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Exactly. It find it funny. Everyone was praising the Cowboys when they won in Buffalo despite being awful last year, because they were able to win despite having an off game.
Colin Cowherd rips the Cards
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Exactly. It find it funny. Everyone was praising the Cowboys when they won in Buffalo despite being awful last year, because they were able to win despite having an off game.
moklerman
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It's kind of surprising that Cardinals fans are surprised. The Cardinals are perfectly capable of blowing out a bad team(Rams) but with SF, Whis plays it close and conservative. I don't recall any trickery on MNF and I think there just must be a matchup problem vs. SF. It's ALWAYS close the last couple of years. If the media had done their homework I think somone would have come up with a much better analysis of what I'm talking about.
Like someone upthread mentioned, close wins will benefit this team in the present and the future. It will not let them stroll into Seattle like the ****-of-the-walk and it will further teach them to not panick if/when they are down by 10 points.
Let the nation scoff. Flying under the radar with "same old Cardinals" ringing in their ears is a much better place to be anyway.
Like someone upthread mentioned, close wins will benefit this team in the present and the future. It will not let them stroll into Seattle like the ****-of-the-walk and it will further teach them to not panick if/when they are down by 10 points.
Let the nation scoff. Flying under the radar with "same old Cardinals" ringing in their ears is a much better place to be anyway.
A win is a win and I will take that. That is the most important thing. However, I would by lying if I said I didn't think the Cards blew a huge opportunity for some national respect. It's a blown opportunity but NOT the usual blown opportunity we are used to seeing. I will take that.
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Hey en fuego, you know that's something Colin Cowherd harps on all the time.
If the Cards want more respect they need to start putting teams away in the 4th quarter. We lost all the credit we earned from destroying Buffalo when we blew the 10 point lead with 3:17 left against Dallas. Then the Cards proceeded to expand on that by letting the 4and9ers drive to our 2 after starting with only 1:06 left.
Until the Cards can do that they'll always be the team that blew a 16 point lead in the 4th to the 2-14 4and9ers. That blew a 23-3 lead to the Bears and fumbled away Denny Green's job against the Rams
moklerman
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Media admiration or team focus and motivation? I think the close scare was a great thing for the Cardinals. They aren't a dominant team and need to keep improving. That MNF game gives everyone involved a nice reality check about resting on their laurels.
Regardless we're winning games the way we used to lose them.
If it were anyone but the Cardinals the national media would be asking if Arizona were a "team of destiny".
If a 5'10" 170lb kid can win the Cy Young the Cards can win......
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a) it was a road game and b) I don't remember anyone praising them. I do remember a lot of talk from the media about how the Boys shouldn't have even been down that much if they're a real contender and ON HIS BOARD about how Romo's turnover problems in that game might lead to a string of games like that.
have a little perspective people.
if that was the 49ers last night, at 5-3, on top of the division and they played, I don't know... the 2003 Arizona Cardinals and they barely beat us because we completely fell apart at the end of the game (like that 2003 team probably would have), are you telling me this entire board wouldn't be saying the 49ers are over-rated?
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the other thing about this is we didn't necessarily have an "off game". Warner threw for his usual 300 and 3 TD, we won the turnover battle 3-0 and scored our average amount of points. The problem was that the Niners were able to play with us at all, especially considering that offensively we weren't that off and defensively, we got 3 turnovers and only allowed 17 points as opposed to the Cowboys who had 5 turnovers and didn't score a TD until a minutes left... and still, no one praised them.
again, perspective guys.
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Where was he last year, when the undefeated Pats barely beat the 4-7 Ravens
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29386&season=2007&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&week=REG13
lobo
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I don't pay any attention to these "experts. I know more about the game than they do. How about some comments about some of very impressive losses over the years?
I listened to most of that rant. While it was an unimpressive win, it was a win, and a very entertaining game! The stops at the end was unbelievable (and part luck)!
We are Cards fans... we'll take a win if we can get it... I ain't complainin'!
We are Cards fans... we'll take a win if we can get it... I ain't complainin'!
And if the Cards would have won by twenty (which they were a couple poorly timed penalties away from), they would hace gotten serious respect?
'Nice win, but it was just the 49ers' would have been the message. If they beat the Giants at home or the Eagles on Thanksgiving, you'll hear a different tune. Until then, just take the wins and move closer to a higher seed and ignore the criticts.
Or you can stress out over what some guy named Cowherd thinks.
'Nice win, but it was just the 49ers' would have been the message. If they beat the Giants at home or the Eagles on Thanksgiving, you'll hear a different tune. Until then, just take the wins and move closer to a higher seed and ignore the criticts.
Or you can stress out over what some guy named Cowherd thinks.
Krangodnzr
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My take:
The 49ers are a divisional opponent
Divisional opponents have more insight into how each other play.
