Chris Paul Is The Best Player In The NBA.

[WildBB]

Best player in the league right now. Period. Kobe is great, but he doesn't control his entire offense like Paul does.

I mean right now he has 30 points and 12 assist's.. Come on! That's Nash on steroids (and with a chip on his shoulder..lol).

 

[D-Dogg]

Yeah I know, and I cringed after that and wrote afterward saying this should have nothing to do with Kobe. But this entire argument is a waste of time. Nobody can be right or wrong.

I mean Phade thinks Kobe is a rapist. I think that girl was just horny and wanted some NBA loving'. Ether way this isn't an argument or debate that can be won.

CP3 is arguable as the best player in the game, though I and many others feel he falls juuuust short. But he's hands down the best PG.

*summoning Deron Williams fans*

 

[btimsah]

I said that CP3 is the second best, and not quite there yet. How is that not about CP3? It's a counter claim. And if you think the Hornets will win the west, wouldn't their likely opponent in the WCF be relevant?

KG has never been in the "best in the game" discussion. LeBron has, but CP3 is better than he is (Bron has no D).

There are two guys in the league that could have the "best" label on them...you are that shocked that a claim like the original thread title and even your own mention of the other guy in your first post would end up with a discussion involving both?

Unless you expected 100 "yeah!" ":hifive: "preach it brother" "CP3 4 Me!" type responses...

No, all I'm saying is the arguing is the B.S. And yes, that goes for some suns fan on here too. No doubt. Some of us garnered a hatred for Kobe after our series against them when Raja threw him to the ground. To hate on Kobe because he had sex outside of marriage is laughable. The NBA is notorious for this. Magic contracted Hiv Aids because of that lifestyle, and yes it was from women.

HOWEVER I STILL THINK CP3 IS THE BEST PLAYER (HARDEST TO STOP) IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS.

 

[D-Dogg]

HOWEVER I STILL THINK CP3 IS THE BEST PLAYER (HARDEST TO STOP) IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS.

That's your call. Throwing in "hardest to stop" in there is just asking for more though, you should know.

 

[cobbler]

That's your call. Throwing in "hardest to stop" in there is just asking for more though, you should know.

Hardest to stop
most valuable
best player in the game
etc
etc
etc

All subjective or it would be unanimous every year would it not? Most the Kobe or Laker fans i have read here have said it was 50/50 going into the stretch and the Lakers came out on top giving the nod to Kobe. I havent seen any disrespect for CP3. Just the opposite. On the other hand, and of course it solicits response from Laker fans, many of the CP3 posters resort to past "personal" discretions or kobe bashing to solidify their argument. If you say, Hey i think CP3 had a better year and was more important, I cannot really argue that. It was that close. But when you say hes getting it as a lifetime achievement, or bring up rape, adultery, tantrums etc.. YOU LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY!

I'll tell you this though. Have em play a game of one on one and i'm putting my money on KB.

 

[Joe L]

I'll tell you this though. Have em play a game of one on one and i'm putting my money on KB.

That is not the way you play basketball. That is not the measuring tool for MVP.

Here is a better scenario:

Pick 2 of the worst teams that are evenly matched and put KB & cp3 on each one of the teams. Have them play 1 year and see who comes out with the best record. The team with the best record is obviously the MVP.
My choice? I'll put my money on CP3

 

[Phade]

That is not the way you play basketball. That is not the measuring tool for MVP.

Here is a better scenario:

Pick 2 of the worst teams that are evenly matched and put KB & cp3 on each one of the teams. Have them play 1 year and see who comes out with the best record. The team with the best record is obviously the MVP.
My choice? I'll put my money on CP3

with new kobes team the entire team would be asking be traded away next year..

 

[Renz]

with new kobes team the entire team would be asking be traded away next year..

Dude, are you drunk?

 

[Renz]

HOWEVER I STILL THINK CP3 IS THE BEST PLAYER (HARDEST TO STOP) IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS.

Their last meeting, Kobe guarded Paul and he shot 4-13. NO ONE stops Kobe.

 

[dodie53]

imo,
no one stops kobe when he really wants to do something

 

[Joe L]

Their last meeting, Kobe guarded Paul and he shot 4-13. NO ONE stops Kobe.

I am not sure if he was, My brother who is what I consider the lakers biggest fan said it was Fisher, not kobe. Maybe Kobe alternated with Fish but I don't remember that happening. Anyway, Cp3 did shoot 4-13 during that game but what you fail to say is that he got 17 assists during that game and most of them during their comeback in the second half.




edit: I had to verify what you said and after looking at the highlights, i was right, Kobe didn't guard Paul, it was Fisher.

If you like, here is the link:
http://www.nba.com/games/20080411/NOHLAL/gameinfo.html

C'mon Renz, I almost fell for it.

 

[D-Dogg]

Anyway, Cp3 did shoot 4-13 during that game but what you fail to say is that he got 17 assists during that game and most of them during their comeback in the second half.

I don't care if he got 17 dimes, as long as he didn't get 30 points. Conversely, he can have 30 points if he only gets 7 assists or so.

