Coach Whisenhunt's Day After Press Conference LIVE @ 11am

[conraddobler]

Yeah I have the fear even if we did LUCK into a QBOF Whiz almost certainly will screw him up with his stupid mind games and not playing him, and or just not playing towards his strengths. I am afraid Whiz is no where near the coach we all thought he was or wanted him to be. This team has gotten away from him badly so much so I think one really has to legitimately wonder if he needs to go!

To save his job he has to send someone packing, several someone's.

I don't think it's completely hopeless for Whiz yet but it's getting worse by the day.

There is a point of no return where a coach so loses the team, you're done there, as in forever, you can't turn the roster over fast enough to get players who buy in to be in the majority.

So it dosen't matter if you can coach or not, all that matters is if your team thinks you can.

Whiz needs to wake the f up fast and see what kind of mess he's in and do something about it other than sail further into oblivion, that is if he wants to save his career here.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yep. I've been e-mailing Somers to call Whiz out on playcalling, personnel decisions, etc. I think he asked one benign question. We need more women in the press room.

Somers is the one who set Anderson off last night so he's probably a bit gun shy now.

 

[football karma]

Like the way Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy have been damaged. Joe Flacco damaged his way to an AFC championship game his rookie year.

are you really comparing multi year starters in the Big 12 -- guys who have played in Natl Champ importance type games ---to a guy who started at Fordham?

as for Flacco: he started not because he was ready, but because of injuries at QB. he also had a nice running game and great defense to lean on.

Anderson drives me just as crazy as the next guy -- but I really think people underestimate just how difficult playing QB in the NFL is. If Skelton doesnt know the offense well enough to play -- what is the point in putting him in?

 

[ajcardfan]

Somers is the one who set Anderson off last night so he's probably a bit gun shy now.

If he alienates Whisenhunt his access to information drops dramatically.

 

[NJCardFan]

3-and-15 conversion also hurt.

Has there been a time where we didn't allow a team to convert a 3rd and long?

 

[crisper57]

Has there been a time where we didn't allow a team to convert a 3rd and long?

Yeah, but to be fair, usually a receiver has to beat AW deep to convert an easy reception. This was a 15 yard rush. Crushing.

 

[conraddobler]

are you really comparing multi year starters in the Big 12 -- guys who have played in Natl Champ importance type games ---to a guy who started at Fordham?

as for Flacco: he started not because he was ready, but because of injuries at QB. he also had a nice running game and great defense to lean on.

Anderson drives me just as crazy as the next guy -- but I really think people underestimate just how difficult playing QB in the NFL is. If Skelton doesnt know the offense well enough to play -- what is the point in putting him in?

You didn't ask the right question IMO, what's the point of NOT putting him in?

You wouldn't put him in because you are afraid he sucks too and that would be strike three on your roster.

Once the season has gotten this far, it's time to experiment, alternate series, surprise the other team, just stick him out there, for one series, see how he does, adjust accordingly.

Tell him it's just real life game experience, have fun, learn, no worries, play the game.

If you can't do that on this team, when we suck so bad, then you suck as a HC, cause you are wasting an opportunity to teach.

Teach, teach, teach, and keep teaching, this is a chance to let a kid learn some things and judge how he responds without putting all the weight on his shoulders.

DA seems oblivious to what's done to him so start him, then work Max and Skelton in the game, with series at random, designed for them, just because, it's not that hard to think creatively about this and get something postitive out of this already crappy situation.

All you have to do is find someone more worthless than Skelton and make them inactive for a game, should be easy to do.

 

[ajcardfan]

Yeah, but to be fair, usually a receiver has to beat AW deep to convert an easy reception. This was a 15 yard rush. Crushing.

Not only that, the hole looked to be literally four yards wide. It was ridiculous.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

You didn't ask the right question IMO, what's the point of NOT putting him in?

You wouldn't put him in because you are afraid he sucks too and that would be strike three on your roster.

Once the season has gotten this far, it's time to experiment, alternate series, surprise the other team, just stick him out there, for one series, see how he does, adjust accordingly.

Tell him it's just real life game experience, have fun, learn, no worries, play the game.

If you can't do that on this team, when we suck so bad, then you suck as a HC, cause you are wasting an opportunity to teach.

