Check out these WONDERLIC SCORES

[Skkorpion]

WRs

Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh - 18
Roy Williams, Texas - 17
Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma State - 21
Reggie Williams, Washington - 17
Lee Evans, Wisconsin - 27
Michael Clayton, LSU - 19
Michael Jenkins, Ohio State - 20
Devery Henderson, LSU - 17
Keary Colbert, Southern Cal - 21
Ernest Wilford, Virginia Tech - 19
Bernard Berrian, Fresno State - 20

QBs

Eli Manning, Mississippi - 39
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (OH) - 25
Philip Rivers, North Carolina State - 30
J.P. Losman, Tulane - 31
Cody Pickett, Washington - 19
Matt Schaub, Virginia - 30
John Navarre, Michigan - 24
Josh Harris, Bowling Green - 25
Casey Clausen, Tennessee - 20
Jeff Smoker, Michigan State - 23
Jason Fife, Oregon - 26
Matt Mauck, LSU - 30
Eli Roberson, Kansas State - 11
B.J. Symons, Texas Tech - 22
Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky - 28
Bradlee Van Pelt, Colorado State - 25
Rod Rutherford, Pittsburgh - 17

TEs

Ben Watson, Georgia - 41
Kellen Winslow, Miami - 12
Ben Troupe, Florida - not listed
Ben Utecht, Minnesota - 22
Ben Hartsock, Ohio State - 32
Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9
Jeff Dugan, Maryland - 24
Sean Ryan, Boston College - 35
Chris Cooley, Utah State - 32
Tim Euhus, Oregon State - 34

RBs

Steven Jackson, Oregon State - 28
Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech - 15
Chris Perry, Michigan - 20
Greg Jones, Florida State - 25
Tatum Bell, Oklahoma State - 18
Julius Jones, Notre Dame - 16
Michael Turner, Northern Illinois - 35
Maurice Clarett, Ohio State - 20
Fred Russell, Iowa - 9
Mewelde Moore, Tulane - 19
Cedric Cobbs, Arkansas - 14
Jarrett Payton, Miami (FL) - 12

Guards

Vernon Carey, Miami (FL) - 18
Chris Snee, Boston College - 19
Steve Peterman, LSU - 20
Justin Smiley, Alabama - 21
Sean Locklear, North Carolina State - 19
Adrien Clarke, Ohio State - 24
Shannon Snell, Florida - 28
Alan Reuber, Texas AM (T) - 24
Jacob Bell, Miami (OH) - 22
Anthonly Herrera, Tennessee - 23
Antonio Hall, Kentucky - 20

Tackles

Robert Gallery, Iowa - 23
Shawns Andrews, Arkansas - 20
Kelly Butler, Purdue - 29
Nat Dorsey, Georgia Tech - 35
Jacob Rogers, Southern Cal - 29
Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7
Tony Pape, Michigan - 23
Mark Wilson, California - 30
Kirk Chambers, Stanford - 29
Max Starks, Florida (OG) - 35
Travelle Wharton, South Carolina - 12
Sean Bubin, Illinois - 24
Shane Olivea, Ohio State - 18
Brian Rimpf, East Carolina - 35
Adrian Jones, Kansas - 17
Stacey Andrews, Mississippi - 15

LBs

D.J. Williams Miami (FL) - 21
Karlso Dansby, Auburn - 15
Daryl Smith, Georgia Tech - 13
Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma - 39
Dontarrious Thomas, Auburn - 24
Michael Boulware, Florida State - 24
Kendyll Pope, Florida State - 18
Keyaron Fox, Georgia Tech - 16
Demorrio Williams, Nebraska - 12
Courtney Watson, Notre Dame - 24
Bryan Hickman, Kansas State - 16
Jonathan Vilma, Miami (FL) - 23
Niko Koutouvides, Purdue - 28
Rod Davis, Southern Miss - 18

