Coach's Film Breakdown: Kolb's Drive

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Nicely done K9! I love it. Can't wait to see more of these. I especially liked that you included detail about what was happening on the OL.

One question, when you said "Six-man rush with a delayed SS blitz".

Did you mean that Seattle brought 7 or was the SS part of the six man rush?

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K9, I would like for you to look at a few plays where Floyd was in the game and break down his separation and whether he was open and missed or just couldn't get open. At the stadium he looked open, but he was either not looked at or the pass went to another option before he came up in the progression.

Then I'd love to see the breakdown of the red zone plays in the first quarter which ended with a FG, one of the plays was when john tried the shovel pass. On two of those, it looked like Larry had single coverage, then we motioned a WR to his side and never tried the fade. Specifically on the shovel pass, was that the best option and should john have just tried to run it in instead?

Then give me the damn film so I can geek out and never leave my house. /greeneyedmonster
 
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What does not ready for Kolb mean though? Do you mean they were in a scheme devised to confuse Skelton and it didn't confuse Kolb, or had Kolb started they would have been in a totally different defense at that point?

It seemed to me the change in the 2nd half was they came after Skelton while doubling Fitz and just dared him to beat them downfield with someone other than Fitz.

If they continue to bring pressure against Kolb that's supposed to be his kryptonite.

What I saw was a QB that read the defense pre snap, figured out where single coverage was going to be and went there. That's the comment I made on Skelton, considering Seattle appeared to be blitzing often in the 2nd half it was surprising how many times he threw into double coverage. To me that's a clear sign he didn't understand the defense and didn't know where the single coverage was. He had some dumpoffs too but those were basically bailouts when he stared down the primary guy who was likely doubled.

I don't expect Kolb to look that good Sunday NE has a week to scheme up how to abuse our tackles and as others have pointed out including you, the interior OL's weren't much better.

If I'm whiz I spend the week working on blitz pickups, max protect, and how to beat the blitz by getting the ball out quickly. It's why I hope Housler is healthy enough to play more, having a TE with speed can be a huge advantage against a blitz.

"Not ready for Kolb" means that they either didn't practice (and so didn't have ready) pressure packages in case Kolb came into the game, or decided that what they were doing with Skelton (perhaps--I haven't looked at any of Skelton's snaps) was going to work with Kolb. Two blitzes in a dozen plays, and a lot of cover-2 and cover-3 looks is easy money with a guy like Kolb, IMO.

Honestly, there wasn't any double-coverage on this drive. None. Off-man with a safety very deep or two-deep coverage. It wasn't really finding the guy single-covered, because everyone was single-covered. It was a lot of short passes and medium YAC yardage against a very soft zone.

I completely disagree with you on the game plan for the Pats. They should be working on multiple WR sets on three- and five-step drops all week. I wouldn't even bother putting in running plays, or focusing on them in the game plan. I said it in another thread, but Kolb should throw the ball 45+ times in the Pats game.

I was and am more confident in Kolb's ability to beat the Pats than I am/was with Skelton.

And you couldn't be more wrong about a TE with speed being a big help against blitzes. TEs like Finley, Gates, Gronkowski, Hernandez, and Graham are great helps against Tampa-2 defenses, that blitz very little. That pressure down the middle of the field is supposed to free up single-coverage on your ourside receivers. Against a pressure defense, the TE probably can't get deep before the QB needs to dump the ball off, even a fast TE. There will be holes in zones or guys single-covered if the opposing defense is blitzing.
 
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Nicely done K9! I love it. Can't wait to see more of these. I especially liked that you included detail about what was happening on the OL.

One question, when you said "Six-man rush with a delayed SS blitz".

Did you mean that Seattle brought 7 or was the SS part of the six man rush?

Thanks

Seattle brought 6 including the strong safety. The MLB went through the A gap, and then the Safety blitzed the same gap two moments later. The safety came from very deep in the secondary.
 

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K9, will the coaches film allow you to isolate on Michael Floyd?

And I am glad you don't want the Cards to try for three yards and a cloud of dust vs. the Patriots. :)
 

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Very well done - I'm going to share this with the seahawks board - most of us were puzzled with what Gus was dialing up (or not dialing up as the case may be)

I think these ugly slop fests may be the new norm for our teams meeting up (not that the games in the past were necessarily pretty)

Good win by the cardinals - they executed when it mattered and won the game
 
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K9, I would like for you to look at a few plays where Floyd was in the game and break down his separation and whether he was open and missed or just couldn't get open. At the stadium he looked open, but he was either not looked at or the pass went to another option before he came up in the progression.

Then I'd love to see the breakdown of the red zone plays in the first quarter which ended with a FG, one of the plays was when john tried the shovel pass. On two of those, it looked like Larry had single coverage, then we motioned a WR to his side and never tried the fade. Specifically on the shovel pass, was that the best option and should john have just tried to run it in instead?

Then give me the damn film so I can geek out and never leave my house. /greeneyedmonster

I honestly don't know the plays where Floyd is in the game. If I see some, then I'll note where they are. If you have some memory, I'll look at them specifically.

As for the third quarter FG drive following the Russell Wilson fumble--I think this is the series you're talking about:

Arizona Cardinals at 11:03
1-10-SEA 17 (11:03) 34-R.Williams up the middle to SEA 18 for -1 yards (54-B.Wagner; 79-R.Bryant).

21 personnel group with Sherman offset to the right side, where Fitz is split out.
Defense aligned in 4-3 base with an OLB rotated outside the LDE. Two deep safeties and corners in press technique.
Andre Roberts motions next to the LT.
Jeff King completely gets manhandled one-on-one with the DE and the rush gets blown up. Red Bryant caused the disruption, but Batiste didn't impede the progress of the OLB at all, and he cleaned up the play.

