Chip Kelly has lost his mind.

[NJCardFan]

Chip said in a conference that he has no intentions on going after Mariota.

So he's going into the season with Bradford/Sanchez/Barkley? LOL, um, OK. And he's going to bring in Ryan Matthews? Not to mention he traded one of the best backs in the league, cut a decent offensive tackle, and has no wide receivers to speak of. If the Eagles win 5 games next season it will be nothing short of a miracle.

 

[DoTheDew]

yea right....then he went to the restroom and touched himself while looking at Mariota picture in a ducks uniform.

I think it's more likely that he did a lot of work trying to see if he could move into the top 10 and no one was budging so he has moved on.

 

[CardsFan88]

What's interesting he was talking about 'the cap' and 'this isn't baseball'.

Chip Kelly's re-signed Sanchez and traded for Sam Bradford...combined they take up a shade under 16.5 million this year against the cap.

Nick Foles? A shade over 1.3 million.

Sure are working the cap, and giving up picks too.

 

[splitsecond]

No. Rams get Philly's fourth this year. Eagles get a 5th this year. Rams get a 2nd-4th next year based on how much he plays. Technically they have the 'same picks' for this year, but of lower quality, but long term are out more picks, perhaps as high as an additional 2nd. But I believe that he needs to play 50 percent of the snaps for that to happen, so maybe not.

Oh here's a source, and it actually shows that if he is re-injured they have to give a 3rd to the Rams. LOL, they specifically have an injured clause in addition to playtime clause in the trade. That's injury prone, and the Rams know it and made sure to include such a clause in the trade.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...trading-sam-bradford-to-eagles-for-nick-foles


Not deluding myself. Bradford was outplayed by John Skelton for a full 15 game stretch over multiple seasons, Foles hasn't blown out his knee multiple times, and besides a couple of good games to start his career, Bradford has been very 'meh'. His arm isn't very strong. Not weak, but definitely not ideal.

He did pretty good to start this past year, I'll give him that. He can make quick decisions on short passes.

Foles broke his collarbone, is +29 TD to INT...despite his bad start to last season. 46 Td's in 28 games. Getting close to Bradford's number in 28 games. The size and strength you look for in a QB.

Bradford has 59 TD's in 48 games, and he's walking into a system, that right now is as bare of offensive talent as the early years in St. Louis. Maybe it gets a little better if they sign Mathews, who has talent, but also made of glass, and a clear downgrade from McCoy.

Meanwhile the Rams are bringing in a guy who threw 3 TD's against us his first game, and threw for 411 yards his 2nd game. Be careful what you wish for...

The ONLY thing that I can think is that Chip believes ole Beady Eyes is better suited for the system he really wants to run due to a quicker release and accuracy on short / intermediate routes, where as Foles is more of gunslinger in the mold of Carson Palmer. I reaaaaaally wish we could have Foles developing behind Carson, he would kill it in Arians system.

 

[juza76]

Chip said in a conference that he has no intentions on going after Mariota.

but why should he say his real intentions?

 

[CardsFan88]

The ONLY thing that I can think is that Chip believes ole Beady Eyes is better suited for the system he really wants to run due to a quicker release and accuracy on short / intermediate routes, where as Foles is more of gunslinger in the mold of Carson Palmer. I reaaaaaally wish we could have Foles developing behind Carson, he would kill it in Arians system.

I think that too, but isn't that sort of low hanging fruit for a QB?

Yeah, I would love to have Foles being groomed behind Palmer, and I'm an ASU alum.

 

[crisper57]

He is just auditioning for his own Coors Light commercial series.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'm pretty sure that the Eagles received a 3rd round pick in addition to Bradford in that trade.

Anyone who thinks there's a step-down in talent from Foles to Bradford--or in durability--is absolutely deluding themselves. Foles is a not-good quarterback, and I'm stoked at the opportunity to play against him twice next season.

From what I've heard on local (Seattle-Tacoma) radio shows, Kelly really wanted Bradford and had completely soured on Foles. Foles was not in Kelly's long term plan.

They (Eagles) believe he (Bradford) could put up monster numbers in their system. Sanchez proved last year that Kelly's system optimizes accuracy, and they feel that Bradford is a lot more accurate than Foles.

I think people have false attributed the system that Kelly ran at Oregon to the system he runs in the pros; Kelly has shown little indication that he wants a QB that is running every other down, and seems to be seeking a pocket passer with some mobility. Supposedly the Jets also really wanted Bradford as well.

