Coach Whiz: Leinart to start vs Steelers!

[slanidrac16]

Remember this. If you start Leinart, we still have Warner to come off the bench. Leinart didn't suddenly go stupid. I just think he suffers from not wanting to make mistakes and sticking with his primary receiver WAY to long.
Warner knows BEFORE the ball is even snapped that his primary receiver is not the guy to go to.
Cmon guys. Did we think that Leinart wouldn't go thru some growing pains? Give Leinart the start and take it from there. If we go the other way how will we feel if Warner goes down?
Whiz knows what he's doing. He's not going to let the ship sink because he's worried Leinarts feelings.

 

[Matt L]

Horrible, horrible coaching decision. Horrendous. The problem is that the Hollywood hotshot apparently failed to work hard enough in the offseason. You cannot make that preparation up during the regular season. During the season, you must be focused on your opponent and the new packages you're putting in. You cannot be worried about learning the initial offense. This kid needs benched for one because he needs all the time he can get actually learning the offense, and for two because he gives us almost no chance to win against Pittsburgh. The offense completely turned on with Warner at the helm; he needs to stay there until that punk is actually ready.

Sorry for the Leinart hate, but it really, REALLY pisses me off that he didn't take this all seriously enough. It makes me fighting mad. It's the kind of a thing that a spoiled brat would do. He now needs to step up, apologize to his team for one, and get himself right.

Wow, that was really harsh. Do you have some sort of insight or are you a member of the team? I am sure that if needed, Leinart could probably run a no huddle, two minute offense. In fact, I have seen him run a two minute offense before. For some reason, it appears that whisenhunt feels that Kurt is more effective in a no huddle offense then Leinart, and by the looks of it, he actually is.

I do really think that part of the reason why Kurt was so effective was because of the two minute offense. I don't know if Warner would put this type of production up if they weren't in no-huddle, in fact, I would be willing to doubt that he would. I think that you guys are really overreacting on Leinart. Like it or not, he's gonna be here for the next three years. I would hope that we could at least let him start 32 games before we decide that he is a punk.

 

[8ndkorner]

Wow, that was really harsh. Do you have some sort of insight or are you a member of the team? I am sure that if needed, Leinart could probably run a no huddle, two minute offense. In fact, I have seen him run a two minute offense before. For some reason, it appears that whisenhunt feels that Kurt is more effective in a no huddle offense then Leinart, and by the looks of it, he actually is.

I do really think that part of the reason why Kurt was so effective was because of the two minute offense. I don't know if Warner would put this type of production up if they weren't in no-huddle, in fact, I would be willing to doubt that he would. I think that you guys are really overreacting on Leinart. Like it or not, he's gonna be here for the next three years. I would hope that we could at least let him start 32 games before we decide that he is a punk.

From what I've seen so far this season Coach does not care about where you were drafted or what your salary is. If you aren't producing sit down. How can you argue with the switch today. He's slowly sending a strong message to ML. I can't beleive he had to dumb down the playbook and put the loss on himself after game 1. ML is the future and he's the franchise, he needs to act like it and prepare. I also heard it's his send offense he's learning in 2 years. So was last year but he seemed ready. Matt seems to have let all of the hoopla go to his head. Whis has the cure for that. Pull him out when he stinks it up. On national TV. He can do it for one reason. He has a supper QB waiting to come in.
We need to get into Matt's head now.

 

[8ndkorner]

From what I've seen so far this season Coach does not care about where you were drafted or what your salary is. If you aren't producing sit down. How can you argue with the switch today. He's slowly sending a strong message to ML. I can't beleive he had to dumb down the playbook and put the loss on himself after game 1. ML is the future and he's the franchise, he needs to act like it and prepare. I also heard it's his send offense he's learning in 2 years. So was last year but he seemed ready. Matt seems to have let all of the hoopla go to his head. Whis has the cure for that. Pull him out when he stinks it up. On national TV. He can do it for one reason. He has a supper QB waiting to come in.
We need to get into Matt's head now.