The 49ers matchup very well with us. Look at how well Clements played? Justin Smith also was very disruptive and they're defense has some speed which is well suited to stopping our slow developing running game. And our corners get very little support from our safeties, so an offense CAN victimize our corners pretty regularly.
We made some mistakes, and nearly paid for them, but still pulled out a win.
And we DON'T play the 9ers again this year! So we escaped our annual scare from them. Just my 2 cents.
The 49ers are a divisional opponent
Divisional opponents have more insight into how each other play.
The 49ers matchup very well with us. Look at how well Clements played? Justin Smith also was very disruptive and they're defense has some speed which is well suited to stopping our slow developing running game. And our corners get very little support from our safeties, so an offense CAN victimize our corners pretty regularly.
We made some mistakes, and nearly paid for them, but still pulled out a win.
And we DON'T play the 9ers again this year! So we escaped our annual scare from them. Just my 2 cents.
CardShark
DEAL WITH IT!
To drive home that point;
First road game against these same 49er's, the Cards dominate, "Well it's the 49er's"
Home against Miami, the Cards embarass the Dolphins. "Well it was just Miami" Hasn't Miami been the darling of the sports world since then?
Second road game against the much heralded Redskins in the mighty NFC East
the Cards play it tight and have a chance to win it but elect to punt. It was all about how good the Redskins are.
Third road game the Cards get blown out by way of turnovers in second quarter. They come back in second half to challenge for the win and all that could be focused on was the second quarter.
Back home to take on the undefeated Bills. Cards win handily. Well it was only because Edwards was knocked out in the first series.
Cards host one loss Dallas. Cowpies make a couple of big plays to get them back in the game and force OT. Cards win it quickly and at first it's a big win but then it transcends into what's wrong with the Cowpies?
Cards go on the road and take on the Panthers and the talk is automatically setup that if the Cards win it was because they played the bad Panthers, if they lose it was because the real Panthers showed up.
Cards win on the road in St. Louis and they actually get respect.
Cards at home against a rejuvenated 49er's team playing with a sense of urgency and they start off flat. The media is ready to bury them, even though they came out with a win unlike the Giants who lost to the Browns.
Bottom line is "Damned if thet do, Damned if they don't!"
Which was rather ironic, being the closest thing to a home game any team has on the road. Considering the fact that the Cards played there for a few decades prior to moving to the desert and that our star player was a former MVP of theirs who took them to 2 SBs.
The fact is, the only games the Cards have lost (all on the east coast) were ones where they had a negative turnover ratio. If they can...
A) Not give the ball away.
B) Not make stupid penalties that end up giving points away and
C) Not miss tackles
They can and will beat any team in the NFL. Period.
And yes, Giants (not to look ahead), that means you.
Who cares what anyone at espn thinks???? Anyone thinking we were going to blow out the 49ers, does not know much about this team, or watched any cards/49ers games over the last 3 years.
The 49ers were coming of a bye with a new,fired up coach. We got what I knew we were going to get........A good division game.
who cares if you win by 1 or 50, It all looks the same at the end of the year. Go Cards!!!!!!!!
The 49ers were coming of a bye with a new,fired up coach. We got what I knew we were going to get........A good division game.
who cares if you win by 1 or 50, It all looks the same at the end of the year. Go Cards!!!!!!!!
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they come back to challenge for the win? The closest they ever got was down two touchdowns. That's not challenging for the win. And of course all that got talked about was the 2nd quarter. When teams set records, that's usually the story of the game, not that they didn't roll over and die.
right, so we got credit for the big win for us and then people started scrutinizing the second part of the story (which was bigger going into the game to begin with). What did you expect? For the NFL to crown us at that point? We're still the team with something to prove.
"ready to bury them"? Just because the media is still saying they don't buy us YET doesn't mean we're dead. Again, we're the team with something to prove and we proved very little on Monday Night unfortunately and to be honest, there wasn't much we could have done to prove anything on Monday Night. This team won't get credit until they win some playoff games. That's the bottom line. Hell, you yourself weren't even giving the Giants credit this season even though they were the Super Bowl champs and again you bring them up for some reason.
Winning playoff games, sustained success year after year is what gives you respect. Not one half of a season after years of horrificness guys... and even when you're winning, the media is STILL gonna get on you, just like they got on the Cowboys after winning against Cincy, or just like the media treated the Giants after they won the freaking Super Bowl, etc. etc.
It's damned if you do, damned if you don't for every team folks.
Bottom line is "Damned if thet do, Damned if they don't!"[/QUOTE]
I'd like to suggest a moratorium on any thread on the subject of the cards being "disrespected."
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I am with ya
If this were college, there would be consequences of not getting respect for the team
in the NFL, there are none
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man, that hit the nail on the head.
