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HomerPimpson
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The next few weeks on this forum gonna be off the chain.
Yes, I know no one actually says that, I'm old.
Yes, I know no one actually says that, I'm old.
Feels kinda weird so many want our coach and QB to fail. Thought this was a fan board?
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Points don't matter; WINS matter. There are TONS of teams that turned it around in the WIN column and had playoff success/won Super Bowls quickly.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
A1 quality troll attempt!
jmt
ASFN Lifer
Me too.
Buncha guys here should go buy RAMS gear and just admit who they are. Come out of the closet, so to speak.
No, we've been hoping KK & KM would succeed. We're just frustrated because they've been failing.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Right. You're the only twue fan.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Ah thanks for the correction.
I don’t consider massive improvement to be failing. They aren’t perfect yet, but they are clearly improving.
Wins are somewhat random in the NFL. The best way to ensure consistent and stable success is to maximize point advantage over a large sample. As we have seen, a few missed field goals can turn an 8 win “disappointment” into an 11-win “amazing turnaround”.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
So the true measure of success in the NFL isn't winning, but the statistics of points turnaround? Okaaay.
We want them to prove us wrong. Play better. Make smart choices. Didn’t realize a fan board should be an echo chamber of only positive thoughts...
The question is how to measure progress. For the same reason that so many teams go “worst to first” or “first to out of the playoffs” is explained much more strongly by how many blow-outs they can win (and avoiding blow-out losses) compared to winning close games (which usually comes down to kicking luck or a random play here or there).
If the Cardinals had a negative PD but 9 wins right now I would be less optimistic about their future than I am presently.
Again, I was the only (?) person trying to explain how awful our WR room was before the season started. I was told how good Fitz and Kirk were and well those folks were a mite too optimistic I would say.
Positivity should be the OVERWHELMING sentiment here, given the degree of improvement, the age of key players, and the growing expertise of the coach. And yet I find myself not fighting off a fair amount of negativity; it’s literally permeating through almost every thread!
phillycard
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This is facts. A losing year is a losing year. There's no guarantee that the needle continues to swing upward. Unless you're the damn Jets, that kind of rationale gets debunked very quickly in this league.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Progress is measured in winning games, making it to the playoffs, and winning the Super Bowl. NO ONE cares about margin of victory if you win the Lombardi. I don't care if we win every game 3-0, or get into the playoffs at 7-9, as long as we win the Super Bowl. We were CRUSHED in a game at the end of the season we made it to the Super Bowl and were called the worst division winner in playoff history. Did we care about any of that when we made it to the big game? Not one whit. We laughed about it. Sure would have been nice to actually win that game, but I'll always treasure that SB run.
Those games won or lost on one play, decided by a field goal or less, are EXACTLY how teams are measured. Every team has those games. The good and great teams win those; the bad and awful teams lose them; the uneven and average teams can go either way. This is why we're not in the first group.
Had a couple days to reflect.
Kliff isn’t what we thought he would be. His offense is not innovative, stale, predictable, he’s shown no ability to adjust, he runs a crappier version of similar offenses.
he’s not a leader, he doesn’t know jack about clock management or closing games out.
why keim never hired a vet OC is beyond me, but it’s clear someone needs to be brought in to supervise, and stop Kliff from shooting himself in the foot over and over.
Kliff isn’t what we thought he would be. His offense is not innovative, stale, predictable, he’s shown no ability to adjust, he runs a crappier version of similar offenses.
he’s not a leader, he doesn’t know jack about clock management or closing games out.
why keim never hired a vet OC is beyond me, but it’s clear someone needs to be brought in to supervise, and stop Kliff from shooting himself in the foot over and over.
...dbs
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