Of course I meant second. I was on the phone with my bride.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

From what I've seen so far this season Coach does not care about where you were drafted or what your salary is. If you aren't producing sit down. How can you argue with the switch today. He's slowly sending a strong message to ML. I can't beleive he had to dumb down the playbook and put the loss on himself after game 1. ML is the future and he's the franchise, he needs to act like it and prepare. I also heard it's his send offense he's learning in 2 years. So was last year but he seemed ready. Matt seems to have let all of the hoopla go to his head. Whis has the cure for that. Pull him out when he stinks it up. On national TV. He can do it for one reason. He has a supper QB waiting to come in.
We need to get into Matt's head now.

i agree totally. Maybe this will light a fire under Matt's butt and get him going. I think it's right going back to Leinart.He's your starter. But now he knows that he'll get his ass yanked if he's not performing. This was an excellent coaching move by Whiz.

 

[jmt]

You guys who want to start Warner are lame. He is not the future of this franchise. Leinart doesn't even have a season under his belt and he is being crucified for being "Hollywood". Pure conjecture. Chill out Stout.

 

[blindseyed]

Why not just do what they did yesterday? The Ravens didn't game plan at all for Kurt, The Ravens D is pretty tough (Whis knows) and he seemed to know what to do.
I don't understand bashing Matt for being lazy and all that cuz of his commercials when he was at the Tempe facility every time it was open in the off season. He's gettin a dose of reality right now, he'll sink or swim, gotta let him do it.

 

[Stout]

Thats a little harsh don't you think? Maybe the difference just might be experience, Kurt has it, Leinart is trying to aquire it.

Kurt's experience helps a lot, but Leinart could easily have offset some of that with a ton of dedication in the offseason. I shrugged off the little, intermittent reports that he wasn't going crazy in preparation during the offseason, but now I believe them fully.

 

[Stout]

Wow, that was really harsh. Do you have some sort of insight or are you a member of the team? I am sure that if needed, Leinart could probably run a no huddle, two minute offense. In fact, I have seen him run a two minute offense before. For some reason, it appears that whisenhunt feels that Kurt is more effective in a no huddle offense then Leinart, and by the looks of it, he actually is.

I do really think that part of the reason why Kurt was so effective was because of the two minute offense. I don't know if Warner would put this type of production up if they weren't in no-huddle, in fact, I would be willing to doubt that he would. I think that you guys are really overreacting on Leinart. Like it or not, he's gonna be here for the next three years. I would hope that we could at least let him start 32 games before we decide that he is a punk.

Wow, really? Hollywood cannot run an OFFENSE as of right now, let alone a two minute offense. Right now, he is not ready to play. He needs to sit so that we have a better chance to win, and just as important, he has a chance to work on what he needs to improve.

 

[JC_AZ]

You guys who want to start Warner are lame. He is not the future of this franchise. Leinart doesn't even have a season under his belt and he is being crucified for being "Hollywood". Pure conjecture. Chill out Stout.

We have been talking about the future of this franchise forever, and the guys that are producing (AW, Q, Edge, the O-Line, Dansby, etc.) are going to get pretty sick of the nurturing of ML's ego...he is not ready and KW proved that.. same line, same D to face (just like in preseason) and KW produces...let ML learn by watching and working in the hurry up in PRACTICE... maybe he will get better wihout costing the rest of the team the 2007 season because of his errors and lack of judgement.

 

[Feeble Mcjackson]

I think its hilarious that the same people who wanted warner benched last year in faovr of Leinart now want warner thrown into the starting line up!

 

[cardsfanmd]

Leinart doesn't seem he has that fast zip on the ball. Which Warner seems throw with velocity. Is Leinart hurt or he never has/had that velocity since college???

Leinart was a pitcher, and a very good one in HS, but he threw his arm out. I said it before we drafted him, last year and this year. I have NEVER seen him throw a ball harder than I can (my arm is far from special), so hope he can master the mental part of th game very good and get great timing with his guys. It is really tough to complete slant passes (a great route for Fitz and Q) when your QB has to put loft on anything longer than 15 yds.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Wow, really? Hollywood cannot run an OFFENSE as of right now, let alone a two minute offense. Right now, he is not ready to play. He needs to sit so that we have a better chance to win, and just as important, he has a chance to work on what he needs to improve.

