Cheap shot on Calais

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I wouldn't call it the dirtiest play ever, as Thomas made contact low before Clady made contact high. But CC and Clady were definitely preparing to engage and Thomas came in low from the side. Clady did not make any attempt to peel back when Thomas engaged, as I saw some Broncos fans claiming. Dirty play and obvious penalty, but calling it the dirtiest ever is just frustration of the resulting injury.
 

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I wouldn't call it the dirtiest play ever, as Thomas made contact low before Clady made contact high. But CC and Clady were definitely preparing to engage and Thomas came in low from the side. Clady did not make any attempt to peel back when Thomas engaged, as I saw some Broncos fans claiming. Dirty play and obvious penalty, but calling it the dirtiest ever is just frustration of the resulting injury.

I read about it being called a Lure Block, which is also illegal and very dirty. A lure block is where one offensive lineman sets up to pass protect a defender, thus luring the defender in while another player engages low. I had never heard of that before, but its all semantics. It was dirty, cheap and will probably only end in a fine. Seems unfair to be able to play in a manner that violates the rules with reckless abandon for another players safety and only get a fine that is the financial equivalent to many of us as a speeding ticket.
 

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yea, that's a cheap as it gets.

If you saw it after the play even Clady was mad at Thomas. Maybe because it wiped out a TD catch but I suspect also because he realized what a total cheap shot it was.
 

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Great camera work. This vid is going to be training material for refs.
 

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Yep and that 15 yard penalty is totally meaningless, especially if he's out for any time. That is the crap I would crack down on as commish. You intentionally hurt someone and you are done for a long while.

The immediate penalty should be an ejection and half-the-distance-to-the-goal regardless of field position.
 
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FWIW on Around the Horn today the panel was unanimous 4 outof 4 it was a flat out DIRTY HIT.

If anyone is watching MNF and saw the halftime it looked like boomer and the guys were discussing it I'm interested to know what they had to say about it, I couldn't hear audio I was in a restaurant.
 

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Now that Shaughnessy is out that's 2 guys who were injured on illegal plays. They didn't call the one on Shaughnessy. On the 2nd TD to Julius Thomas, Shaughnessy was rushing from the right side, someone cut him and when Shaughnessy jumped over the cut, the guy basically reached up and grabbed his foot or ankle causing him to go down. It appears that's the play he got hurt on.

That was not dirty the guy was just trying to give Manning time, but it was pretty obvious live on TV I was amazed the refs missed it.
 

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yea, that's a cheap as it gets.
Looking at this play, it isn't a chop block of any kind because the OT never engages CC. CC is on his way down when he was touched. Usually a chop block is the low chop while the player is already engaged with the lineman. No, this was a take out play by Julius Thomas plain and simple.
 

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The talking heads at ESPN who say that was not intentional and not a "dirty" play are just being apologists for the NFL.

I agree that it wasn't a "dirty" play, it was a "low down filthy intent to get someone out of the game play". The more I see it the madder I get.

I starts at the head coach IMO. He and his staff coach their players that way.
 

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I think we're all in agreement that it was a cheap shot on Calais. It sucks because he is one hell of a football player. The Cardinals are so fortunate to have a player & person of his caliber. I just listened to his his take on it & was so impressed with his focus to move on & heal up so he can get back & help this team. He is a CLASS ACT! By far my favorite Cardinal & right up there as one of my all-time favorites too. He doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
 

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I can't remember if it was Eric Swan or Simeon Rice or both that the Eagles ended for with awhile with a chop block. I do remember the one called against Edge in the SB! I thought it was clean but it stopped all running by whiz(that wasn't hard to do) Cards was held to 10 rushes in the SB! and treated to a 99 yard int TD as time expired!

Running the ball was the difference from blow losses and playoff wins!

Baldinger broke Swan on purpose, but I still remember a chopp block on him.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...-baldinger-intentionally-broke-someones-ankle

A different story about the Swann chop block.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19940814&slug=1925248

Swann was having a brilliant season a year ago until he suffered a knee injury in the ninth game on a controversial chop block by Philadelphia Eagles offensive tackle Antone Davis. He underwent surgery and missed the rest of the season.
He said the knee is fine, and he had no problem with mobility at the minicamp. His biggest problem was staying out of fights with rookie offensive linemen.
"Another rookie tangled with me," Swann said. "I don't know what it is with these guys - beat Eric Swann and you make the team."
He is expected to flourish in first-year coach Buddy Ryan's attacking style of defense, and Ryan already has compared him to All-Pro end Reggie White.
Swann, who is 6-foot-5 and weighs 298, also should benefit from the addition of Pro Bowl end Clyde Simmons, a free-agent acquisition who should take some of the pass-rushing pressure off him.
His teammates are expecting a big year from Swann, who already has impressed them with his plan to help the homeless.
"That says a lot about him," cornerback Aeneas Williams said. "No one has to do anything, but it's a blessing when an athlete like him wants to help somebody. It shows how much he cares."
 
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I can't remember if it was Eric Swan or Simeon Rice or both that the Eagles ended for with awhile with a chop block. I do remember the one called against Edge in the SB! I thought it was clean but it stopped all running by whiz(that wasn't hard to do) Cards was held to 10 rushes in the SB! and treated to a 99 yard int TD as time expired!

Running the ball was the difference from blow losses and playoff wins!

It was Swann
 

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I think we're all in agreement that it was a cheap shot on Calais. It sucks because he is one hell of a football player. The Cardinals are so fortunate to have a player & person of his caliber. I just listened to his his take on it & was so impressed with his focus to move on & heal up so he can get back & help this team. He is a CLASS ACT! By far my favorite Cardinal & right up there as one of my all-time favorites too. He doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
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Well said.
 

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11664929/julius-thomas-denver-broncos-fined-8268-chop-block
Arians Calls Thomas' Chop Block 'Premeditated'

ESPN Cardinals reporter Josh Weinfuss discusses Broncos TE Julius Thomas' chop block on Cardinals DE Calais Campbell, which Arizona coach Bruce Arians believes was premeditated. According to Cardinals GM Steve Keim, Campbell suffered a Grade 2 MCL sprain


Denver Broncos tight end Julius Thomas has been fined $8,268 for his chop-block on Arizona Cardinals defensive end Calais Campbell last Sunday, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
On the play, Campbell was rushing off the right edge, and Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady stood in a pass-block stance but had yet to make contact with Campbell. At the snap, Thomas, who was lined up next to Clady, dived into Campbell's knees for the chop, which caused the injury and forced Campbell to miss most of the second half.
 
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