2-11-SEA 18 (10:21) 19-J.Skelton pass incomplete short right to 11-L.Fitzgerald (31-K.Chancellor).

Same personnel group, this time with Sherman offset left and the TE on the right side of the line.
Seattle has 8 men in the box, one safety deep and the corners are in press technique.
King motions right to left and lines up next to Batiste.
Four man rush.
Sherman runs into the left flat, King runs a five yard out, Roberts has a hard time beating the press and seems to be running a 9 route, and Fitz runs a skinny post.
Seattle's in man coverage with one safety deep and the ROLB playing "robber" in the middle of the field.
The pocket seems okay. No one's getting beaten, but there's a lot of garbage around Skelton's feet.
Fitz's man bails on the press at the last second, but Fitz gets inside leverage.
Skelton throws the pass low and inside, between the zone OLB and the corner outside Fitz. Only Fitz is going to get the ball.
Sherman is more or less open as an outlet route, but he's four yards deep in the middle of the field.

3-11-SEA 18 (10:15) (Shotgun) 19-J.Skelton pass deep right intended for 11-L.Fitzgerald INTERCEPTED by 31-K.Chancellor at SEA 0. Touchback. PENALTY on SEA-23-M.Trufant, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at SEA 18 - No Play.

11 personnel with Doucet and Fitz on the right side, Roberts split wide left, and Heap on a short split from Batiste. Sherman is on Skelton's right side.
Defense shows three down linemen, two linebackers, seven defensive backs. Two safeties deep, outside corners playing press technique, two corners man aligned, and a third safety(?) looking like he's going to play "robber' on the left side of the offense.
Doucet motions to the left side of the offense and is completely uncovered at the snap of the ball.
Defense has seven men in the box. Lots of movement on the interior of the defense.
Five-man rush, Massie has no chance on the right side. Just got embarrassed by Bruce Irvins' speed there.
Skelton steps up in the pocket after taking a three-step drop from shotgun(?!) and finds a little space.
Fitz can't get off the press, and one of the deep safeties is rotating over to him.
Seattle's playing zone in the middle and man on the outside.
Fitz seems to be running that post again. Doucet is open, but it's not close to a first down and there are Seahawks all over the middle of the field. Heap clears the space for Doucet.
Skelton knows he has a free play and presses the ball to Fitz. Throw is high, meaningless INT. Skelton threw off his back foot.


3-6-SEA 13 (10:08) (Shotgun) 19-J.Skelton pass incomplete short right to 12-A.Roberts.

01 personnel with Fitz on a near split on the right side, with Heap split next to Massie. Floyd split wide on the left with Doucet in the left slot. Roberts is line up as the running back.
Seattle's showing heavy blitz. There are six defenders on the line of scrimmage.
Secondary shows three-deep look. Fitz is looking at off-man coverage, two safeties are deep, and Floyd's's man is playing press technique. Doucet's man is three yards off the LOS, and Heap is uncovered.
Seven man rush.
At the snap, Floyd's man bails on the press. Floyd runs a short in, Doucet runs an inside slant. Heap runs a vertical route. Fitz runs a fade, and Roberts runs an outlet route to the right flat.
Seattle's secondary plays a soft zone, but two defenders are stacked above Fitz.
Skelton's under heavy pressure. Floyd is open on his in route, although Skelton would be leading him in to Doucet's defender. It'd be a tight throw to Heap.
Skelton throws the outlet to Roberts. Ball's batted at the line because Massie's back-kick is too deep. Ugly play.

4-6-SEA 13 (10:03) 3-J.Feely 31 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-82-M.Leach, Holder-9-D.Zastudil.
 

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Good stuff! Agree on not wasting much time trying to run on the Pats. Our offensive line is nowhere near good enough to make that worthwhile.
 

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K9, thank you - that is incredible breakdown info (and ugh, too, at the result).

Actually, I was hoping you would look at this series:

1-10-SEA 16 (2:53) 34-R.Williams right tackle to SEA 14 for 2 yards (31-K.Chancellor, 50-K.Wright).

2-8-SEA 14 (2:13) (Shotgun) 19-J.Skelton pass short left to 34-R.Williams to SEA 2 for 12 yards (23-M.Trufant, 39-B.Browner).

1-2-SEA 2 (1:32) 34-R.Williams up the middle to SEA 3 for -1 yards (69-C.McDonald).

2-3-SEA 3 :)49) 19-J.Skelton pass incomplete short middle to 11-L.Fitzgerald (92-B.Mebane).

3-3-SEA 3 :)45) (Shotgun) 19-J.Skelton pass incomplete short left to 34-R.Williams.

4-3-SEA 3 :)38) 3-J.Feely 21 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-82-M.Leach, Holder-9-D.Zastudil.

That's the first quarter field goal where we absolutely sucked inside the 5. Trying to get a bead on why we are consistently bad at scoring when knocking on the door.
 

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The most surprising thing I've seen from watching the All-22 from the Seattle game are all the empty seats.

Between each play they show a shot of the stadium with the clock. Almost entire sections in that area were empty. Must be heavy scalper areas.
 

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The most surprising thing I've seen from watching the All-22 from the Seattle game are all the empty seats.

Between each play they show a shot of the stadium with the clock. Almost entire sections in that area were empty. Must be heavy scalper areas.

Sitting on the upper deck on the home side, I can look across the field to tons of empty seats on the visitors side. And, of course, the Club Level seats are pretty much abandoned over there too.
 

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