Colangelo placed a phone call on Bell

[az1965]

As per 620 AM post game show, Jerry Colangelo was asked if he is going to do anything about it and he said he has already placed a call to the NBA office and is waiting for a return call.

JC said that the league should not look at that particular play in isolation and it will be unfair if that happens. They have to see what has been going on this entire series and before that foul.

Let's see if JC's influence makes any impact.

 

[D-Dogg]

It shouldn't. Bell should have kept his cool, or if he wanted a fight to take it to "the parking lot" or the "octagon" whichever floats his anger managment issues boat.

 

[green machine]

It shouldn't. Bell should have kept his cool, or if he wanted a fight to take it to "the parking lot" or the "octagon" whichever floats his anger managment issues boat.

Kobe is not exactly a choir boy, or at least, I remember him giving Mike Miller a nice cheap shot....

Raja deserves a suspension, but given the context of the series, I don't know if it would be right.

 

[D-Dogg]

Kobe is not exactly a choir boy, or at least, I remember him giving Mike Miller a nice cheap shot....

Raja deserves a suspension, but given the context of the series, I don't know if it would be right.

Yep, and Kobe caught a two game suspension because the league said it won't tolerate anything above the shoulders.

Kobe's was well warranted. Raja's will be as well.

 

[green machine]

Yep, and Kobe caught a two game suspension because the league said it won't tolerate anything above the shoulders.

Kobe's was well warranted. Raja's will be as well.

In any other situation I'd agree....Raja did not do a smart thing, and he deserves to be punished...but I just can't get over the fact that this has been a physical series, where acts that can be construed as intentional and unnecessary have occured and gone without reprocussion, and although this one is deserving, it just seems to scream "double standard".

Either way, I wouldn't want to be the one making the decision.

 

[D-Dogg]

Either way, I wouldn't want to be the one making the decision.

I wouldn't want to be Stu Jackson to begin with

 

[green machine]

I wouldn't want to be Stu Jackson to begin with

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Bell definitely needs to be suspended for game 6. What he did was inexcusable. However, I hope the league looks a couple of the other shots Raja took from Kobe this game, and at least asseses a technical or flagrant for those hits.

 

[D-Dogg]

Bell definitely needs to be suspended for game 6. What he did was inexcusable. However, I hope the league looks a couple of the other shots Raja took from Kobe this game, and at least asseses a technical or flagrant for those hits.

From the other thread:

He could catch one for the elbow to the face...though not intentional it did hit his face.

Barkley was very wrong on the post game show when he said that Bell wasn't hit with that one..he was, grazed most likely, but definitely hit.

Bell did flop on the other play they showed that Barkley called a flop. These two guys are far two testy. I wish they knew how to quit each other.

 

[D-Dogg]

I'll also take back that Kobe elbowed Raja in the face...that did not happen. I watched it a few times and it wasn't there. Great flop by Bell.

Bell, however, is grabbing Kobe's waist on every post up like he wants to dance with him.

 

[jandaman]

Raja will get suspended, its about 97% chance he will.. very likely.

But hopefully, this gets the Suns fired up... If Bell plays, the Lakers will be fired up and going back to the Staples... the crowd will just let him have it.

I expect Nash to step up in the scoring department, probably a 30 point game. Marion has regained his season form the last 2 games.. he's back.

And Diaw?.. well he is the key, Marion and Nash will get theres, but Diaw needs to be a factor.

The Lakers will come out strong, Suns need to play like Game 5, intense but concentrated, like they are playing in a Game 7... which is pretty much what Game 6 would be for them.

 

[Joe Mama]

I applaud the Phoenix Suns efforts, but this one is a no-brainer. It doesn't matter what's happened the rest of the series. Bell is getting suspended for at least one game, and it's the right thing.

It's one thing to blame that Game 4 loss on the referees. I think there are some legitimate gripes there even if some people do seem to be going overboard with with it IMO. However, arguing that Bell should not be suspended a bit ridiculous, and we all know that if it was the other way around we would be calling for Kobe Bryant's suspension.

