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looks like the league actually got this right. Demps agreed to what was a REALLY questionable trade that would help the Hornets be pertually mediocre at best and with zero hope the future, the league called the trade and Demps an idiot, took away his power, then got a king's ransom with a dynamic young scorer in Gordon, a likely top #3 lotto pick in the deepest draft in a decade, another lotto pick from last year and a big expiring contract... who also was an all-star C just a couple years ago.

bitch all you want Laker fans... but the League owns the Hornets and they actually made the right move killing a terrible trade for the Hornets and getting a killer one instead.
 

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It's still BS to say the first trade was canceled for "basketball reasons."

IMHO no team should start the year without proper ownership in place. Weak to have the league squashing one deal and accepting another like this.
 

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It's still BS to say the first trade was canceled for "basketball reasons."

IMHO no team should start the year without proper ownership in place. Weak to have the league squashing one deal and accepting another like this.

why? the basketball reason was the trade that Demps made was a REALLY BAD basketball trade. are you trying to tell me the Lakers-Houston trade was even CLOSE to being as good as what NO eventually got?
 

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why? the basketball reason was the trade that Demps made was a REALLY BAD basketball trade. are you trying to tell me the Lakers-Houston trade was even CLOSE to being as good as what NO eventually got?

The worst part about the LA trade was that it made no sense for the Hornets. LA gave up a reasonable amount of talent but the last thing New Orleans needed was high priced players on the downside of their career. This Clippers deal makes a lot of sense for both teams and if anything, the Hornets got the best end of it. And that is saying something when you're talking about a forced trade of a superstar.

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I have to agree. This is a much better deal for the Hornets. The commish was right after all. Now, get a buyer and never go through this again.
 

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why? the basketball reason was the trade that Demps made was a REALLY BAD basketball trade. are you trying to tell me the Lakers-Houston trade was even CLOSE to being as good as what NO eventually got?

Yeah, it was so bad that there was universal incredulity that the trade was rejected by Stern. Why was it such a huge story if the Lakers/Hornets trade was so bad?

The Lakers lost out on Paul and you want to gloat. Fine. At least be honest about it.

No way was Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic and draft picks for Paul a "really bad" trade.
 

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It's totally hilarious that the Lakers get screwed and the Clippers are the team that gets the guy they wanted. NEVER thought I'd ever see something like that happen.
 

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Yeah, it was so bad that there was universal incredulity that the trade was rejected by Stern. Why was it such a huge story if the Lakers/Hornets trade was so bad?

The Lakers lost out on Paul and you want to gloat. Fine. At least be honest about it.

No way was Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic and draft picks for Paul a "really bad" trade.

:yeahthat:

If the NBA didn't own the Hornets the first deal would have been in the books.

You say this deal is great, but wait ... maybe they could have done EVEN better?! :rolleyes:

They were dealing with a superstar and trying to deal him to one of his chosen teams. Happens all the time when you're going to lose a player for nothing if you do not deal him. Heck, the Toronto Raptors could have offered a better deal, but CP3 wouldn't want to go there. He wanted to go to LA. He just had to settle for the other LA in this situation.
 

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The worst part about the LA trade was that it made no sense for the Hornets. LA gave up a reasonable amount of talent but the last thing New Orleans needed was high priced players on the downside of their career. This Clippers deal makes a lot of sense for both teams and if anything, the Hornets got the best end of it. And that is saying something when you're talking about a forced trade of a superstar.

Steve

This makes the Hornets more marketable to potential buyers as well as competitive for the future.

Glad we did not get Demps for our GM.
 

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The worst part about the LA trade was that it made no sense for the Hornets. LA gave up a reasonable amount of talent but the last thing New Orleans needed was high priced players on the downside of their career. This Clippers deal makes a lot of sense for both teams and if anything, the Hornets got the best end of it. And that is saying something when you're talking about a forced trade of a superstar.

Steve

exactly.
 

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:yeahthat:

If the NBA didn't own the Hornets the first deal would have been in the books.