CBs

DeAngelo Hall, Virginia Tech - 23
Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9
Dunta Robinson, South Carolina - 13
Will Poole, Southern Cal - 14
Ahmad Carroll, Arkansas - 17
Derrick Strait, Oklahoma - 15
Ricardo Colclough, Tusculum - 11
Joey Thomas, Montana State - 19
Nathan Vasher, Texas - 13
Keiwan Ratliff, Florida - 18
Jeremy LeSueur, Michigan - 16
Keith Smith, McNeese State - 17
Vontez Duff, Notre Dame - 16

FS

Sean Taylor, Miami (FL) - 10
Matt Ware, UCLA - 22
Stuart Schweigert, Purdue - 28
Jason Shivers, Arizona State - 14
Sean Jones, Georgia - 18
Brandon Everage, Oklahoma - 15
Will Allen, Ohio State - 13

DEs

Will Smith, Ohio State - 23
Kenechi Udeze, Southern Cal - 18
Marquise Hill, LSU - 13
Antwan Odom, Alabama - 10
Darrion Scott, Ohio State - 12
Jason Babin, Western Michigan - 22
Isaac Hilton, Hampton - 23
Uyi Osunde, Connecticut - 21
Travis Laboy, Hawaii - 29
Shaun Phillips, Purdue - 17
Bo Schobel, TCU - 27
Andrew Shull, Kansas State - 21
Dave Ball, UCLA - 25
Bobby McCray, Florida - 14
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7

DTs

Tommie Harris, Oklahoma - 11
Vince Wilfork, Miami (FL) - 10
Marcus Tubbs, Texas - 21
Randy Starks, Maryland - 20
Darnell Dockett, Florida State - 17
Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8
Dwan Edwards, Oregon State - 29
Chad Lavalais, LSU - 10
Igor Olshansky, Oregon - 29
Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8
Matthias Askew, Michigan State - 10
Tank Johnson, Washington - 16
Darrell Campbell, Notre Dame - 21
Junior Siavii, Oregon - 15
Tim Anderson, Ohio State - 25

 

[arthurracoon]

Did Mike Williams take it?

A real ? I have: What does the wonderlic have to do with football knowledge? Are the ?'s on patterns relavent to football?

 

[Skkorpion]

RB Julius Jones (score 16) flunked out of Notre Dame, went to ASU for a year to get his grades up then went back to Notre Dame.

My question is this: What did Notre Dame do to keep this guy elligible for 2 years?

Observation - Notice the joke scores of every Miami player? The biggest joke is calling Miami a University.

 

[Red Dawn]

Did Mike Williams take it?

A real ? I have: What does the wonderlic have to do with football knowledge? Are the ?'s on patterns relavent to football?

Here's one, kinda just looks like a typical IQ test:

Sample Wonderlic

 

[cardsunsfan]

What was Boldin's?

 

[California Card]

Taylor and Wilfork continuing Miami's standard of excellence with a pair of perfect 10's!

Nice job by Manning though, bustin' out with a 39. 2nd highes as far as I could tell.

 

[vikesfan]

Did Mike Williams take it?

A real ? I have: What does the wonderlic have to do with football knowledge? Are the ?'s on patterns relavent to football?

The wonderlic test is indicative of nothing.
Even guys who play the most complex position in pro sports QB did not score well on it. Simms Culpepper Marino al scored low.

This is just a feel good thing for nerds. It doesn't preditc success as a football player or in life. Marino Simms have both succeeded on the field as well as off.

Don't pay ANY attention to this it is meaningless!

 

[Assface]

Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9
Fred Russell, Iowa - 9
Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7
Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7
Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8
Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8

Wow, a few of these guys are dumb as mildew. I notice none of the recievers had low scores, and ironically I think the OL was the only other position with now low scores.

 

[cardsunsfan]

The wonderlic test is indicative of nothing.
Even guys who play the most complex position in pro sports QB did not score well on it. Simms Culpepper Marino al scored low.

This is just a feel good thing for nerds. It doesn't preditc success as a football player or in life. Marino Simms have both succeeded on the field as well as off.