 

[NJCardFan]

Supposedly the Jets also really wanted Bradford as well.

So they settle on Fitzpatrick?

 

[Krangodnzr]

So they settle on Fitzpatrick?

There isn't exactly a ton of great options out there.

Who else could they have brought in that was available?

 

[Ed Burmila]

Chip Kelly is such a genius that he will take this QB who is never healthy and make him healthy. Next he will put two of every animal on an ark and balance the national budget. He's a true genius.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Kelly is a genius. Those of average intelligence, stand back. Man at work!

So you are a standing back then ?

 

[NJCardFan]

There isn't exactly a ton of great options out there.

Who else could they have brought in that was available?

If they couldn't get Foles or Bradford they were better off with what they had or they simply can draft Mariota if he falls to 6. Hell, anything's better than Pick 6 Fitz.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Alot of this is the sports science behind getting the most of your players and keeping them healthy. Like the Suns in basketball, Kelly thinks he can keep players healther and get injured guys to return faster. Hence a top prospect who cant stay healthy is appealing to Kelly and his staff.

BTW this is my biggest concern with Bruce Arians. And Im in the minority here but by my estimation we have missed more starter games per man then we did in 4 years with Lott these past 2 seasons. I think Buddy does some out of the box stuff, and while not all injury can be prevented, the right system can lead to a overall healthier team and prevent some of the stuff we have dealt with last 2 years.

At this point its more just curious skepticism on my part. But if we fall apart due to injury AGAIN this season, im going to lead the Fire Buddy Morris band wagon next off season.

 

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I'm pretty sure that the Eagles received a 3rd round pick in addition to Bradford in that trade.

Anyone who thinks there's a step-down in talent from Foles to Bradford--or in durability--is absolutely deluding themselves. Foles is a not-good quarterback, and I'm stoked at the opportunity to play against him twice next season.

You are right. Kelly is done with both Foles and Sanchez. Orig. he wanted to go after Mariota. But he found out it would be too costly. This is plan b

 

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[82CardsGrad]

I'm pretty sure that the Eagles received a 3rd round pick in addition to Bradford in that trade.



Anyone who thinks there's a step-down in talent from Foles to Bradford--or in durability--is absolutely deluding themselves. Foles is a not-good quarterback, and I'm stoked at the opportunity to play against him twice next season.

The Rans got a 2nd rounder (in 2016) with Foles,. Foles shredded us last season. He's 14 & 4 in his career...
Not saying he's the next Tom Brady, however, Bradford has accomplished a fraction of what Foles has already done in the NFL. Kelly is high as a kite!

 

[Austin Zonie]

Healthy Bradford > Nick Foles, IMO.

 

[TJ]

Healthy Bradford > Nick Foles, IMO.

there is no such thing as a "Healthy Bradford" because he plays 9.8 games/season.

I think it's hilarious that some are quick to dismiss Foles. Dude played in a system that was a complete mismatch to his skill set, yet still put up productive numbers (37 TDs to 12 INTs) and a 14-4 record. Bradford, even when healthy, is a skittish pocket passer with average accuracy, and still carries a massive boat anchor of a contract.

In the end, I think this trade evens things out in the NFC West. The 49ers have regressed while the Rams improved. I think they're gonna go wideout in the draft in the first round.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Nick Foles is so vastly overrated it is laughable. The Rams offense will still sucks with Foles at the helm.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

there is no such thing as a "Healthy Bradford"...

"Healthy Bradford" is an oxymoron...like "jumbo shrimp", or "deafening silence".

 

[Shaggy]

"Healthy Bradford" is an oxymoron...like "jumbo shrimp", or "deafening silence".

Ha ha, so true!

 

[NJCardFan]

Nick Foles is so vastly overrated it is laughable. The Rams offense will still sucks with Foles at the helm.

In his career:

550 of 893, 61.6% completion, 6,353 yards, 46 TD's, 17 INT's. You wish we had a QB this "vastly overrated". Oh, the last 2 seasons as a starter he's 14-4.

 

[kerouac9]

Nick Foles is so vastly overrated it is laughable. The Rams offense will still sucks with Foles at the helm.

Wildly overrated. Can you win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles? The answer is a clear no. Outside of Kelly's system he completed 60.8% of his passes for 6.4 YPA with 6 TDs against 5 INTs. And that was with noted quarterback guru Andy Reid.

People act like Foles was productive in a Brian Schottenheimer offense. Last year, his stats were exactly the same as Mark Sanchez.