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[Yuma]

Look at item 5A! Need I say more!!

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[George O'Brien]

Darko Milicic was hyped as being an impact player in a few years. Unfortunately, he was drafted by a playoff team with strong inside players so he never gets to play while their SF (Prince) is scoring only 10.8 ppg (which is third on the team). Anthony might have made enough impact to get the Pistons into the finals.

The decision to draft Darko was made before Brown was signed as coach. Brown hates rookies, so maybe Anthony would have ridden the bench, but I doubt it.

I'd love to have a team with Darko and Zarko.

 

[Joe Mama]

5. Pistons fire Rick Carlisle
Carlisle was signed -- he still had a year remaining on his three-year contract -- and he had turned around an ailing franchise, leading Detroit to back-to-back 50-win seasons while being named coach of the year.


So what's the deal? It's guesswork. All the front office could come up with was that he was too rigid (remember when winning coaches were admired for being rigid?). Some assumed it came down to Larry Brown being available.


All we can do is echo the sentiments of Dickie V: "The job he did warranted a multi-year contract extension, not a dismissal."


And check out the Central Division standings -- with Rick Carlisle's new team, Indiana, on top of the heap and four games ahead of his former charges.

The problem I have with this is that these people have no idea what was going on behind the scenes with Carlisle. Reportedly he was a complete jerk to the players and others in the organization. And Indiana should be four games ahead of Detroit. They should be easily the best team in the Eastern conference.

Joe Mama

 

[Errntknght]

I don't know Joe... Detroit's reasons for discarding Carlisle sounded pretty lame. Sure, we're all just guessing but my guess is that they mainly wanted Larry Brown. That's their prerogative and he may work out well for them but you can't deny that Carlisle has had a positive effect on the Pacers - they're now leading the league in fewest points allowed, just like the Pistons did under Carlisle. And Ron Artest is a new man as far as his behavior is concerned... just shows what appreciation by the coach can do. Last summer when people were speculating about Ron heading for trouble with Rick in charge, I was thinking it looked more like a match made in heaven.

 

[FrustratedSON]

Originally posted by Joe Mama

The problem I have with this is that these people have no idea what was going on behind the scenes with Carlisle. Reportedly he was a complete jerk to the players and others in the organization.
Joe Mama [/B]

How do you know he was a total jerk? How do YOU know what was really going on behind the scenes to say he was a total jerk.

Your reports had him a total jerk, others didn't... So who knows?


His firing seemed to be the bad side of basketball business and the harsh politics that go on behind closed doors.

IMO it wasn't good for the game, the confidence that fans, players, coaches hold for thier respective organisations is shaken when moves of retrenchment rather then promotion and reward are served up.

He deserved better then what he got. Ugly side of basketball business is all I saw

 

[Joe Mama]

Originally posted by FrustratedSON
How do you know he was a total jerk? How do YOU know what was really going on behind the scenes to say he was a total jerk.

Your reports had him a total jerk, others didn't... So who knows?

I don't know. That's the point. Obviously there was some reason they didn't want him as their head coach anymore. Perhaps it was that they wanted Larry Brown, but it's a little hard to believe that was all there was to it I mean the Pistons under Carlisle did very well.

It wasn't just a few reports either. It was virtually every media member that speculated that he was fired at least in part because the players didn't like him, the management didn't really like him, and he was a jerk around the facilities.

He deserved better then what he got. Ugly side of basketball business is all I saw

Again, how do you really know he deserved better than what he got? He obviously didn't do enough or pissed off the wrong people in the Pistons organization. The Pistons felt they could keep winning without him, and they wanted to get rid of him for one reason or another.

Joe Mama

 

[elindholm]

Who was that NBA player (Heat?) who lost his option year because he didn't claim it by the deadline? It seems like he should have made the Top Ten Mistakes list.

 

[FrustratedSON]

Originally posted by Joe Mama


Again, how do you really know he deserved better than what he got? He obviously didn't do enough or pissed off the wrong people in the Pistons organization. The Pistons felt they could keep winning without him, and they wanted to get rid of him for one reason or another.

Joe Mama

My point was that is was a showing of the cruel business politics that go on. I'm sorry but even I can see he didn't get what he deserved. But hey, it's a business isn't it?

I suppose you judge on face value. See what you see in interviews. During the game. What you see i'd take over what i read. I thought he was a very good very coach.

 

[FrustratedSON]

Originally posted by elindholm
Who was that NBA player (Heat?) who lost his option year because he didn't claim it by the deadline? It seems like he should have made the Top Ten OTEMistakes list. [/QU]

Was it Anthony Carter... who's since been dumped by the spurs.

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm surprised that anyone is concerned about the Pistons getting rid of a reasonably successful coaches in exchange for a legend. Larry Brown generally gets an improvement with every team he coaches for two or three years. I am guessing the Pistons saw their chance to get Larry and took it.

Considering all the grief the Suns get with their handling of coaches, the Pistons at least did the deed early enough that Carlisle could get another job.