Don't pay ANY attention to this it is meaningless!

Nerds huh? I take it you didn't do well in school? They use the Wonderlic for many vocational jobs. If you don't score well enough you don't get the job.

 

[schel]

What was Boldin's?

31

 

[vikesfan]

Nerds huh? I take it you didn't do well in school? They use the Wonderlic for many vocational jobs. If you don't score well enough you don't get the job.

Talk about jumping to conclusions. I actually have a Masters' Degree. Some of the dumbest people I met were in University. When I hire people I don't give them tests. It's not indicative of success. My best worker didn't finish high school he is also the most creative thinker I have working for me.

 

[ThunderCard]

I am starting to get on the Teddy Lehman bandwagon. I know LB is not a position of need but he looks like he might be NFL material

 

[cardsunsfan]

31

That seems about right... I guess I might have been wrong about Fitz though... I thought he was considered really intelligent so I thought if he were to take over Boldins old spot he would be able to catch on really quick and be able to do many of the things Boldin did which I think could be attributed to his smarts. I was hoping Boldin and Fitz would be on the same wave length with both of them being quick learners...

I know the wonderlic doesn't account for everything and there has been a lot of good players who had poor wonderlic scores but I think this might have been me in the Mike Williams boat. The one thing I thought would be better about Fitz is intelligence and now I'm not so sure about that....

 

[vikesfan]

That seems about right... I guess I might have been wrong about Fitz though... I thought he was considered really intelligent so I thought if he were to take over Boldins old spot he would be able to catch on really quick and be able to do many of the things Boldin did which I think could be attributed to his smarts. I was hoping Boldin and Fitz would be on the same wave length with both of them being quick learners...

I know the wonderlic doesn't account for everything and there has been a lot of good players who had poor wonderlic scores but I think this might have been me in the Mike Williams boat. The one thing I thought would be better about Fitz is intelligence and now I'm not so sure about that....

WONDERLIC DOESN'T MATTER.

 

[vikesfan]

I am starting to get on the Teddy Lehman bandwagon. I know LB is not a position of need but he looks like he might be NFL material

WONDERLIC DOESN'T MATTER

 

[cardsunsfan]

Talk about jumping to conclusions. I actually have a Masters' Degree. Some of the dumbest people I met were in University. When I hire people I don't give them tests. It's not indicative of success. My best worker didn't finish high school he is also the most creative thinker I have working for me.

Well I'm happy you feel prior education doesn't matter and that the Wonderlic doesn't matter. I think most of the time it does and that's why the working world in certain areas go by it. Do you think these large corporations just give out these tests for fun?

There has also been studies that show that in particular jobs people without college degrees fail much more often. By the way what is your masters degree in?

 

[lrk27]

RB Julius Jones (score 16) flunked out of Notre Dame, went to ASU for a year to get his grades up then went back to Notre Dame.

My question is this: What did Notre Dame do to keep this guy elligible for 2 years?

Observation - Notice the joke scores of every Miami player? The biggest joke is calling Miami a University.

Believe it or not, he has Thomas Jones to thank for that. After ND ruled him ineligible, Thomas took him in and made him take care of the house and his car and go to school. Thomas forced him to grow up out here. I still see him around from time to time. Thomas Jones for the most part had his head on straight, just started hanging out with the wrong guys in the locker room. Julius is much different now than when he got to South Bend. He'll wind up being better than Thomas because he learned from big brother's mistakes.

 

[ThunderCard]

WONDERLIC DOESN'T MATTER

You are almost completly right. Even thought I am starting to get on the Teddy Lehman bandwagon not because of scores, but because of play. I still find this test usefull for one purpose.

It points out the slow ballplayers
Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9
Fred Russell, Iowa - 9
Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7
Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7
Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8
Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8

It doesn't really tell me someone is smart per say, but it goes to show which ones are trailing the pack as far as a brain. Also you have to take into the account that most that score low on the wonderlic also more than not, these players did not do so good in school.