Teach, teach, teach, and keep teaching, this is a chance to let a kid learn some things and judge how he responds without putting all the weight on his shoulders.

DA seems oblivious to what's done to him so start him, then work Max and Skelton in the game, with series at random, designed for them, just because, it's not that hard to think creatively about this and get something postitive out of this already crappy situation.

All you have to do is find someone more worthless than Skelton and make them inactive for a game, should be easy to do.

After this amazing post, I want YOU as head coach of this team. Flawless perspective. Love it....

 

[JC_AZ]

Has there been a time where we didn't allow a team to convert a 3rd and long?

We always joke in our section that teams purposely take the penalty or fall down to get to third and long to get us "right where they want us"...never fails, no matter the players, the coach, the season...3rd and long has been the Cards nemesis since moving to AZ

 

[Cheesebeef]

Never seen so many people (including myself) hanging on every word the man says on one of his pressers than ever before; yet I dont think there's a single thing he could have said that would make all of us happy.

he could have said Derek Anderson will never see the field again and we're going to evaluate who else we have.

Continuing to start DA makes no sense from a football standpoint, a leadership standpoint, a we're going to win now standpoint, we're going to evaluate the future standpoint... nothing. NOTHING.

I can't believe Wiz is being like this. I've supported him vociferously in the past, but I'm done. Will I be furious if he's not fired this year? No. But his leash is about a millimeter short next year.

Unfreakingbelievable. "He gives us the best chance to win". Well... WHO'S FAULT IS THAT WIZ?!

 

[PACardsFan]

I honestly think Whiz wants out of AZ. There can be no other explanation for his stubborn stupidity.

 

[TJ]

I honestly think Whiz wants out of AZ. There can be no other explanation for his stubborn stupidity.

Not sure that is the case. He signed a big extension over the offseason, even after all of the departures. Whis looks like he dug himself a big hole and cant figure out how to get out of it.

 

[Indiana Hoosier]

Same old, same old with our coach!

 

[Linderbee]

We always joke in our section that teams purposely take the penalty or fall down to get to third and long to get us "right where they want us"...never fails, no matter the players, the coach, the season...3rd and long has been the Cards nemesis since moving to AZ

I was saying the same thing last night, and I've said it all along. I'd MUCH rather we have to defend 3rd & short. It's freaking ridiculous.

 

[ajcardfan]

I honestly think Whiz wants out of AZ. There can be no other explanation for his stubborn stupidity.

After signing an extension? That would be stupid.

 

[oaken1]

After signing an extension? That would be stupid.

why?? If they fire him, they have to pay out all of his contract as long as he stays out of coaching......so he could go work in a booth calling games, get whatever abc pays him,...and still be collecting his salary from the team....just like Gruden is doing.
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[freebyrd]

Anderson remains the starter.

thats it for me, i am out for the year and i have lost any respect for whiz that i had, the dude must have had a stroke or something

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It sholdn't surprise anyone that Scud remains the starter. Max Hall can't play in the league either and was so bad he made moving back to Anderson a necessity. Skelton obviously isn't ready. Whiz did kind of hint that Skelton may get some time later this year. A 3rd string QB sees no reps all week. I can't stand DA either but Skelton hasn't even moved past the abomination that is Max Hall into the #2 spot.

 

[Mulli]

It sholdn't surprise anyone that Scud remains the starter. Max Hall can't play in the league either and was so bad he made moving back to Anderson a necessity. Skelton obviously isn't ready. Whiz did kind of hint that Skelton may get some time later this year. A 3rd string QB sees no reps all week. I can't stand DA either but Skelton hasn't even moved past the abomination that is Max Hall into the #2 spot.

Yep.

 

[football karma]

You didn't ask the right question IMO, what's the point of NOT putting him in?

You wouldn't put him in because you are afraid he sucks too and that would be strike three on your roster.

Once the season has gotten this far, it's time to experiment, alternate series, surprise the other team, just stick him out there, for one series, see how he does, adjust accordingly.

Tell him it's just real life game experience, have fun, learn, no worries, play the game.

If you can't do that on this team, when we suck so bad, then you suck as a HC, cause you are wasting an opportunity to teach.

Teach, teach, teach, and keep teaching, this is a chance to let a kid learn some things and judge how he responds without putting all the weight on his shoulders.