100% with you.

 

[AZCardsWin]

Leinart doesn't seem he has that fast zip on the ball. Which Warner seems throw with velocity. Is Leinart hurt or he never has/had that velocity since college???

Im sure later in the season we will hear some reason why Matt's passes seem to lack that zip that they had last year.

~Tim

 

[Gambit]

Im sure later in the season we will hear some reason why Matt's passes seem to lack that zip that they had last year.

~Tim

Apparently Matt worked closely with Drew Brees in the offseason.

 

[Shane]

Apparently Matt worked closely with Drew Brees in the offseason.

 

[AZCardsWin]

Apparently Matt worked closely with Drew Brees in the offseason.

Meaning Kurt worked with Peyton???

 

[john h]

Good move WHIS! No Brainer here. Keep Matt in there, stay in his ear until he gets it period. Hopefully seeing how Kurt went about his business today, will motivate Matt to put in the extra time to learn and use the No-Huddle the way Kurt did today. Matts still early into the offense, regardless of whether you want him to be Peyton Manning or not, he's just NOT, maybe someday he can be a top 10 QB in the NFL, but lets not pull the carpet out from under his feet just yet, show patience.

I'd much rather see Matt struggle a few games and get better via experience, than see Kurt play a game or 2, get hurt and then you bring back in Matt with his bruised confidence, and lack of reps in practice the last 2 weeks.

I'm here for the long haul, I prefer to see Matt climb out of this hole, than to waste any more time on Warner. He had one good half folks, lets not CROWN HIM! Warner is the backup!

Doesn't matter which team it is, but the most popular player in the building is the backup QB, evidence by the threads today.

I do not want to give up on the season three games into it in order to give Matt experience. Play Kurt until and if he loses a couple and then go with Matt. Are we forever doomed to be training QB's at the expense of trying to win now. There are a lot of players on this team besides Matt who want to win today. Their livelihood depend on it and they want the guy at QB to be the best one to give them a chance to win "Today". The future is now. I have been playing this "wait until next year" with the Cubs and Cardinals for over 60 years. Soon enough you will discover there is no next year for you. I hope the coach is coaching from his head and not from his heart in this situation or not being pressured from above. Why do you even have a backup? Just in case your guy is injured? Many teams will bring in a new QB when the one on the field is stinking it up.

 

[john h]

Thats a little harsh don't you think? Maybe the difference just might be experience, Kurt has it, Leinart is trying to aquire it.

as Boldin said Matt is going to be a top ten or very good? QB. Warner is a superbowl QB. That speaks for itself and lets you know what the receiver really thinks and he is down on the field doing where it happens. I seriously doubt Matt has that much team support now and especially now that they saw what Warner could do with the same team on the field. Among the players it is very likely they are asking the same ones we are asking on the board. I have not seen any rush to praise Leinhart from the players.

 

[Gambit]

I do not want to give up on the season three games into it in order to give Matt experience. Play Kurt until and if he loses a couple and then go with Matt. Are we forever doomed to be training QB's at the expense of trying to win now. There are a lot of players on this team besides Matt who want to win today. Their livelihood depend on it and they want the guy at QB to be the best one to give them a chance to win "Today". The future is now. I have been playing this "wait until next year" with the Cubs and Cardinals for over 60 years. Soon enough you will discover there is no next year for you. I hope the coach is coaching from his head and not from his heart in this situation or not being pressured from above. Why do you even have a backup? Just in case your guy is injured? Many teams will bring in a new QB when the one on the field is stinking it up.

I look at it thusly: I don't want to give up on Matt three games into the season.

 

[john h]

You guys who want to start Warner are lame. He is not the future of this franchise. Leinart doesn't even have a season under his belt and he is being crucified for being "Hollywood". Pure conjecture. Chill out Stout.

We seem to always be worrying about the future. We need to start one season worrying about the season we are playing in. We wasted 5 years with our last QB worrying about his future. I do not think anyone wants to give up on Leinhart. We just want to use him judiciously and at the right time for both him and the team. The team always comes first.