola that's overrated, I forget.

That.

 

[Chaplin]

This. Thats a great point, when he has a poor shooting night (which is often) he is 100% useless. I would have rather give Lou 35 mill...

35 million to Lou Amundson. What a laugh!

 

[NashDishesDimes]

35 million to Lou Amundson. What a laugh!

Dont be stupid, i didnt say i want to give Lou 35 million. But id RATHER pay Lou 35 million over Frye idiot.

 

[Chaplin]

Dont be stupid, i didnt say i want to give Lou 35 million. But id RATHER pay Lou 35 million over Frye idiot.

Wow, nice. If I had 35 million, I wouldn't touch Frye OR Lou.

But thanks for the attack.

 

[joshstmarie]

Dude, it should be clear to you by now that the Suns aren't ever going to be what you want them to be. And while I agree with your position and share your frustration to an extent, do you have to keep going on and on about it in every single one of your posts, no matter what the original topic? While I don't have many posts on this board I have been reading it on and off for about 10 years now, and you (and others) constantly repeating yourself about the Suns having no/weak inside game etc really has gotten old. We all get it, okay? But it's not us the fans that you have convince.

aaaaaagreed.

 

[joshstmarie]

Dont be stupid, i didnt say i want to give Lou 35 million. But id RATHER pay Lou 35 million over Frye idiot.

Contradiction much?