You say this deal is great, but wait ... maybe they could have done EVEN better?! :rolleyes:

They were dealing with a superstar and trying to deal him to one of his chosen teams. Happens all the time when you're going to lose a player for nothing if you do not deal him. Heck, the Toronto Raptors could have offered a better deal, but CP3 wouldn't want to go there. He wanted to go to LA. He just had to settle for the other LA in this situation.

I am so happy that you hate this.
 

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So I'm wondering how the Clippers are going to keep Billups happy?
 

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Yeah, it was so bad that there was universal incredulity that the trade was rejected by Stern. Why was it such a huge story if the Lakers/Hornets trade was so bad?

The Lakers lost out on Paul and you want to gloat. Fine. At least be honest about it.

No way was Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic and draft picks for Paul a "really bad" trade.

Its a horrible trade. And that has been proven by what they got from the Clips. Too bad the NBA could not have saved us from the Kurt Thomas trade.
 

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why? the basketball reason was the trade that Demps made was a REALLY BAD basketball trade. are you trying to tell me the Lakers-Houston trade was even CLOSE to being as good as what NO eventually got?

BIMs just mad because he's a Lakers fan.
 

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Yeah, it was so bad that there was universal incredulity that the trade was rejected by Stern. Why was it such a huge story if the Lakers/Hornets trade was so bad?

because it was the first time a team has ever owned a team and excersised that right.

The Lakers lost out on Paul and you want to gloat. Fine. At least be honest about it.

No way was Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic and draft picks for Paul a "really bad" trade.

are you kidding me? Renz, would you want your team MAXED out for four years with a team of Dragic, Martin, Odom, Scola and Okafor? That trade is AWFUL because your team will ALWAYS win 35-40 games and nothing more. Trying to argue otherwise is incredibly stupid.

And to make that trade when there was a trade out there to be had that would get you salary cap room, a young stud at SG AND a high lotto pick in the best draft in decades? Yeah, that makes the above trade EVEN WORSE.

Take off the Laker colored glasses and realize the League did EXACTLY what a well run franchise does. It gets THE MOST for it's players in a trade.
 

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So I'm wondering how the Clippers are going to keep Billups happy?

Winning usually helps. Billups has an opportunity to be part of something special. He is probably happy with this.

Oh, and Billups and Paul could play together some.
 

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I am so happy that you hate this.

Not really too upset. I don't like competing against CP3, but that doesn't automatically make him the greatest fit to our team.

I have faith in Mitch and the organization. They'll get us #17 soon enough. :D
 

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IMO this trade makes the Suns completely irrelevant.

If they weren't already. The Suns aren't even in the top 10 in the West. Why aren't they exploring the possibility of getting something for Nash?
 

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and Renz, just answer me this one simple question: Which was the better trade? the Laker-Houston-Hornets trade or the Clippers-Hornets trade?
 

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IMO this trade makes the Suns completely irrelevant.

If they weren't already. The Suns aren't even in the top 10 in the West. Why aren't they exploring the possibility of getting something for Nash?

Now you'll look and see two LA teams above you in the standings. :cool:

Maybe you should ask the league to handle a Nash trade on your behalf...
 
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IMHO no team should start the year without proper ownership in place. Weak to have the league squashing one deal and accepting another like this.

Bills Simmons wrote that a potential buyer may have nixed the deal and that the buyer is staying low key until the Chris Paul issues were resolved.
 

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:yeahthat:

If the NBA didn't own the Hornets the first deal would have been in the books.

A team owner can reject a stupid trade their GM makes. Demps made the mistake of thinking he was the final decision because the ownership is in limbo but the league made the call that any competent would have.

The Lakers trade was horrible on every level. Laker fans can try to justify it by saying talking suits thought it was a good deal but it added a ton of salary(last year Cuban complained about them adding any salary since all the other owners are having to pay), it didn't improve the team significantly and didn't make the team more attractive to potential owners.

The league just showed every other owner how to deal with a superstar trying to force their hand. Honestly even if the Clippers offer didn't materialize the Hornets would have been better off long term letting Paul reach FA and doing a S&T to acquire picks and a trade exception.
 
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