DA seems oblivious to what's done to him so start him, then work Max and Skelton in the game, with series at random, designed for them, just because, it's not that hard to think creatively about this and get something postitive out of this already crappy situation.

All you have to do is find someone more worthless than Skelton and make them inactive for a game, should be easy to do.

if Skelton doesnt know the offense enough to function -- what do you learn by having him in there? Is he bad because he cant play, or is he bad because he is bad? I am not sure you could tell.

Only two qBs can play in a game -- the minute your third qb goes in, he stays in for the remainder. There is also the question of practice time. There are only reps for 1.5 qbs during the week.

So while I share your frustration with DA, I just think it would be pointless to try to play a guy who is a long way from being ready.

 

[freebyrd]

if Skelton doesnt know the offense enough to function -- what do you learn by having him in there? Is he bad because he cant play, or is he bad because he is bad? I am not sure you could tell.

Only two qBs can play in a game -- the minute your third qb goes in, he stays in for the remainder. There is also the question of practice time. There are only reps for 1.5 qbs during the week.

So while I share your frustration with DA, I just think it would be pointless to try to play a guy who is a long way from being ready.

just to play devils advocate the only reason i see for playing anderson at this point is your playing for the first pick in the draft, i honestly don't see any other reason to even try and win again this year, so if hall and skelton are truly that bad than throw them in there to insure we don't win, or maybe they have a little spark and they might screw up and actually win a couple thus screwing up our draft position,
in this case starting anderson makes perfect sense, honestly this whole situation has discombobulated me so much, i don't know whether i'm coming or going
i have never been so frustrated as a fan which is saying a lot, maybe our last couple of years of success has made this disaster even more painful than usual, i don't know

 

[conraddobler]

if Skelton doesnt know the offense enough to function -- what do you learn by having him in there? Is he bad because he cant play, or is he bad because he is bad? I am not sure you could tell.

Only two qBs can play in a game -- the minute your third qb goes in, he stays in for the remainder. There is also the question of practice time. There are only reps for 1.5 qbs during the week.

So while I share your frustration with DA, I just think it would be pointless to try to play a guy who is a long way from being ready.

All three QB's can play, it's only when the emergency QB spot is used that the rule you quoted is enforced.

That's why I said you'd have to carry one less active roster player into the game, by making Skelton the emergency QB and following the rules you laid down, then he does not take up one regular roster spot.

So if you deactivate one roster player he can play anytime and as much as you want him to.

As to practice time, we're only talking about scripting one or two series at most, it wouldn't take that many reps to work him out on that script.

We're talking about a scripted series, it's not that hard, he's going to know what play is next, he's going to have practiced it instead of opening up the playbook and having to know every play he has to focus on only a set of them at a time.

 

[Bobcat]

Whiz on playing Skelton: "It's tough. You run the risk of damaging a young guy." Adds he doesn't anticipate Skelton this year barring injury

This is pure BS. You draft the guy, but play the Undrafted Free Agent. Whiz get a clue you cannot judge talent.

During pre-game warm-ups just watch what QB looks more natural throwing the football. It is Skelton not Max or DA. I know some of you think that warm-ups mean nothing to you, but he really does have all of the intangibles. Really the Kid does.

The only problem is that our head coach doesn't have a clue. I want Haily back and a new O.C. and D.C.

 

[Duckjake]

if Skelton doesnt know the offense enough to function -- what do you learn by having him in there? Is he bad because he cant play, or is he bad because he is bad? I am not sure you could tell.

Only two qBs can play in a game -- the minute your third qb goes in, he stays in for the remainder. There is also the question of practice time. There are only reps for 1.5 qbs during the week.

So while I share your frustration with DA, I just think it would be pointless to try to play a guy who is a long way from being ready.

If the guy was such a project what in the heck were the Cards doing trading up to draft him? Why didn't they wait and try and get him as an UDFA because if he's so bad who cares if another team gets him. When did NFL teams start drafting guys for 5 years down the road?

I do not believe at all in "watching and learning", the only time my QBOF sits on the bench when I have Jack in front of him is if I have a horrendous offensive line. Now that is a legitimate reason to not play Skelton. Not because he isn't ready but because I'd like to have him healthy for 2011.