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I thought any news on wether the Coyotes are staying or leaving could be posted here.

Thought I would start with some positive news, this from Todd Walsh's twitter:

walshtodd Todd Walsh
Dave Tippett "my gut feeling is that we are staying here. There is great upside here."
7 hours ago
 

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I want as much as anyone for the Yotes to stay. Moving them back to Whinneypeg is a waste. They failed there once and give them 5yrs and they'll be in the same boat. A new arena doesn't equal continued success.

BUT, should they pack up how about this option....

The NHL shouldn't want to lose the 12/13th TV market in the nation, not to mention the regional rivalries (CA, CO, TX). So if push comes to shove, how about Glendale- Phx-AZ keep the Coyotes name and records (similar to Seattle losing the Sonics). Then See if Hulsizer will buy the Thrashers, rename them and move them here?

Just food for thought...
 
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There are rumors that Jerry Colangelo could be getting involved.
 

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There are rumors that Jerry Colangelo could be getting involved.

Nothing but good could come of that. :thumbup:

I read the other day that things are looking slightly better. That all sides are starting to talk again. Hope so. This is really ridiculous. The Goldwater Institute could have gone up against a number of projects in AZ; still, they choose to harp on this one. I just don't understand.
 

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I didn't realize Winnipeg's metro was only about 700k. I was also listening to an analyst's view that behind the scenes, Calgary and Edmonton are probably not in favor of relocation to Winnipeg because it would take a slice out of their broadcast revenue and merchandise sales (though I imagine the latter isn't huge).

I think that Winnipeg *should* get a team back, along with Quebec City and Hartford. And I honestly do not blame them for eagerly pouncing on any sign of the Coyotes' demise in Glendale. But it's just really hard for me to imagine Bettman going along with it, if only because it would look like admitting a mistake.

The worst situation would be if Winnipeg ended up just being a holding pattern for the team, and it ended up somewhere else anyway.
 

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Actually, the Jets had great support in Winnipeg. They were just poorly managed but in today's NHL where there is a salary cap, a team in Winnipeg could thrive. Now, whether or not the Yotes return, I don't think it will happen.
 

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There are rumors that Jerry Colangelo could be getting involved.

Got a link? Or is this just something you heard?

It would make some sense, with Jerry being so invested in the Wig Wam Resort on the West side and trying to bring USA Basketball to Glendale, he's been doing a lot more in the West Valley lately.

I'd love to see him help save the 'Yotes as well as get involved in the Fiesta Bowl mess & clean that up.
 
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Colangelo is not a wealthy man. He's worth less than $10 mil. He never owned more than 1 percent of any team of which he was managing partner. He was always the guy with rich friends fronting the store.
 

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Is Winnipegs plan to put a NHL team in the MTS Centre? It looks like a gorgeous minor league facility, but it has a capacity of only 15K for hockey. Sure Winnipeg is a smaller town for big league sports, but is that a big enough venue for the NHL? Seems about 2-3K short.
 

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That's always been an interesting question to me. Yes, the capacity of the MTS Centre is just over 15k. So sold out every night, it would still land them in the bottom third of average attendance. But my unscientific opinion is that a lot of arenas and stadiums are actually a bit to big: perpetual sellouts and a tough ticket are good for demand, good PR, and a good experience for the fans in attendance--making them want to go back or consider season tickets. A few years ago when the Habs were missing the playoffs, the arena was not always selling out--and even though the average attendance was still higher than the capacity in almost every other NHL arena, it was reported as a negative and fueled the (clearly ridiculous) notion that Toronto was the only untouchable Canadian franchise at the time.

That kind of thing is poisonous, and I think a sold-out 15k in Winnipeg is better than averaging 13k in Atlanta, for example, even if the potential for a bigger crowd is present for the Thrashers. I'm sure a "ceiling" is viewed much more negatively by an investor and the league, but I also think they are making projections based on crowds that aren't there. I think if the casual fan can't get an easy ticket to the game, they are MORE likely to watch it on TV and increase the franchise's ratings. If they can go anytime they want, neither the live or televised event seems like a must-watch.

Anyway, I grew up in Phoenix so I'm rooting for the Thrashers to move instead of the Coyotes...
 

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Surprised that this hasn't been mentioned yet. Looks like there's going to be another year of this saga before it's figured out.

http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=562190

The National Hockey League and the City of Glendale are expected to enter into another one-year interim agreement to work together on securing ownership for the Coyotes to keep the team in Glendale.

The Glendale City Council will vote on the action at its next meeting on Tuesday (May 10) that will keep the team playing at Jobing.com Arena for the 2011-12 season.
 
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Council votes in favor of the Coyotes. There will be hockey in Arizona next year. Now let's hope the Hulsizer deal gets done soon.
 

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Amazing how it's all playing out with Phoenix staying and Atlanta (possibly) going. The difference seems to be that Glendale built the NHL an arena, whereas the potential new owners of Philips Arena and the Hawks don't want the Thrashers. If the Coyotes played at US Airways and a new owner was buying the Suns and the building, this story might have been over long before.
 

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