I turned the game off with the score Bucs 35, Colts 14 in the fourth quarter. An hour later I'm surfing channels in time to see the Colts win it in overtime. What did I miss?
DOH!!!
DOH!!!
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One of the best comebacks in NFL history,. Down 35-14 with 4 minutes left, Indy wins in OT...great game!
Chaz
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No team has ever come back to win after trailing by 21+ with <4:00 to go.
Bad call at the end but really the Bucs lost this game in the 4th qtr.
Bad call at the end but really the Bucs lost this game in the 4th qtr.
OP
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I turned it after Barbers INT, I thought that was the nail in the coffin.
Just goes to show it ain't over til it's over.
I wish I had seen it.
Just goes to show it ain't over til it's over.
I wish I had seen it.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
The Bucs and specifically Simeon Rice got completely screwed at the end of that game.
Chaz
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I disagree. If Rice had jumped on or into his own player the call was correct. From the replay his own player was blocked into him.
A bad call IMO, but far from the only reason they lost the game.
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I listened to the game on the radio. Boomer said you can't climb on the back of a teammate to block a kick, and you can no longer take a running start to block a kick which is what Rice did.
Boomer was saying the penalty on the O-lineman Walker before the 2 minute warning was the penalty that really hurt the Bucs.
Chaz
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Rice jumped straight up in the air.
No offense to Boomer we all know how bright he is.
Yea, do they stop the clock on a penalty? I thought they started the game clock again with the play clock after the call is made.
Does anyone know the rule?
They called a penalty with 2:04 on the clock. They did not start the clock until the next play started. At the end of that play the called the 2 min warning. Basically the Colts had no TO and got two 2 min warnings.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Boomer was wrong. Salisbury just broke down the rule. Nothing against running and jumping. Under the strictest sense of the rule, the refs could almost claim they were technically correct...I say almost, because Rice didn't 'land' on another player after a leap...he simply 'landed' after his own team mate had been blocked underneath him. Huge difference.
Complete crock of s*^t call, but I also agree with what Gruden said...if they hadn't screwed up so badly in the 4th, this call would never have happened.
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Obviously I didn't see the play, but Boomer made it sound like Rice took 4 steps as he was counting them on the replay. I have no idea because I didn't watch the game. I'm almost positive taking a running start is no longer legal. I don't know why they outlawed it. There use to be a few guys in the early 80's who would sometimes take a running start and fly up in the air to block it. I think Kellin Winslow use to do it, and I know of a former Packer who use to do it, but now I'm pretty sure it's not legal for some reason. I think Salisbury might be wrong. I'll have to do some digging to see what I can find, but I'm pretty sure you can no longer take a running start. Whatever the answer is, at least one of these football analysts is wrong. You'd think they'd do their homework more.
I'm not a big Boomer fan either, but that's all I had to go on tonight.
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I missed it, Darn!!! My sattelite tv doesn't allow me to see that game I get NFL ticket but I can't see it!
I get NFL ticket but I can't see it! 
HookemCards
Have at you!!!!!
Yeah I thought the call was bad too. I don't care how its stated in the rule book, it happens on every FG attempt. The officials opened themselves up for criticism by calling it on MNF in that situation. Rice took 4 steps, jumped up in the air, came almost all the way down and fell onto a guy being blocked back into him.
Another thing about the game. If I had started Manning I would have beat Arthur, but I figured with him going against the Bucs and Hasselback going against GB, Hasselback would get alot more points. Oh well, live and learn.
Another thing about the game. If I had started Manning I would have beat Arthur, but I figured with him going against the Bucs and Hasselback going against GB, Hasselback would get alot more points. Oh well, live and learn.
I went to bed early, too, thinking the game was over. I needed the Colts to win straight up to win our family pool this week.
Turned on ESPN this morning before work, just in case. Could not believe it. I am totally kicking myself for not having more energy and staying up for the whole game. WOW!