 

[vikesfan]

You are almost completly right. Even thought I am starting to get on the Teddy Lehman bandwagon not because of scores, but because of play. I still find this test usefull for one purpose.

It points out the slow ballplayers
Jason Peters, Arkansas - 9
Fred Russell, Iowa - 9
Carlos Joseph, Miami (FL) - 7
Chris Gamble, Ohio State - 9
Gabe Nyenhuis, Colorado - 7
Donnell Washington, Clemson - 8
Isaac Sopoaga, Hawaii - 8

It doesn't really tell me someone is smart per say, but it goes to show which ones are trailing the pack as far as a brain. Also you have to take into the account that most that score low on the wonderlic also more than not, these players did not do so good in school.

It is not a test of intelligence.
Marino, Simms are successful announcers. Fred Russell is a well spoken semi-regular guest on espn radio.
Maybe the lower the Wonderlic the more successful you woll be working in a good job after you finish playing football.

 

[cardsunsfan]

It is not a test of intelligence.
Marino, Simms are successful announcers. Fred Russell is a well spoken semi-regular guest on espn radio.
Maybe the lower the Wonderlic the more successful you woll be working in a good job after you finish playing football.

yeah that must be it :roll: What was your major again? I take it, it wasn't something in business (and yes I'm half joking here but some of your points I do think our kind of absurd)

 

[ThunderCard]

Either way you can not completly throw the wonderlic scores out. They do count for something. To get under a 10 on that test you need to be on the little yellow bus. To get a 6 or 7 you would probably be the driver.

 

[vikesfan]

Either way you can not completly throw the wonderlic scores out. They do count for something. To get under a 10 on that test you need to be on the little yellow bus. To get a 6 or 7 you would probably be the driver.

Yes you can throw it out. It is as meaningful to find out of the draftee wears boxers or shorts. It has NO meaning. It is is like giving a guy a crossword puzzle to do or draw a picture - it doesn't matter.

Phil Simms got a 9!!!
Marino a 16!!!

You can wrap it up in a tiny ball. Pour gasoline on it and burn it and then throw it out.

My degrees were in psychology. But I have a business now.

 

[BACH]

It is not a test of intelligence.
Marino, Simms are successful announcers. Fred Russell is a well spoken semi-regular guest on espn radio.
Maybe the lower the Wonderlic the more successful you woll be working in a good job after you finish playing football.

How can it not be a test of intelligence???

I know intelligence is many things, but it's obvious that the Wonderlic is a test of logic intelligence (mathmatical intelligence). There are many aspects of judging a players ability - true, but you CANNOT discard the Wonderlick as not important when judging a player.

Not an expert like you, but the logic intelligence should be a good indicator of how fast a player can pick up the playbook and system. Work ethic and personallity could off-set a low Wonderlick score, but ceteris paribus the Wonderlick plays a role in evaluating a player's ability.

 

[Savage58]

Either way you can not completly throw the wonderlic scores out. They do count for something. To get under a 10 on that test you need to be on the little yellow bus. To get a 6 or 7 you would probably be the driver.

I'd say the one thing the teams get out of it, are if certain players take the test seriously or not. Other than that, it ain't like football is rocket science, most of the time the QB or MLB is yellin at the lineman/WR of where to lineup anyway, I know I was.

 

[vikesfan]

I'd say the one thing the teams get out of it, are if certain players take the test seriously or not. Other than that, it ain't like football is rocket science, most of the time the QB or MLB is yellin at the lineman/WR of where to lineup anyway, I know I was.

Wonderlic doesn't measure how a player copes with a playbook anymore then making him do a crossword puzzle.

There is something called street smarts for example or genis who are only good in their own area or a few areas. A lot of pro football players have street smarts. They have football smarts. They know what works and doesn't. The cyu cycle is the same for most people.

Marino was a 16 wonderlic HE PICKED UP NFL PLAYBOOKS RIGHY AWAY he was good from year one.

The wonderlic is not gonna tell you about how players will do with playbooks... look at how did they in college.