Clippers @ Suns 3-30-17

[GatorAZ]

Chriss doesn't know what he's doing yet puts up good numbers. That's a good sign for the future.

 

[Yuma]

Not saying he did it on purpose, but Rush Hour misses 4 free throws down the stretch he usually makes and we lose by 6. They interview JJ, and he got burned a bunch this game, LOL!

 

[Yuma]

De'Aaron Fox — 6-3, Fr., G (Kentucky)
Bam Adebayo — 6-10, Fr., F (Kentucky)

These are the only 2 I know of. Were we draft with our 2cnd and third picks they will be long gone. With our first pick WAY too early to pick them.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

De'Aaron Fox — 6-3, Fr., G (Kentucky)
Bam Adebayo — 6-10, Fr., F (Kentucky)

These are the only 2 I know of. Were we draft with our 2cnd and third picks they will be long gone. With our first pick WAY too early to pick them.

As far as Fox is concerned it really depends on where our 1st pick lands. If it lands around 5 then he could be the best player on the board. If it's in the top 3 then I would certainly say it's too early.

 

[Mainstreet]

De'Aaron Fox — 6-3, Fr., G (Kentucky)
Bam Adebayo — 6-10, Fr., F (Kentucky)

These are the only 2 I know of. Were we draft with our 2cnd and third picks they will be long gone. With our first pick WAY too early to pick them.

D. Fox and Malik Monk are slated to be drafted top ten in the mocks. I think Adebayo is a mid-round pick.

 

[Yuma]

As far as Fox is concerned it really depends on where our 1st pick lands. If it lands around 5 then he could be the best player on the board. If it's in the top 3 then I would certainly say it's too early.

I'd like us to pick up Bam, who knows.

 

[Yuma]

Malik Monk for the Suns: https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/03/29/phoenix-suns-draft-watch-malik-monk/

 

[Mainstreet]

Malik Monk for the Suns: https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/03/29/phoenix-suns-draft-watch-malik-monk/

I think Fox is the better player and he is a PG. They are both about the same height and can score. I'd choose the PG every time because they are only 6'3." I think Monk may be a Eric Gordon type player.

 

[sunsfan88]

The Suns really need some 3pt shooting. All of McDs draft picks who have played in the league (Goodwin, Warren, Ennis, Ulis, Chriss, Bender) have been awful 3pt shooters besides Booker.

I hope we don't draft another non shooter in the draft. The NBA is now more than EVER reliant on 3pt shooting. Its not a coincidence that the best teams in the league have a bunch of amazing shooters on it like the Dubs, Cavs and Rockets.

 

[slinslin]

Chriss has not been an awful 3pt shooter.

He is shooting 33% from 3 as a 19 year old rookie PF. 39% since the allstar break.

And he is taking almost 5 3s per 36 minutes. It is not like he is shooting 1 or 2 like many power forwards.

I am pretty damn sure that Chriss will be one of the best power forwards in terms of knocking down 3s and also blocking shots.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I am pretty damn sure that Chriss will be one of the best power forwards in terms of knocking down 3s and also blocking shots.

Agreed, which is an amazing combination in today's NBA!

 

[Carolinacacti]

Agreed, which is an amazing combination in today's NBA!

The Suns pick this year could be Chriss's backup. Nice to see him have a good game.

 

[slinslin]

The Suns pick this year could be Chriss's backup. Nice to see him have a good game.

No, why in the world would we draft a backup PF?

Markkannen is not good enough for our pick and we still have Bender who is a 4, but hopefully 5 long term.

 

[pokerface]

No, why in the world would we draft a backup PF?

Markkannen is not good enough for our pick and we still have Bender who is a 4, but hopefully 5 long term.

So you haven't written Bender off yet?

 

[Ronin]

ESPN Stats & Info‏ @ESPNStatsInfo
With his 30+ point performance, Devin Booker had his 12th 30-point game this year, doubling his output from last season (6 such games)

 

[slinslin]

So you haven't written Bender off yet?

I still think he was a really bad pick and would trade him if there was another GM who believes that he is worth a #4 pick.

But why would I not hope he develops and proves me wrong? Doubt it though, he has so much to work on starting with basic things like his body, confidence, shooting, toughness, scoring repertoire.. We have seen nothing so far from him offensively besides making an open 3 every no and then while badly missing in between. That is concerning to me, he did not show much in Europe either.

I still can't believe how some US scouts produced scouting reports that made Bender seem like a skilled all-around player.

He is probably 3 years away from being half-decent and puts us in the same position as Len where he will become a free agent and you have to pay him based on what his development over the next 3 years could be.

Even if Bender works out and reache his potential it will be years to get there.

I just hope he does not play for the national team. He will surely sit on the bench for most if not all of the time and he badly needs to use the summer to get stronger and develop an offensive move or two where you can pass him the ball and he can actually make a play.

 

[Mainstreet]

I still think he was a really bad pick and would trade him if there was another GM who believes that he is worth a #4 pick.

But why would I not hope he develops and proves me wrong? Doubt it though, he has so much to work on starting with basic things like his body, confidence, shooting, toughness, scoring repertoire.. We have seen nothing so far from him offensively besides making an open 3 every no and then while badly missing in between. That is concerning to me, he did not show much in Europe either.

I still can't believe how some US scouts produced scouting reports that made Bender seem like a skilled all-around player.