Turned on ESPN this morning before work, just in case. Could not believe it. I am totally kicking myself for not having more energy and staying up for the whole game. WOW!
arthurracoon
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The play on Si-ME-on was technically correct - Rice took more than one step, and landed on another player. That is a personal foul. Whether you think the rule is a good one is another thing, but the ref made the right call.
Thank god for Peyton - I needed 25 points out of him and Pollard - didn't think I would get it, but I did!!
Thank god for Peyton - I needed 25 points out of him and Pollard - didn't think I would get it, but I did!!
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The rule they showed on ESPN today said that it had to be used to aid in blocking the kick. The intent is clearly using a player's back to catapult you. Rice landed on a guy being blocked underneath him, very tough call.
What about the roughing the kicker call on Tupa when Rhodes is lying on the turf and Tupa stumbled into him, falls over him, and they call roughing?
there were some horrible calls last night, I can't believe Tampa blew that lead but I can't believe the call on Rice at the end either.
Billy Flynt
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Originally posted by SirChaz
Rice jumped straight up in the air.
No offense to Boomer we all know how bright he is.
Yea, do they stop the clock on a penalty? I thought they started the game clock again with the play clock after the call is made.
Does anyone know the rule?
They called a penalty with 2:04 on the clock. They did not start the clock until the next play started. At the end of that play the called the 2 min warning. Basically the Colts had no TO and got two 2 min warnings.
On a personal foul with less than 5 minutes in a quarter the clock is not restarted. It was a bit confusing b/c originally, Greer said two min warning and then when they came back from commercial it was 2:04.
The call on Simeon was correct by the rule book. During a kick attempt, a defensive player may not take more than one step and leap and land on his own player. Now of course when he landed, he was on his way down- but this call was technically correct.
With or without that call- the Bucs deserved to lose that game! They blew the 21 point lead with less than 4 minutes left. Shame on them.
Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Exactly, Russ. The rule, as shown on ESPN, showed NOTHING about running up to the LOS. I don't have time to research it, so unless someone finds an NFL rule that says otherwise, there's no rule against running up to the LOS to block a kick.
Also, the rule, as shown on ESPN, said it did have to be used to aid the block, and since Rice jumped and actually had a guy blocked underneath him, the call was terrible.
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Not so fast this is the same ESPN that hired Limbaugh, for all we know they're just showing the wrong rule. I think eventually the truth will come out but to me it's a tough call if part of the rule is landing on a player because that player was blocked under him. If the whole penalty is running and jumping, he did do that.
I can't believe I had a 3 point lead in my fantasy league, Tampa's defense against Keyshawn, and won with them giving up 38 points. Guess that Defensive TD was the key for me.
4-1 so far in first place and now I can play Shipp.
Rivercard
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By the sound of the rule it seems like the proper call. The rule just says "landing on a player" - that would include players being blocked into you. But Walker's PF at 2:04 was the real killer penalty. And how about the winning field goal hitting the uprights and going in! Unbelievable.
Simeon reacted as if he thought there may be a penalty called, in fact, watching it it seemed as though he half expected to see the flag as he turned around.
Besides, it was a make up call for the equally as bad running into the kicker earlier on the Colts.
Besides, it was a make up call for the equally as bad running into the kicker earlier on the Colts.
Chaz
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Will be interested to see if the league says anything about it this week.
To me it is similar the punt reception interference. If a player is blocked into the PR there is no penalty.
Rice may have stepped up to the line but it wasn't really a running jump. He lept straight up in the air, he came straight back down, and he never crossed the LOS.
Oh well, It is not like a am crying for the Buc's or Simeon this morning.
To me it is similar the punt reception interference. If a player is blocked into the PR there is no penalty.
Rice may have stepped up to the line but it wasn't really a running jump. He lept straight up in the air, he came straight back down, and he never crossed the LOS.
Oh well, It is not like a am crying for the Buc's or Simeon this morning.
