Chip Kelly has lost his mind.

[juza76]

Wildly overrated. Can you win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles? The answer is a clear no. Outside of Kelly's system he completed 60.8% of his passes for 6.4 YPA with 6 TDs against 5 INTs. And that was with noted quarterback guru Andy Reid.

People act like Foles was productive in a Brian Schottenheimer offense. Last year, his stats were exactly the same as Mark Sanchez.

brad johnson and trent dilfer won a superbowl

 

[Southpaw]

Kelly's system is run first and pass quick. Bradford took a beating in St. Louis and had garbage skill players to work with, not to mention a mediocre OL. Bradford can get rid of the ball Kelly style. Bradford may not even stay in Philly, come draft day. If Bradford helps land D. Murray, that adds value to his acquisition and Murray is meeting today. Kelly seems to have a long memory and eventually dumps players who don't buy in and/or fit the sheme, i.e. DeSean & LeSean. I trust the Chipper.

 

[Buckybird]

I know Chip Kelly's full of **** & clueless when he yesterday said "I've already had offers for Bradford for a #1 pick". Lol Yeah right Chip

 

[kerouac9]

brad johnson and trent dilfer won a superbowl

Yes. 12 and 14 years ago, respectively. Supported by historically great defenses. Not sure how much that fresh observation bears on this conversation.

 

[TJ]

Wildly overrated. Can you win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles? The answer is a clear no. Outside of Kelly's system he completed 60.8% of his passes for 6.4 YPA with 6 TDs against 5 INTs. And that was with noted quarterback guru Andy Reid.



People act like Foles was productive in a Brian Schottenheimer offense. Last year, his stats were exactly the same as Mark Sanchez.

Clear "no"? Hmm.

Your stats reference his rookie season on a team that was dead man walking. In 5 of 7 starts, his rating was at or above 85. Not stellar, but given the circumstances, not condemnable.

Never mind the following season in which he threw for 27 TDs and 2 INTs in an offense that was not tailored to his skill set. Must've been out of pure luck. It didn't help that his #1 guy D-Jax was cut during the offseason the following season.

I get people discounting the acquisition to make themselves feel better about next season, but undoubtedly, the Rams got better. He may or may not be their savior, but he's shown enough that he has more potential to make their offense better.

 

[kerouac9]

Clear "no"? Hmm.

Your stats reference his rookie season on a team that was dead man walking. In 5 of 7 starts, his rating was at or above 85. Not stellar, but given the circumstances, not condemnable.

Never mind the following season in which he threw for 27 TDs and 2 INTs in an offense that was not tailored to his skill set. Must've been out of pure luck. It didn't help that his #1 guy D-Jax was cut during the offseason the following season.

I get people discounting the acquisition to make themselves feel better about next season, but undoubtedly, the Rams got better. He may or may not be their savior, but he's shown enough that he has more potential to make their offense better.

Whatever, TJ. If Foles is so superior, why didn't he play better than Mark Sanchez this year? Maybe he was dragged along by a revolutionary offense and superior personnel? Hm.

I'm honestly not sure that Nick Foles is better than Shaun Hill. He's younger, I guess. There's very little evidence that Nick Foles can consistently be the player that he was for a small sample size in 2013.

Josh McCown threw 13 TDs versus 1 INT in 2013 for the Bears. Would you be saying these same things if Josh McCown had gone to St. Louis instead of Foles?

 

[gmabel830]

K9 - did you really get blocked by Urban? Hilarious!

 

[Shane]

K9 - did you really get blocked by Urban? Hilarious!

Details?? Hahha

 

[Metcalf Rules]

The title of this thread reminds me of Stanley Hudson.

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[crisper57]

Someone needs to tell Chip that this is not Fantasy Football and he can't field a team composed entirely of skill positions.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

They did sign both Murray and Matthews .

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Someone needs to tell Chip that this is not Fantasy Football and he can't field a team composed entirely of skill positions.

LOL the issue 2 days ago was that all these skill guys were replaceable. Chip cant win.

Im fascinated to watch this play out. Pure numbers

LeSean McCoy - 10 million Cap hit this year

Murray and Alonso - 9 Million Cap hit this year

So theres that.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

K9 - did you really get blocked by Urban? Hilarious!

This is right up there with "Man Bites Dog"

 

[crisper57]

Now that he lured Murray, Chip can spin off Bradford for that 1st round pick he was offered, package it with their other 1st rounder, and go try to get Mariota.

#predictable

 

[mojorizen7]

Healthy Bradford > Nick Foles

This is true, but enough is enough from the Rams perspective. Had to cut bait.

I'm honestly not sure that Nick Foles is better than Shaun Hill

He is. He's also better than Austin Davis and Kellen Clemens. You know, the QB's the Rams have trotted out there vs the NFC West the last two seasons...