You just can't let him have both. I prefer to give him his points and take away the passing lanes...the Steve Nash Strategy.

 

[Joe L]

I don't care if he got 17 dimes, as long as he didn't get 30 points. Conversely, he can have 30 points if he only gets 7 assists or so.

You just can't let him have both. I prefer to give him his points and take away the passing lanes...the Steve Nash Strategy.

What? He got most of his assists in the second half and they came back from over a 20 point deficit...this with a bad shooting day...4-13. How do you think they got those points? The hornets lost that game because they started slow. Even then, they came to within 1 point. This in one half. They won't make that mistake again...not the way they've been playing.

Paul isn't averaging 30 points a game, they are winning with him averaging 24/12 a game.

 

[D-Dogg]

What?

WHAT?

You heard me. It's pretty simple logic.

Take away one or the other.


You told me the Lakers should be afraid of the Nuggets. No way they could sweep them, not even close. Pardon me if I take your comments with not just a grain of salt, but an entire salt lick.

 

[Phade]

WHAT?

You heard me. It's pretty simple logic.

Take away one or the other.


You told me the Lakers should be afraid of the Nuggets. No way they could sweep them, not even close. Pardon me if I take your comments with not just a grain of salt, but an entire salt lick.

melo dont make those comments you guys lose in 7 to denver..

 

[D-Dogg]

melo dont make those comments you guys lose in 7 to denver..

Gee, you can post under your old username now.

 

[Joe L]

WHAT?

You heard me. It's pretty simple logic.

Take away one or the other.


You told me the Lakers should be afraid of the Nuggets. No way they could sweep them, not even close. Pardon me if I take your comments with not just a grain of salt, but an entire salt lick.

I never said that and stop eating salt cause your blood pressure is going to your head. I said be careful what you wish for. I said they had a good bench and I don't remember saying that they couldn't sweep them so lets cut the drama.

 

[Renz]

Gee, you can post under your old username now.

Ahhhh. Phade = Gee. Well, that answers my "are you drunk" question.

 

[D-Dogg]

I never said that and stop eating salt cause your blood pressure is going to your head. I said be careful what you wish for. I said they had a good bench and I don't remember saying that they couldn't sweep them so lets cut the drama.

I pulled this up earlier:

Be careful what you wish for...just saying. I've watched the last 10 games from Denver and I have to say they they have more players other than CA & AI. J.R. Smith, Kleiza & K. Mart have been playing great at the right time. They have managed to beat the Suns , Rockets, Mavs, GS (twice). They have only lost to Utah (in Utah) in the last 10 games that is a contender.
The Lakers have managed to win 3 from Denver but this is the best man to man match up between all teams in the first round. It won't be a sweep or no where near it. Your better option is the Mavs.
I can see a the Mavs winning 1 game but a see a real battle with Denver. If the Lakers run with Denver, they will be in trouble. The Lakers are going to have should slow the game and clog up the interior. If there interior defense is sup par, Denver will give them a hard time. Interior defense is the Lakers weakness and if they don't protect it, AI will take advantage of it. Mavs don't have the people to do that. Kidd hasn't been his ol' self with the Mavs so that is an advantage for the Lakers. Josh Howard has also been less of a threat as well. Your best bet is the Mavs...no doubt.

Thanks, Lasaltjoe.

 

[D-Dogg]

Ahhhh. Phade = Gee. Well, that answers my "are you drunk" question.

Just an educated guess.

 

[Joe L]

I pulled this up earlier:



Thanks, Lasaltjoe.

Alright, you got me. I really didn't remember the rest of it. I guess my middle name is Morton

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[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I agree CP3 desrved to win MVP, but I wont argue with Kobe...its kind of a 1a and 1b scenario to me...

 

[D-Dogg]

Lol...Morton.

You've got a good sense of humor...hell, you must with the Cards and the Clips.

 

[Joe L]

Lol...Morton.

You've got a good sense of humor...hell, you must with the Cards and the Clips.

Yup, I'm a sucker for the underdog and what is kind of ironic, I take my team's histories with a grain of salt too.

 

[Lorenzo]

Yes, it's hard to integrate players, even very good ones like Bynum and Pau, in and out of the lineup. Kobe was able to adjust his game accordingly and keep the Lakers on top of the toughest conference ever.

As for the Hornets' history, why is that relevant? Aren't we arguing this season?

I don't see how you can claim that Kobe's MVP is a career award and then turn around and use the New Orleans franchise's past as evidence of Paul's MVP credentials.

he's doing it because voters are doing it for kobe. when a voter or media type says kobe should win because he has BEEN......that is pretty clear that they are looking in the past. Is kobe that much better this year than he was last year when his team bearly made the playoffs? remember kobe wanted out just before the season. Is kobe an MVP without gasol or bynum emerging early? no....but that's ok. this is a team award and we all knew that if kobe ever got some reliable teammates and shared the bball he would win the award eventually. I have no problem with him winning it...he does deserve it. I would have voted for paul though. not based on anything other than this year in the regular season.