If by some miracle he isn't suspended... I'm not even going to bother. He is going to get suspended.

Joe

 

[gdiddy]

You guys are ridiculous. This has been a physical series fromt he series and it's the LAKERS that have set that tone, not the Suns. Some of you forget how Boris Diaw got assessed the technical foul after TT got the clothesline, when in fact it should have been Kobe for pushing Boris in the back and creating a domino effect of falling players. When you're a superstar you can get away with a lot.

Say what you want to say. I don't think Raja should be suspended. Maybe slapped with a stiff fine, but after all we've seen between those two during the series, let alone the behavior from punks like Kwame and Walton, I think a suspension would reflect the outright hypocrisy of the NBA in light of all the stuff that's been happening in these series.

Stop being apologists Suns fans. The Lakers got a taste of their own medicine.

 

[D-Dogg]

Say what you want to say. I don't think Raja should be suspended. Maybe slapped with a stiff fine, but after all we've seen between those two during the series, let alone the behavior from punks like Kwame and Walton, I think a suspension would reflect the outright hypocrisy of the NBA in light of all the stuff that's been happening in these series.

Stop being apologists Suns fans. The Lakers got a taste of their own medicine.

So, you are saying that if Kobe had done the exact same thing to Raja, you wouldn't be calling for his head?

Seriously?

Come on dude...take off the myopia shades and get with the real world. That crap is uncalled for.

Raja's going to taste his own medicine, and it tastes like Phoenix weather on a Thursday night...and maybe more.

 

[scotsman13]

personally i have no problem with the nba giving bell a suspension but the nba should look at how this has all started this year and how the lakers started this match up and the fouls the lakers have gotten away with so far. in the first match up of the year kobe elbowed bell in the face and giving him a couple stiches. what did kobe get for that? oh i think it was a foul on "the greatest player ever". personally kobe has gotten off to easy all year long.

 

[mathbzh]

Bell deserves a suspension. If Artest had the same foul, nobody would discuss if he should be out for a game.
That said, Bell is not the only one to deserve it.

 

[sundevilscott]

The only thing I wonder is what is the difference between Raja's foul and the exact same foul that Walton did in Game 2(I think it was game 2)?

It was a flying intentional throw down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4FJWp_9tWA&search=Luke%20Walton%20Foul

 

[nathan]

The only thing I wonder is what is the difference between Raja's foul and the exact same foul that Walton did in Game 2(I think it was game 2)?

It was a flying intentional throw down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4FJWp_9tWA&search=Luke%20Walton%20Foul

I don't think Walton meant to do that (he is not a bad guy), but what he did was the basketball equivalent of driving 100 mph in a residential area. Do that enough time and you are going to kill somebody. Luckily Tim Thomas wasn't hurt. Kobe Bryant was never in danger of any real injury in the recent incident.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Walton was assesed a flagrant foul for that act as well, could have been suspended but was not. That act put TT in more danger than Raja wrestling Kobe down. Kobe did a lot of acting on that call as well.

All of that being said - Raja needs to sit out the next game. The Real Question is - will they continue to call in correct in the post? Kwame and Lamar got in some foul trouble with their pushes and shoves early last night - will that continue? If it does, Raja can sit, and we will still be able to win - it helps free up Marion and Boris with those two on the Bench... and frees up a shooter when others rotate to help.

 

[JS22]

It shouldn't. Bell should have kept his cool, or if he wanted a fight to take it to "the parking lot" or the "octagon" whichever floats his anger managment issues boat.

Did you happen to see any of the series previous to the Raja foul?

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Kobe should have been suspended a game for trying to escalate a fight when he pushed Boris and Snush into Thomas and caused that dogpile....

 

[Dback Jon]

Raja, Kobe and Walton should all be suspended.....

 

[tobiazz]

Raja, Kobe and Walton should all be suspended.....