He is probably 3 years away from being half-decent and puts us in the same position as Len where he will become a free agent and you have to pay him based on what his development over the next 3 years could be.

Even if Bender works out and reache his potential it will be years to get there.

I just hope he does not play for the national team. He will surely sit on the bench for most if not all of the time and he badly needs to use the summer to get stronger and develop an offensive move or two where you can pass him the ball and he can actually make a play.

I'm glad you see Bender as needing time to develop. Bender was only 18 when he started the season and he has only played in 38 games due to the bone spur. As you point out, why shouldn't every Suns fan want him to succeed. Personally, I feel it is way to early to judge him. If he can learn to hit the 3 point shot and develop physically, he should be on his way. Athletically, I think Bender is much further along than Len.

The thought has occurred to me, if the Suns trade for a star, he might be a piece of that trade to make it work.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I still think he was a really bad pick and would trade him if there was another GM who believes that he is worth a #4 pick.

But why would I not hope he develops and proves me wrong? Doubt it though, he has so much to work on starting with basic things like his body, confidence, shooting, toughness, scoring repertoire.. We have seen nothing so far from him offensively besides making an open 3 every no and then while badly missing in between. That is concerning to me, he did not show much in Europe either.

I still can't believe how some US scouts produced scouting reports that made Bender seem like a skilled all-around player.

He is probably 3 years away from being half-decent and puts us in the same position as Len where he will become a free agent and you have to pay him based on what his development over the next 3 years could be.

Even if Bender works out and reache his potential it will be years to get there.

I just hope he does not play for the national team. He will surely sit on the bench for most if not all of the time and he badly needs to use the summer to get stronger and develop an offensive move or two where you can pass him the ball and he can actually make a play.

We are on opposite ends on the Bender selection. I absolutely love what Bender has shown at such a young age and while being so underdeveloped physically. I see absolutely no reason why he can't fill out just fine over the next couple seasons.

I completely disagree about his timeline though as I believe defensively he already does enough to get himself on the court and he has shown a solid 3 point stroke to this point (Could be looking even better from 3 if he was available for the same increase in minutes that Chriss has seen).

Ultimately I love both picks (Chriss and Bender) as I think they will compliment each other very nicely. On defense Bender will be the one guarding the stretch 4's and switching onto smaller players in the pick and roll and Chriss should be more equipped to handle the bigger guys down low (at least until Bender fills out more). Offensively we would stretch the floor beautifully with both of them on the floor as the 4 and 5 as they have both shown they can knock down the 3 pretty consistently. As for how they project on offense I see Chriss as more likely to develop a solid post game and maybe an Amare like face-up game and Bender as more of a jack of all trades Kukoc type player on offense (can shoot, handle the ball, facilitate).

 

[JCSunsfan]

We are on opposite ends on the Bender selection. I absolutely love what Bender has shown at such a young age and while being so underdeveloped physically. I see absolutely no reason why he can't fill out just fine over the next couple seasons.

I completely disagree about his timeline though as I believe defensively he already does enough to get himself on the court and he has shown a solid 3 point stroke to this point (Could be looking even better from 3 if he was available for the same increase in minutes that Chriss has seen).

Ultimately I love both picks (Chriss and Bender) as I think they will compliment each other very nicely. On defense Bender will be the one guarding the stretch 4's and switching onto smaller players in the pick and roll and Chriss should be more equipped to handle the bigger guys down low (at least until Bender fills out more). Offensively we would stretch the floor beautifully with both of them on the floor as the 4 and 5 as they have both shown they can knock down the 3 pretty consistently. As for how they project on offense I see Chriss as more likely to develop a solid post game and maybe an Amare like face-up game and Bender as more of a jack of all trades Kukoc type player on offense (can shoot, handle the ball, facilitate).

I totally agree with this post. I am optimistic about Bender. I like what I have seen in his skill set, mentality, mobility etc. But it is still VERY early. Some players show great promise to begin with but never develop.

Who was that player that looked that way about 15 years ago, and then had one injury and it messed up his mindset? He was a euro forward. I think his name started with a Z.

 

[3rdside]

Zarko carbarkapa. He did look good for a bit. Who was the tall white 6'10" guy we got from the rockets that was the butt of a few jokes?

Pretty sure bender is no kukoc btw - I'd peg him in as a small ball or stretch five. Will have solid defence cause of his lateral mobility but not huge range on offence bar the three point shot, which is a huge strength of his. All to play for still though.


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[JCSunsfan]

Zarko carbarkapa. He did look good for a bit. Who was the tall white 6'10" guy we got from the rockets that was the butt of a few jokes?

Pretty sure bender is no kukoc btw - I'd peg him in as a small ball or stretch five. Will have solid defence cause of his lateral mobility but not huge range on offence bar the three point shot, which is a huge strength of his. All to play for still though.


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Are you talking about Dan Langhi?

 

[3rdside]

The Langhi, that's the one haha

 

[Mainstreet]

Was Dan Langhi the one touted as such a pure shooter but he could never do it in games?

I think this might be right but Sean Marks name keeps rolling around in my head as well. The Suns were high on him as well.

 

[leclerc]

How does Markannen measure up vs the langhi and Sean Marks?

 

[Mainstreet]

How does Markannen measure up vs the langhi and Sean Marks?

I believe Markkanen turns into at least a borderline star player. I'm not sure who to compare him too at the moment. I've heard Kristaps Porzingis mentioned pertaining to his ability to shoot the ball.