Could Nash win another MVP this season?

[AzStevenCal]

When you say that Nash would have to lead this team to the finals for him to be in the MVP conversation, what do you mean? I'm trying to reconcile this argument without throwing out the fact that MVP voting is held a month and a half before the Finals. In the last 7 years, the MVP has only led his team to the Finals one time - and even then, that team (the Lakers) lost to the Celtics.

My bad, I left out a word. I meant to say that "I can, however, think of a scenario that gets him the award THE next year". IOW, if he were to have an obvious MVP type season that culminated in us making it to the finals that it would do away with the overrated label that has followed him these past few years. It wouldn't help him this season but it would give him a chance the following year.

I could understand you saying the chance of gas dropping to 30 cents/gallon is higher than Nash winning MVP, but you believe that if Nash ends up actually deserving the award that there is a zero percent chance of him winning the award. I think Karl Malone won the award in 1996-97 even though MJ was probably more deserving, but other than that, I don't see an instance where you could put any deliberate consideration into this argument and still arrive at this conclusion.

Barkley also won it in a year that if it stood solely by itself would have seen MJ win it. But that has nothing to do with my point. Since Nash won it the second time there has been a lot of talk about him having not deserved the award. MUCH MORE than has ever occurred with any other MVP winner in my lifetime. You must have heard the oft repeated comments about him being the only MVP to have never played in the finals. Or how about the one about him having played in the most playoff games without making it to the finals.

These are not so veiled shots at Nash and are often used to justify the claim that he would not have won it if he weren't white. Whether that's true has little bearing on the scrutiny the voters would be under if they were to name him MVP a 3rd time without overwhelming evidence that it was justified. And, again, I don't believe that can happen without him first making it to the finals.

All of this is moot however, as I don't believe Nash has it in him to play at that level for a full season. Especially since he's likely to be double teamed frequently in addition to the physical play that always wears him down. He'll get his assists although perhaps not like last year. Actually, I think all his numbers will go down a bit except wins, which will go down considerably.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

Chap, Nash can't take a team that is bad to mediocre and make it a great team. He can take a midocre team and make them good or even take a good team and make them great. However, mediocre to bad...... to great? That proves what a pipe dream him getting the MVP really is.

Um, he's already DONE it! Remember the year that Amare was out because of microfracture?

And you are way too absorbed in semantics, that's for sure. Then again, just about everyone on this site is too absorbed in semantics.

 

[mojorizen7]

Nash is 37 and surrounded by small forwards and Lopez.
He's not going to win the MVP.
That dude in Sacramento has a better chance of winning the MVP......and he ain't winning it either.

Nash may flirt with a few votes....but the recipe just isn't here anymore fellas.

 

[Covert Rain]

Um, he's already DONE it! Remember the year that Amare was out because of microfracture?

And you are way too absorbed in semantics, that's for sure. Then again, just about everyone on this site is too absorbed in semantics.

Yes I remember and that was not a bad team. Also, comparing a bad team to a good team is not semantics. There is a huge difference between Nash taking bad team and making it great to him taking a good team and making it great.

 

[BC867]

There is a huge difference between Nash taking bad team and making it great to him taking a good team and making it great.

in my mind, that pre-supposes a well-rounded team.

A team with one Center and no Power Forwards is dysfunctional.

Unless we hire an addition Coach in charge of cloning, non-competitive will remain the norm.