...and Kwame Brown. Or maybe just arrested, haha.

 

[jlove]

It's freakin hilarious to see the media and fans call for a suspension of Raja Bell in this situation, in this series, and in the playoffs this year. There have been numerous instances of inconsitantly called flagrant fouls, then very inconsistant league action on things that happen on the court.

A few examples:

Ron Artest --> Takes an intentional elbow to the mouth from Ginobili without a call at all, then retaliates in the 3rd quarter and gets toosed from the game and suspended for the next game. (WARRANTED)

Udonis Haslim --> Gets called for a personal foul under the basket, and in frustration takes his mouth piece out and throws it in the direction of the official. He gets tossed from the game and subsequently gets a one game suspension. (BIG TIME OVER-REACTION FROM THE LEAGUE)

James Posey --> Tosses Kirk Hinrich to the floor in the 4th quarter and gets ejected from the game. Then comes the one game suspension. (A BIT OF OVER-REACTION FROM THE LEAGUE)

There were a few examples of league mandated one game suspensions handed out so far in the playoffs. Now lets go to the Suns Vs Lakers playoff series all in itself.

Kobe Bryant --> Game 2, twice, once in the second, once in the third quarter, throws elbows at Raja Bell head, with no calls from the officials, and no league office action.

Kobe Bryant --> Also game 2, small scuffle between teams, jumps in and shoves Steve Nash and gets in his face yelling. Yet again, no action from the game officials or from the league offices.

Luke Walton --> Game 3, grabs Tim Thomas, ABOVE THE SHOULDERS, and throws him down (luckily no injury to Thomas). Officials call a Flagrant Fouls, he stays in the game. League Offices upgrade the flagrant to a 2. NO SUSPENSION!!!!

Kobe Bryant --> Game 3, following the Luke Walton fiasco, yet again jumps in and shoves Nash and yells in hi s face. No action from the Officials or the League Officials.

Kwame Brown --> Game 3, throws an elbow to the chest of Boris Diaw, knocking Boris on his back, then making things worse, stradling over Boris and yelling profanities at him. Officials call a TECHNICAL FOUL. Again NO ACTION FROM THE LEAGUE OFFICES!!!!!

Kobe Bryant --> Game 3, following the Kwame and Boris actions, Nash runs over to get Boris up off the floor, Kobe jumps in and shoves Nash yet again, yelling at him. Officials push Kobe more than 10 feet away from Nash, yet Kobe gets away from the official and runs back in to Nash's face. NO ACTION FROM OFFICIALS OR LEAGUE OFFICES!!!!!

Kobe Bryant --> Game 5, twice threw elbow at Raja Bells head, connecting once with no action from the officials.

Raja Bell --> Game 5, grabs Kobe around the shoulders and leads him to the floor. Officials assest a Flagrant Foul.


Ok now, we aren't going to go into all the no-calls, incorrect calls, and completely missed calls that have gone on in this series. Just with what has been extra carricular, should Raja be suspended. If it wasn't for what has gone on in this series with virtually no action of suspension in this series so far, I wouldn't expect it. That's exactly what Nash said in the post game interview when asked as well.

Like Laker fans were saying after all the other actions towards Suns players from Lakers in this series before........QUIT CRYING PEOPLE!!!!

 

[mribnik]

So, you are saying that if Kobe had done the exact same thing to Raja, you wouldn't be calling for his head?

Seriously?

Come on dude...take off the myopia shades and get with the real world. That crap is uncalled for.

Raja's going to taste his own medicine, and it tastes like Phoenix weather on a Thursday night...and maybe more.

If Kobe had done the exact same thing to Raja, of course we would. In that case, we'd have the hard foul from Walton, the hard foul and taunting of Kwame and a hard foul from Kobe. If neither of those 3 earned a suspension I'd be upset. I think everybody thinks Raja should be suspended based on that play alone, but relative to the physical play in the series, it doesn't seem fair.