Worst case scenario(besides Foles getting injured) is the Rams acquired a stop gap solution for one more season that can start 16 gm's, manage the game, throw some TD's and let our defense wreck the opposition...and won't single-handedly lose games for us in the 4th qtr by throwing pick 6's and making boneheaded decisions in winnable games.
You guys know how that feels now.

Btw, If Bradford stays upright in Philly(highly doubt it) he'll light it up. He'd have lit it up in St Louis too this year. I'm glad that monkey is off our backs at this point though. Sam wouldn't take a paycut despite the two ACL injuries. See ya. Good luck.

Most NFL fans are completely ignorant of Bradford's abilities.

 

[New Username]

brad johnson and trent dilfer won a superbowl

You mean their teams won a SB right?

 

[NJCardFan]

With all the moves the Eagles are making they're missing one glaring piece for the offense. They're severely lacking at WR. Right now they have Jordan Matthews, Riley Cooper, and a few guys from Oregon to go with Ertz and Celek. They have no deep threat. Even with Murray and Matthews I don't see them winning 5 games next season.

 

[Darkside]

Wildly overrated. Can you win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles? The answer is a clear no. Outside of Kelly's system he completed 60.8% of his passes for 6.4 YPA with 6 TDs against 5 INTs. And that was with noted quarterback guru Andy Reid.

People act like Foles was productive in a Brian Schottenheimer offense. Last year, his stats were exactly the same as Mark Sanchez.

This is kind of a fake argument. First, you don't know if he can win a SB. Many QBs have who weren't that great.

That aside though, all that really matters is can the Rams beat us with him behind center. And the answer is yes. We rarely even faced Bradford because he was always hurt, so the question further becomes is he better than Sams backups, and the answer is yes.

So he's a bigger threat to us, on an individual game basis, than Bradford was, and that's all I care about. Losing one or two games to them can ruin our season.

I don't care if they can win a SB, all I care about is can they win a game or two against us in our division and the answer is yes, they're capable with him behind center.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Wildly overrated. Can you win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles? The answer is a clear no. Outside of Kelly's system he completed 60.8% of his passes for 6.4 YPA with 6 TDs against 5 INTs. And that was with noted quarterback guru Andy Reid.

People act like Foles was productive in a Brian Schottenheimer offense. Last year, his stats were exactly the same as Mark Sanchez.

I'm not saying Foles is a great QB, but I think you can't really include stats from his rookie year under Reid. That's a tough to learn West Coast system.


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[ajcardfan]

This is kind of a fake argument. First, you don't know if he can win a SB. Many QBs have who weren't that great.

That aside though, all that really matters is can the Rams beat us with him behind center. And the answer is yes. We rarely even faced Bradford because he was always hurt, so the question further becomes is he better than Sams backups, and the answer is yes.

So he's a bigger threat to us, on an individual game basis, than Bradford was, and that's all I care about. Losing one or two games to them can ruin our season.

I don't care if they can win a SB, all I care about is can they win a game or two against us in our division and the answer is yes, they're capable with him behind center.

All I know is I'm not happy with this trade. I remember Foles leading the Eagles down the field and taking 3 or 4 shots at the end zone that took great plays from our secondary to win that game. Hell, he even juked the Honey Badger on a 4th down scramble to keep the drive alive. The Rams are definitely scarier now than they were a week ago. Bradford is going to get eaten alive in Philly and take Kelly down with him.

 

[kerouac9]

This is kind of a fake argument. First, you don't know if he can win a SB. Many QBs have who weren't that great.

That aside though, all that really matters is can the Rams beat us with him behind center. And the answer is yes. We rarely even faced Bradford because he was always hurt, so the question further becomes is he better than Sams backups, and the answer is yes.

So he's a bigger threat to us, on an individual game basis, than Bradford was, and that's all I care about. Losing one or two games to them can ruin our season.

I don't care if they can win a SB, all I care about is can they win a game or two against us in our division and the answer is yes, they're capable with him behind center.

I'm not sure that you can say that any more authoritatively than you can dismiss Foles being able to win a Super Bowl. It's been 12 years since an average QB won the Super Bowl; it's time to stop making the argument that "well, Trent Dilfer won one."

As for Foles and the Rams being able to beat us--I just don't think that Foles makes the talent around him better on offense. I'm not sure where the evidence is for that. Are the Rams more likely to beat us with Foles than they were with Shaun Hill? I don't think so. Those games are still likely to depend on their defense.

Yeah, Foles put up 400 yards on our D this year, but it took him 62 attempts (!!!) to make that happen. I'll take my chances--he threw 2 INTs and got the benefit of two HUGE plays from Jeremy Maclin to make that happen.