Chip kelly: HC of the niners

[Cardiac]

I'm pretty sure I recall BA calling it a high school offense. Chip has like 8 plays for game day and then runs variations off those plays. The QB is NOT allowed to audible or change a play at the LOS.

In his last 24 games he has a losing record. Sounds like the NFL has figured out his quick tempo "genius" offense.

Seriously, how many times have we heard players bashing a HC when be traded to another team???? Chip has so alienated players that they actually make negative comments about him after being exited. Does this happen much or ever?

I have complete faith in BASK to upgrade the holes in our roster (LBers) so that Chip and Kaperneck won't be beating us.

 

[pemory09]

Colin Kaepernick's career in SF has been saved.

Really? You think SF is gonna pick up his $12 million dollar option? And if they do, not sure if Kelly can fix the guy. Kaepernick struggles to hit receivers unless they're standing still and wide-open.

 

[CardsFan88]

Personally I don't see how Kaep can run an up tempo offense and once it's snapped, be able to make quick reads and accurate throws. That's what he's horrible at, and now they want him to rush himself into that situation.

I can see him being able to run the read-option which Bradford couldn't, but I don't see Kaep making the type of reads Bradford was able to. If there was a QB named Samollin Kaeperford, I would be scared. As is, Bradford>Kaep. What he can run fits better in the NFL then what Kaep will be able to do.

Does Chip want to run the read-option a ton in an up tempo offense? That'll kill Kaep.

Chip has all the bad parts of Harbaugh, without the good (player relations). There were pretty major power plays in Philly and SF, and now the two instigators of that are coming together. Seems like it's too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.

Even Tomsula was a player's coach. Now they are going to face a culture shock with Chip.

Hyde doesn't look like his type of back, so we could see him DeMarco Murray'ed. Or not. But the roster is not conducive to what Chip wants.

Who are they going to throw to Torrey Smith? Boldin doesn't fit the mold.

Also since Chip wants particular players, I wonder if him and Baalke will discuss what Chip wants... Can Chip communicate that effectively? He couldn't even do it with himself when he signed Murray.

If you looked at what the 49ers said they wanted in a coach, the metrics were horrible. They wanted a veteran coach with a big name and a clear vision. Great way to pick a coach! Especially when Chip's vision really hasn't been clear.

Maybe he does great. But the process didn't look right. The fit doesn't look right. The players don't look compatible. So overall I don't think it works. It will be interesting though. Maybe he'll take a QB with their 1st round pick... maybe get RGIII. Who knows.

 

[Big D]

How long before Chip inevitably tells us Kaepernick is so good some anonymous GM/team offered him a first rd pick for him?

 

[Cardiac]

How long before Chip inevitably tells us Kaepernick is so good some anonymous GM/team offered him a first rd pick for him?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

They could've done a lot worse.

I was hoping for Shanny...he would have traded their draft picks away.

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[Brak]

Really? You think SF is gonna pick up his $12 million dollar option? And if they do, not sure if Kelly can fix the guy. Kaepernick struggles to hit receivers unless they're standing still and wide-open.

I'd be shocked if they didn't. Why? It's "only" $12m. Look around at what starting QBs earn nowadays - that's cheap. And they have an annual "out" if they decide to let him go at any point. So they'd be crazy to not give him at least one year under Kelly to see how it goes.

That said - I think the whole thing is going to be a colossal failure. Kelly's personality won't play well in a place where Harbaugh's didn't. Black players aren't going to want to play for him, at least some won't. They'll have trouble attracting free agents in general because of the dumpster fire front office/ownership situation. Kelly's offense has been largely "figured out" by the rest of the league. Kap can't read a defense to save his soul and has ZERO pocket presence. If he is used as more of a read-option, running QB, he'll get killed in short order. The defense will get worn out due to the constant hurry-up offense. I could go on and on. Not gonna work, at least that's my read today. Will be fun to watch play out.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Wow. Was giving they Niner fans at work a hard time.

Not only are they stuck with Chip it means they most likely keep CK on the roster. It's like the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Kaepernick is not a good fit for Kelly's offense. He can't make any touch throws and is inaccurate.

Sure, he can run, but that won't last long once he starts taking hits. Maybe they can bring in Tebow and Terrell Pryor and have worst passing QB combo in history. But I'm sure they could win the PAC 12 with them.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kaepernick is not a good fit for Kelly's offense. He can't make any touch throws and is inaccurate.

Sure, he can run, but that won't last long once he starts taking hits. Maybe they can bring in Tebow and Terrell Pryor and have worst passing QB combo in history. But I'm sure they could win the PAC 12 with them.

I disagree on the fit...Kelly's offense is a run based offense if you read his thoughts about it. It is predicated on RBs winning one on one matchups at the first level, and the QB being able to hold the backside DE. Kaep can do all of those things.

In terms of touch passes, Kelly's offense doesn't use a ton of them. It is a quick flick to the bubble screen, the post route to the slot WR/TE, and a bunch of crossing routes. All of those can be hit by a QB who is a power thrower. That is why Vick had success in Kelly's system.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Chip Kelly over Mike Shanahan might have come down to Colin Kaepernick

http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/1/...ahan-might-have-come-down-to-colin-kaepernick

The spin continues with the San Francisco 49ers and Colin Kaepernick. Bleacher Report's Jason Cole is reporting that one of the reasons the team selected Chip Kelly over Mike Shanahan is related to Colin Kaepernick. Cole said that the front office believed Mike Shanahan wanted to move on from Kaepernick, and they think Kaepernick can be salvaged with Chip Kelly.

 

[TJ]

Really? You think SF is gonna pick up his $12 million dollar option? And if they do, not sure if Kelly can fix the guy. Kaepernick struggles to hit receivers unless they're standing still and wide-open.

Absolutely. Kaep can be salvaged by Kelly. He is the closest thing that Kelly has had to his Oregon QBs with whom he had success. Foles, Bradford, and Sanchez were square pegs in round holes.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Absolutely. Kaep can be salvaged by Kelly. He is the closest thing that Kelly has had to his Oregon QBs with whom he had success. Foles, Bradford, and Sanchez were square pegs in round holes.

Yep. If he can't make it work with Kaep, he can't make it work in the NFL.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think my question is if he's going to be able to get along with his GM and his QB.

I get that he calls all the plays, so CK doesn't have to and that's good. But CK from what you hear struggled to get along with Harbaugh as much as anybody did, even when Harbaugh was getting the best out of him.

Now Kelly is so demanding he routinely changes QB's if they don't do what he wants. Does that work for CK?

As for the running part I'm not sure he actually ran less last year. He played less games but his YPC was higher last year and his runs were only slightly down. The problem is as I said they went out and got WR's so now they were expecting the QB to get the ball to them. With Harbaugh gone they changed the offense to a more timing based offense, but CK was so bad at it he was always late on throws or just never made the throw at all. Look at the first game against us both of those picksixes were the result of the ball coming out late the pressure getting him to throw rushed to a spot and not realizing the DB was there.

This notion that they tried to make him into a pocket QB is not really true, the difference is they tried to have a timing based offense as opposed to one where he drops back runs around and someone cuts left at the rose bush and gets open.

Kelly is a very detail oriented coach, I think he's actually going to be much more demanding of his QB than QB friendly.

Or as Vick put it, it took me a bit to realize if I wanted to be in the competition to play QB for Chip Kelly I better learn those signals. I spent more time learnign the signals than the plays, there aren't that many plays, because the way it operates if you don't know the signals you can't call the play and then you can't play for him.

I hope CK gets that or he's going to be out there looking silly not knowing the signals or asking to have it repeated, something that was a constant problem under Harbaugh where they had to call timeout or take a penalty regularly because CK didn't always know what the play was.

 

[USAFMEDIC]

He should have never left Oregon. Could have gotten a lifetime contract there. Beautiful area, and would have still made millions.

 

[conraddobler]

I see nothing in what he did for the Eagles to make me hope this will work out well.

It works at some level but not enough to mess with and he's not that innovative with it so by now I think a lot of teams know what to do.

Mostly as Russ said he's going to wear on the players and the front office over time and be gone in a couple I think just my opinion.

 

[GatorAZ]

Chip Kelly had one bad season over the past decade and now he's a terrible coach beyond repair. It's a tough buisness folks.

 

[oaken1]

I hope chip and CK get it moving...show just enough improvement to instill faith in the niners ownership for a couple years... at least long enough for Kap to get a huge long term financially crippling contract...

 

[conraddobler]

Chip Kelly had one bad season over the past decade and now he's a terrible coach beyond repair. It's a tough buisness folks.

Really?

He got fired after one bad year that means something else was going on doesn't it?

The reports out of Philly say he wasn't talking to players or management at all that's not good.

I for the life of me can't understand why he got rid of Maclin.

 

[Azlen]

The thing to watch for is how much he is willing to change based on what worked and what didn't in Philadelphia. One thing that definitely didn't end up working was tempo all the time. It ended up wearing out his defense much more than it did the other team's defense. Curious to see if he changes how much he uses it.